Barber Starter?

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I am not a anti JJ guy, in fact I like him alot. However this team needs a fire lit under it and Marion Barber can help supply it.
Not saying to bench Julius, but I think allowing MB3 to come out rolling over people in the first quarter would help set the tone and give this team a much needed boost. You can rotate the two after the first quarter.
Jones is a nice back, he can have moments of brilliance, but he seems to go down way to easily and plays with little fire. It's that kind of passive culture which needs to be changed in my humble opinion.

Other changes I would contemplate:

Starting Burnett or at least giving him much more PT.

Allowing Watkins back on the field especially in the red zone. He seems to be much more comfortable closer to the endzone and his height would help.

Start Jay Ratliff in place of Canty
 

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Where would you start Burnett? Has he really showed enough to be a starter? I haven't really seen that much from him.
 

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I say Give JJ the first half and Marion the second half...If JJ isnt doing anything in the first then switch'm. And vise versa.
 

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they have both played well and I am happy with the current setup. though I am all for trading JuJo at season's end.
 

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This is nothing more than an attempt to find a solution for something that isn't broken.
 

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Yup, start all these new players and kill everything that is related to team chemistry.

Putting in new starters would make everything even worse. Try to keep some continuity and good results will follow. Wholesale changes never help and I know this first hand being a Commanders fan.
 

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Only if JJ is hurt.

JJ is on pace to get ~1375yards with YPC of 4+ yards. Why would you want to bench him?
 

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The 3 yard runs from Jones have got to go. I agree, Barber definitely needs more playing time.

I think the main problem we have at safety is Roy Williams, so I don't know how Pat Watkins would change things unless Roy is benched, which I think he should be for a half or so. That crap has got to stop.
 

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joseephuss;1149923 said:
Where would you start Burnett? Has he really showed enough to be a starter? I haven't really seen that much from him.

Hmmm...starter might have been premature, meant more PT.

The reason I want Barber to start is because the Boys have been getting flamed in the first quarter lately.
 

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MarkBrunell;1149930 said:
Yup, start all these new players and kill everything that is related to team chemistry.

Putting in new starters would make everything even worse. Try to keep some continuity and good results will follow. Wholesale changes never help and I know this first hand being a Commanders fan.

This team is 4-4?? What chemistry?
 

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Oh_Canada;1149918 said:
I am not a anti JJ guy, in fact I like him alot. However this team needs a fire lit under it and Marion Barber can help supply it.
Not saying to bench Julius, but I think allowing MB3 to come out rolling over people in the first quarter would help set the tone and give this team a much needed boost. You can rotate the two after the first quarter.
Jones is a nice back, he can have moments of brilliance, but he seems to go down way to easily and plays with little fire. It's that kind of passive culture which needs to be changed in my humble opinion.

Other changes I would contemplate:

Starting Burnett or at least giving him much more PT.

Allowing Watkins back on the field especially in the red zone. He seems to be much more comfortable closer to the endzone and his height would help.

Start Jay Ratliff in place of Canty
Wow, I disagree with pretty much everything you posted.
 

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SBChamps;1149932 said:
Only if JJ is hurt.

JJ is on pace to get ~1375yards with YPC of 4+ yards. Why would you want to bench him?

Not benching....just want to see if the team would respond better out of the gate with that bowling ball of knives running in the first quarter instead of JJ. He would still get 12-15 carries a game.

Shall I remind everyone what the accumlative scores in the first quarter over the past five games has been??

Try 41-7.
 

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Maddenites unite!

I'm not sure many of guys can discern Madden football from the real thing. :bang2:
 

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I love me some MBIII, but I'm not sure that fire can hold up for 4 quarters. Julius is focusing on the next play after a run because he knows he's staying on the field. Barber knows he has fewer chances, so he's a little more enthusiastic and a little fresher from resting on the bench. Not to take anything away from Barber, but the only way to know how he do as the starter would be if he actually started for a long period of time. He did look good when Julius was injured last year, but not really specatacular when he was in the starting role. He seems to excel off the bench and there is nothing wrong with that. As far as Julius being a boring runner (someone said it on another post), I don't know what Julius they're talking about. I enjoy watching JuJo run. And his cute little touchdown wiggle is a nice touch.
 

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Oh_Canada;1149918 said:
I am not a anti JJ guy, in fact I like him alot. However this team needs a fire lit under it and Marion Barber can help supply it.
Not saying to bench Julius, but I think allowing MB3 to come out rolling over people in the first quarter would help set the tone and give this team a much needed boost. You can rotate the two after the first quarter.
Jones is a nice back, he can have moments of brilliance, but he seems to go down way to easily and plays with little fire. It's that kind of passive culture which needs to be changed in my humble opinion.

Other changes I would contemplate:

Starting Burnett or at least giving him much more PT.

Allowing Watkins back on the field especially in the red zone. He seems to be much more comfortable closer to the endzone and his height would help.

Start Jay Ratliff in place of Canty

I really don't think a lack of fire is what is troubling this team ... mistakes are. The running game isn't one of the things that needs fixing with this football team so I say don't fool with it. I'm not against Barber getting some more opportunities though because I really like him as I do JJ. Depth across the board was supposed to be one of the real strengths of this team and I don't think it has been utilized as well as I would have liked. Depth unused is a wasted commodity.
 

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Oh_Canada;1149939 said:
This team is 4-4?? What chemistry?

If you want a run from this team, then keeping in the starters now would be the only way possible.

You guys should consider this a new season with Romo and think your 1-1 and need 5 more wins for the playoffs.

Atleast im considering it a new season for Washington after the bye since our defense which has been our bread and butter for the past 2 years is finally back and according to me we are 1-0 and can only afford to lose 1 more game.

Keep in the guys who are starting now and don't shake up the team confidence. 4-4 is not that. The NFC is dead close this year. Even 3-5 Washington has hope.
 

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Oh_Canada;1149918 said:
I am not a anti JJ guy, in fact I like him alot. However this team needs a fire lit under it and Marion Barber can help supply it.
Not saying to bench Julius, but I think allowing MB3 to come out rolling over people in the first quarter would help set the tone and give this team a much needed boost. You can rotate the two after the first quarter.
Jones is a nice back, he can have moments of brilliance, but he seems to go down way to easily and plays with little fire. It's that kind of passive culture which needs to be changed in my humble opinion.

Other changes I would contemplate:

Starting Burnett or at least giving him much more PT.

Allowing Watkins back on the field especially in the red zone. He seems to be much more comfortable closer to the endzone and his height would help.

Start Jay Ratliff in place of Canty

He might be a quality starter but his punishing running style might limit his durability. He takes quite a few direct hits.
 

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Boyzmamacita;1149946 said:
I love me some MBIII, but I'm not sure that fire can hold up for 4 quarters. Julius is focusing on the next play after a run because he knows he's staying on the field. Barber knows he has fewer chances, so he's a little more enthusiastic and a little fresher from resting on the bench. Not to take anything away from Barber, but the only way to know how he do as the starter would be if he actually started for a long period of time. He did look good when Julius was injured last year, but not really specatacular when he was in the starting role. He seems to excel off the bench and there is nothing wrong with that. As far as Julius being a boring runner (someone said it on another post), I don't know what Julius they're talking about. I enjoy watching JuJo run. And his cute little touchdown wiggle is a nice touch.

Nothing is really going to chage....JJ will still get alot of carries.

I don't expect it to happen since football people are loathe to think outside the box....but I think starting Marion would inject some life out of the gate.

This team is getting pummeled in the first quarter.
 

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I like the role both Jones and Barber have right now. I would not mind seeing Barber get more oppertunities in a game when he looks to have the hot hand but I would rather keep the rotation as is
 

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Oh_Canada;1149918 said:
I am not a anti JJ guy, in fact I like him alot. However this team needs a fire lit under it and Marion Barber can help supply it.
Not saying to bench Julius, but I think allowing MB3 to come out rolling over people in the first quarter would help set the tone and give this team a much needed boost. You can rotate the two after the first quarter.
Jones is a nice back, he can have moments of brilliance, but he seems to go down way to easily and plays with little fire. It's that kind of passive culture which needs to be changed in my humble opinion.

Other changes I would contemplate:

Starting Burnett or at least giving him much more PT.

Allowing Watkins back on the field especially in the red zone. He seems to be much more comfortable closer to the endzone and his height would help.

Start Jay Ratliff in place of Canty
I was just thinking the same thing about MBIII. I said Juluis, well I have always said Julius will get u 3 or 50 yards, mainly 3 or 4 everydown, but on short Yardage he plain old suck :bang2: I think if u start MBIII the defense would have to respect his pass catching ability, stopping teams from going blitz happy all the time.

What would be wrong if we started MBIII and brought a fresher JJ in after Barber wears them down alittle, plus JJ can still get 15 carries a game...

No one is saying JJ is the problem, but I think Barber is better plain and simple. He runs hards, block and can catch.
 
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