Being more creative, we need a zone blitz...

[Deep_Freeze]

I would love to see us zone blitz more, we are so predictable right now. With what we are running right now, if Ware faked going to the QB, then dropped back in coverage and we send Ayodele instead, that is a sack. That LT will commit to Ware, but he won't be coming, and Ayodele would be free.

I don't have any idea why we don't zone blitz. You can say you don't want Canty, Spears and such in coverage, but they don't have to be in coverage. I just think we should make a team scared that we will blitz ANY of our LBs, not just Ellis and Ware.

If we rush 5 (which we should do more often), then the options are limitless in the 3-4. Indy was destroyed by this last year in the playoffs. The biggest advantage of the 3-4 is how you can send different blitzers at any time.

Send our 2 ILBs, and drop the other 2 in coverage. Send one OLB and one ILB. Heck, send Roy and Ware only. The options are really limitless. Sure, teams like to run between the tackles against a 3-4, but you can contain the run and limit them to 2-3 yards.

We just need to start being creative on D and taking more risks, but not huge risks. I'm not a person who would ever send 6 at the QB in a game, maybe once, and that is a big maybe. But I would love to see us send 5 alot more, it would increase turnovers and put the offense on notice that we are coming at them.

 

[superpunk]

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No....I want THAT toy!

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Aw hell....give me it all.

 

[Eddie]

Wasn't there another thread like this?

Why do we want to resort to some gimmick Defense? I say we beat our opponents straight up.

I'm not sure I want Fergie back in coverage. That's just silly.

 

[lane]

I would love to see us zone blitz more, we are so predictable right now. With what we are running right now, if Ware faked going to the QB, then dropped back in coverage and we send Ayodele instead, that is a sack. That LT will commit to Ware, but he won't be coming, and Ayodele would be free.

I don't have any idea why we don't zone blitz. You can say you don't want Canty, Spears and such in coverage, but they don't have to be in coverage. I just think we should make a team scared that we will blitz ANY of our LBs, not just Ellis and Ware.

If we rush 5 (which we should do more often), then the options are limitless in the 3-4. Indy was destroyed by this last year in the playoffs. The biggest advantage of the 3-4 is how you can send different blitzers at any time.

Send our 2 ILBs, and drop the other 2 in coverage. Send one OLB and one ILB. Heck, send Roy and Ware only. The options are really limitless. Sure, teams like to run between the tackles against a 3-4, but you can contain the run and limit them to 2-3 yards.

We just need to start being creative on D and taking more risks, but not huge risks. I'm not a person who would ever send 6 at the QB in a game, maybe once, and that is a big maybe. But I would love to see us send 5 alot more, it would increase turnovers and put the offense on notice that we are coming at them.

yes.............we need to attack and really step on our opponents throat.

no more playing not to lose.

 

[koolaid]

i really liked that play last night where ware ran to the other side of the dline and blitzed, he got in bullet fast and no one saw him coming, i hope we do some more stuff like that

 

[Deep_Freeze]

Wasn't there another thread like this?

Why do we want to resort to some gimmick Defense? I say we beat our opponents straight up.

I'm not sure I want Fergie back in coverage. That's just silly.

I'm not talking about bringing our DL in coverage. I'm talking about blitzing ANY of our LBs, instead of just Ware and Ellis.

The biggest advantge of the 3-4 is the unpredictability of where blitzers are coming from. We are not utilizing this.

Rush the front 3 all the time, but make the LB coming unpredictable. Playing opponents straight up sounds like you are playing spades or poker, not football.

Its not a gimmick, its utilizing all the advantages of the 3-4.

 

[Clove]

I think Hatcher playing DT at some points in the game would be the perfect opportunity to run a zone blitz. Hatcher could peel off into a middle zone, I think he's nimble enough.

 

[Eddie]

I'm not talking about bringing our DL in coverage. I'm talking about blitzing ANY of our LBs, instead of just Ware and Ellis.

But that's what a Zone Blitz is ... pulling the DL back into coverage and blitzing with LB's.

I think I'd rather have our blitz studs attack and keep Akoye and James in coverage. Why make our pressure guys play back in coverage and our coverage guys blitz?

 

[Deep_Freeze]

But that's what a Zone Blitz is ... pulling the DL back into coverage and blitzing with LB's.

I think I'd rather have our blitz studs attack and keep Akoye and James in coverage. Why make our pressure guys play back in coverage and our coverage guys blitz?

Because when the center is calling the play at the line of scrimmage, he is assigning who they need to block. If he can't tell who is coming, it is harder for them.

Our coverage guys blitzing every so often keeps the OL on its toes. If they can plan on Ware and Ellis coming everytime, you know the tackle will be there waiting on them. But what if that tackle is there waiting on Ware, yet Ware drops back and Ayodele is hitting the gap between the tackle and guard. Sack.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

I think Hatcher playing DT at some points in the game would be the perfect opportunity to run a zone blitz. Hatcher could peel off into a middle zone, I think he's nimble enough.

I guess this is a true zone blitz, and maybe I mislead a bit in the title of this trend. I really don't want to drop DL in coverage, we don't have small DL anymore, they are huge and wouldn't be very effective in coverage.

What I want is for us to rush any combo of our LBs. Make the center guess who is coming. I believe this could be huge for our team.

 

[es22]

A little zone blitz would work, although seeing Ellis and Ware rush is sweet.

 

[CowboysFan02]

i really liked that play last night where ware ran to the other side of the dline and blitzed, he got in bullet fast and no one saw him coming, i hope we do some more stuff like that

Yeah that was a nice play, it looked like Ware was moving with the TE, but Roy took the TE just as they snapped the ball and Ware had a clean shot.

I thought Zimmer called a nice game last nite, if this young D improves each week even a little bit, we are going to have a deadly defense.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

Yeah that was a nice play, it looked like Ware was moving with the TE, but Roy took the TE just as they snapped the ball and Ware had a clean shot.

I thought Zimmer called a nice game last nite, if this young D improves each week even a little bit, we are going to have a deadly defense.

What I'm saying is we should be able to point to more than one play as a creative blitz. Bring them from all angles baby.

 

[jrumann59]

Zone blitzing is much more eefective out of a 4-3 then a 3-4 because it is a given that the ends or OLB may end up in the flats or slant zones.

 

[MRTRIPOD]

UM???

I started this same topic in this forum like 12 hours ago?

 

[jterrell]

I'm not talking about bringing our DL in coverage. I'm talking about blitzing ANY of our LBs, instead of just Ware and Ellis.

The biggest advantge of the 3-4 is the unpredictability of where blitzers are coming from. We are not utilizing this.

Rush the front 3 all the time, but make the LB coming unpredictable. Playing opponents straight up sounds like you are playing spades or poker, not football.

Its not a gimmick, its utilizing all the advantages of the 3-4.

We blitz Ellis and Ware because they are the best pass rushers we have.

Not sure Akin with a free run has a better shot at a sack then a blocked Ware or Ellis, lol.

We do however drop Ellis and/or Ware at times into coverage.

Our blitzers outside the 3 down are Ware, Ellis, RW.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

Zone blitzing is much more eefective out of a 4-3 then a 3-4 because it is a given that the ends or OLB may end up in the flats or slant zones.

Yeah, I probably mislabeled the title, I don't want a true zone blitz, but I want to send any LB at any time, to make it unpredictable to the opposition's OL.

UM???

I started this same topic in this forum like 12 hours ago?

Guess we were thinking alike, lol.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

We blitz Ellis and Ware because they are the best pass rushers we have.

Not sure Akin with a free run has a better shot at a sack then a blocked Ware or Ellis, lol.

We do however drop Ellis and/or Ware at times into coverage.

Our blitzers outside the 3 down are Ware, Ellis, RW.

I just think we shouldn't limit ourselves to that. Sure, when Dat was in the middle, he wasn't very effective getting to the QB. But I think Ayodele and James would be able to get there easier.

BP has said that he really doesn't call sending Ware or Ellis a blitz. Sure, those normal 5 are fine, but changing it up every so often will throw the opposition off and probably make for an easy sack. Other teams do it all the time, I think it is time we do it.

And I do think a free Ayodele will get there before a blocked Ware. Ayodele has a shorter distance to the QB.

 

[MRTRIPOD]

Yeah, I probably mislabeled the title, I don't want a true zone blitz, but I want to send any LB at any time, to make it unpredictable to the opposition's OL.



Guess we were thinking alike, lol.

I am there with!

I was glad though ware was being moved all over the place sunday night

It is a start!

 

[Deep_Freeze]

I am there with!

I was glad though ware was being moved all over the place sunday night

It is a start!

Its a start, but I want more.

Be creative, so me something Zimmer.

The element of surprise can be more important than the element of skill