Barrett Jones in the 2nd Round

[supercowboy8]

I would be happy with Jones, can play three positions in the nfl and start day one but im concerned about his foot injury.

I like schwenke better.

 

[Doomsday101]

I'd definitely go DL over OG in the first. If one of the OTs happens to fall, I think that makes even more sense since there's a decent drop off in OT talent after the first round.

I wouldn't look at S, personally, until at least the third. But we definitely need to add one in the 3rd or 4th.

It'd be nice to get/stay ahead of the game on the DL, for once. And we need to add two OLs in a combination of FA and the first two rounds of the draft, somehow if we can.

I don't know how the draft will fall and really that to me is what it comes down to. Who is still on the board when the Cowboys pick. We have some areas of need and out of DT,OL and Safety I'm pretty positive that there will be a player the Cowboys will have graded out as the BPA who will fill one of those needs. I'm not opposed to taking any of those positions of need but I think you better get the best player you can.

 

[Idgit]

I'm sure teams will look at any and all medical concerns. If they feel it will be an issue your right he will slide, however if the reports they get is a full recovery then I think he could go late 1st rd to early 2nd.

He's got that level of talent, no doubt.

 

[9darter]

Some people think value is important. Finding guys that will play well is what is REALLY important. So what if you pick a guy that is in the lower half of the round in ratings and you are grabbing him in the middle. SO WHAT if you have done your homework right you get a PLAYER.

So what? You can't make a choice (value judgement) between scarce resources without basing it on value. Hence value is always the most important thing. There is no way going into a draft "just picking a player/position".

 

[TheSport78]

Barrett Jones will not make it out of the first round. If by any chance he does, he will be the selected inthe first 5 picks of the second round tops.

The kid has played every position onthe offensive line since he's been at Alabama and has played it well. The kid does whatever it takes to help his team get better and doesn't have the "me" attitude that comes with elite players.

Would love to get Barrett but its wishful thinking being a Cowboys fan.

:laugh2:

 

[kirkjrk]

I'm really starting to think if we go Cooper or Warmack in the 1st Round I honestly wouldn't mind filling our Center spot for years to come sith Barrett Jones in the 2nd Round.


Bryan Broaddus Update @ Alabama Pro Day

What They Said: In talking with the Alabama coaches, they couldn’t say enough outstanding things about Barrett Jones and what he could bring to an NFL team. The coach I was speaking with was a long time NFL guy and he said in all his years of coaching he had never been with a player that was as smart as Jones, and that includes some quarterbacks he was with. He said that Jones would come in and learn all the offensive positions and wherever you played him he would excel. Jones did do the same amount of reps at 225 as Luke Joeckel, Eric Fisher and Lane Johnson. Jones still will not be able to work out for scouts because of the Lisfranc injury, which is still a concern.

How about Warmack in the first and B. Jones(Alabama boys back together) in the second or u could go Cooper in the first and T. Armstead in the second. I like both scenarios but I'm most probably dreaming. If they even were available Jerry wouldn't draft them. Right????

 

[XxTDxX]

I could be wrong but I think Jones is more of a name than he is a quality player. You have to be careful with some of these Alabama guys who get boosted up because people know who they are before the draft.

I like 6 guards over him.. obviously Cooper and Warmack but then also Larry Warford, Justin Pugh, Brian Winters, and Alvin Bailey. Then I also have Brian Schwenke ranked higher then him as far as Centers..

I wouldn't boost him based on his position flex because I think Costa and Bernardeau both have position flex as well.. If we take an interior lineman it will most likely be a guard and I want the best one on the board.. I simply don't think Jones will be the best one on the board until the rest of the guys I named are gone and that will probably be mid 4th round. He will probably go mid 2nd and is RKG for sure but I am just not sold on him as a pro prospect..Will be solid but think the other guys are better

 

[Macnalty]

I could be wrong but I think Jones is more of a name than he is a quality player. You have to be careful with some of these Alabama guys who get boosted up because people know who they are before the draft.

I like 6 guards over him.. obviously Cooper and Warmack but then also Larry Warford, Justin Pugh, Brian Winters, and Alvin Bailey. Then I also have Brian Schwenke ranked higher then him as far as Centers..

I wouldn't boost him based on his position flex because I think Costa and Bernardeau both have position flex as well.. If we take an interior lineman it will most likely be a guard and I want the best one on the board.. I simply don't think Jones will be the best one on the board until the rest of the guys I named are gone and that will probably be mid 4th round. He will probably go mid 2nd and is RKG for sure but I am just not sold on him as a pro prospect..Will be solid but think the other guys are better

I am sure you are right about those Alabama players and people knowing who they are, Barrett Jones all american at three different positions on the Offensive line, Guard, Tackle and Center, won both the Outland and Remington awards for the best Olineman in the country as a Jr. He is the only person to win an Outland and a Remington at two different positions or in two different years, pretty sure after one year he is the best oline player on the boys IMO.

 

[xwalker]

I am sure you are right about those Alabama players and people knowing who they are, Barrett Jones all american at three different positions on the Offensive line, Guard, Tackle and Center, won both the Outland and Remington awards for the best Olineman in the country as a Jr. He is the only person to win an Outland and a Remington at two different positions or in two different years, pretty sure after one year he is the best oline player on the boys IMO.

How many awards did Tim Tebow get in college?

 

[burmafrd]

So what? You can't make a choice (value judgement) between scarce resources without basing it on value. Hence value is always the most important thing. There is no way going into a draft "just picking a player/position".

what too many mean about value is refusing to pick a guy at say 18 if you think he should not go before 24. That is the value that is for the birds

 

[burmafrd]

Where did I say I was opposed to that. If you read I have no problems using a 1st rd pick on OL I also do not have an issue using it for DT or for safety. I want the best talent to fill those needs if that is OL great but my main concern is getting top talent not taking guys because they have a G or T as their position.

Draft for position and you end up wishing you did not do that . You draft talent plan and simple.

You get so caught up with your agenda where you make comments that our entire draft should be OL, that is foolish and not going to happen. Hell we could do that and I'm sure all the complaints will be how stupid Jones was for not addressing defense.

A defense that was poor last season and has already lost our starting safety and a starting DL player while now being in a 4-3 where we will need help up front.

I'm all for beefing up the OL I'm not for wasting an entire draft just to say look we got an OL players. Few teams regret drafting the best talent

Why not make our entire draft about the O line?

With the continued failure of this team to draft a good OL player below at best the 2nd rd and for the last 10 years ANY round except the 1st that might be the only we we get the 3 good players we need.

 

[jjktkk]

Why not make our entire draft about the O line?

With the continued failure of this team to draft a good OL player below at best the 2nd rd and for the last 10 years ANY round except the 1st that might be the only we we get the 3 good players we need.

Quantity does equate to quality.. There are other needs on this team.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

How many Reps did Barrett do?

Right now, if I'm picking a Center, I think I'm looking at Schwenke from Cal.

 

[garyv]

Barrett did same Reps as the OL going ahead of him

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Barrett did same Reps as the OL going ahead of him

Really? That's interesting because so far as I can tell, he didn't lift at the Combine and he didn't participate at the Alabama Pro Day so again I ask, does anybody know what Jones actually did and what his strength numbers were?

I can understand him not running or doing agility drills if his foot is injured but that should not prevent him from lifting. In fact, his strength numbers, in this area, should actually be better because you would think that all he can do right now is lift.

 

[Vegas_Cowboy]

Really? That's interesting because so far as I can tell, he didn't lift at the Combine and he didn't participate at the Alabama Pro Day so again I ask, does anybody know what Jones actually did and what his strength numbers were?

I can understand him not running or doing agility drills if his foot is injured but that should not prevent him from lifting. In fact, his strength numbers, in this area, should actually be better because you would think that all he can do right now is lift.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/dallascowboys.php?t=253703

 

[burmafrd]

Quantity does equate to quality.. There are other needs on this team.

and what did they do last year? I say put the same amount of resources that was put into CB last year into the O line this year.

1st rd and 2nd rd picks since we do not have the Cap to get a top FA.

Warmack and Jones have started side by side so if you have them together on the O line then part of the problem people whine about as regards continuity would be reduced.

 

[jimmy40]

he had all kinds of trouble with a&m's quick nose tackle.

 

[Vegas_Cowboy]

he had all kinds of trouble with a&m's quick nose tackle.

He did? I watched the entire first half of that game the other day just to keep an eye on Jones. I recall 1 play where the DT was able to drive him back and make a play in the backfield on the RB. Otherwise, dude was impressive and didn't have any kids of trouble. Much less "all kinds of trouble."

I'll have to watch the second half when guys start to get tired. Maybe that's what you saw.

 

[tantrix1969]

....granted, he just had Lisfranc surgery on his foot and can't run but overall he's been VERY durable...concern is how that injury will heal going forward. I think there is close to NO chance we draft any decent olinemen in first 2 rounds...JJ wasn't "blowing smoke"....he truly has no clue

I'm afraid you're right, I'm hoping we get at least 1 oline guy in the first 3 rounds. Will be happily surprised if I'm wrong just think JJ thinks he has already addressed oline last year and we will see the usual suspects back out there.