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Best available D-Line Options for Round 2

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by Carter, Apr 29, 2022.

  1. Carter

    Carter Well-Known Member

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    Plenty of good options left. One of those would do for me for Round 2.

    David Ojabo OLB/DE
    Boye Mafe OLB/DE
    Arnold Ebiketie DE
    Travis Jones DT
    Logan Hall DL
    Nik Bonitto DE
    Josh Paschal DE
    Perrion Winfrey DT
    DeMarvin Leal DT
     
  2. BAT

    BAT Mr. Fixit

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    Give me Travis Jones.
     
  3. 3rdEyewarrior

    3rdEyewarrior Well-Known Member

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    Are any more than situational pass rushers?
     
  4. 3rdEyewarrior

    3rdEyewarrior Well-Known Member

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    D law was a 2nd rounder. Hopefully we draft one that runs faster than 4.8 with burst.
     
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  5. Killerinstinct

    Killerinstinct Well-Known Member

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    No Sam Williams?
     
  6. Carter

    Carter Well-Known Member

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    Here are some scouting reports on these guys. I forgot that David Ojabo suffered a torn achilles on his pro day so no way he goes Round 2 or even 3.

    Travis Jones DT
    U-Conn

    6'4 325 lbs

    Positives
    — Very good initial punch. Consistent, powerful strike.
    — Great extension and upper-body strength after engaging. Fires arms out with force and takes control of the block.
    — Good lower-body strength and anchor. Does well to play low and with a stable base.
    — Can handle double-teams.
    — Good at playing with eyes on the backfield. Crosses face against blocks effectively.
    — Flashes the ability to adjust and backdoor blocks.
    — Functional range after shedding blocks. Can help make tackles in the hole.
    — Good leg drive and energy as a pass-rusher. Pushes the pocket.

    Negatives
    — Inconsistent feel for when he's getting double-teamed. Can be too late to see it and get knocked out of his gap.
    — Below-average first step. Does not fly off the ball upfield.
    — Sometimes gets too high on pass-rushing reps and stalls out.
    — Below-average quickness and speed. Not very capable of winning laterally as a pass-rusher.
    — Pass-rushing plan needs work.

    Boye Mafe OLB/DE
    Minnesota

    6'3 260 lbs

    POSITIVES
    — Good body control and burst. Can navigate and create space for himself effectively.
    — Flashes of an above-average first step, especially on clear passing downs.
    — Above-average hip flexibility to get low and dip under contact.
    — Effective and timely initial hand usage as a pass-rusher. Does well to keep opposing hands out of his frame.
    — Showed the ability to drop and cover the flat. Stayed on top of wheel routes consistently.
    — High-motor pass-rusher who comes off blocks well in space. Conducive to being a quality cleanup player.

    NEGATIVES
    — Length is average at best. Struggles to engage first if taking on blocks head on.
    — Does not have a ton of pop in his hands. Uses his hands better to keep himself clean rather than set the tone for an engagement.
    — Subpar anchor in the run game. Can have issues settling down and holding ground.
    — Below-average leg drive. Prone to stalling out and can't always finish running the arc through contact.
    — Middling ankle flexibility. Struggles to widen out when running the arc.
    — Can be late seeing and triggering on the run game.

    Arnold Ebiketie OLB/DE
    Penn State

    6'2 250 lbs

    POSITIVES
    — Top-notch flexibility around the edge, perhaps the best in the class. Can consistently get the edge against offensive tackles and turn back to the quarterback without being pushed too far behind the pocket. Also has rare ability to turn back up into the pocket and accelerate if the quarterback slides up.
    — Hand usage and pass-rushing variety is a plus. Has an effective dip-and-rip as well a decent long arm to help unlock his flexibility around the edge. Flashes the ability to work down the middle of an offensive tackle and knife back inside, thanks to his quickness and understanding of how to make his frame "skinnier" when working past offensive tackles.
    — Light on his feet for a player over 250 pounds. Shows the ability to feint a move inside to keep offensive tackles short in their set before working back outside.
    — Flashes the build-up power to bull-rush through offensive tackles. Doesn't have the heaviest hands or the ability to summon his strength from any position, but when he fires off the ball and gets a few steps to build up speed, he can pop an offensive tackle in the chest and work them back into the quarterback. Will never be his signature move, but he has it in his arsenal.
    — Has the speed and quickness to fly right through the gap as a run defender on occasion. Also a good chase-down defender from the back side of run plays.

    NEGATIVES
    — First step is nothing special. Isn't slow off the ball, but he does not come flying off the ball the way many elite pass-rushers do.
    — Strength as a pass-rusher runs hot and cold. If snatched up by the offensive tackle early in the rep, does not always have the strength to shed them off and work back to the quarterback. Needs to win reps before offensive tackles get the jump on him (which he usually does).
    — Same strength issues show up against the run. Offensive tackles can turn him out of gaps. Also does not always show the power to fit up the run against pulling players, even if willing to do so. Strength issues against the run do not make him unplayable, but he likely will not be a plus-value run defender in the NFL, at least not early on.
    — Could improve his technique as a run defender. Would like to see more reps where he stays square on the line of scrimmage, gets two hands into an offensive tackle’s frame and raises them above his eyes to take control of the block. Perhaps improved technique in this regard would make up for his middling anchor.


    Logan Hall DE/DT
    Houston

    6'6 285 lbs

    POSITIVES
    — Plays light on his feet as a pass-rusher. Effective when combined with sound hand usage.
    — Leg drive is impressive. Constantly churning his legs with a nonstop motor and power behind each step.
    — Heavy hands. Can jolt offensive linemen off balance with his first punch.
    — Bully mentality. Stronger and more violent than his opponents, and makes sure to let them know it.
    — Good anchor and ability to control blocks, especially for a sub-300-pounder. Can even get low at the snap and handle double-teams vs the run.
    — Above-average sense for what kind of blocks he's facing in the run game and how to adjust.
    — Alignment flexibility. Can play anywhere from 2i- to 5-technique. Fits today's NFL.

    NEGATIVES
    — Has moments where he leans when taking on blocks rather than keeping his weight over his feet.
    — Height can lead to some natural leverage issues. Sometimes lumbers trying to settle down and get low when faced with pulling blocks in space.
    — Height also makes it tough for him to bend low and work under blocks as a pass-rusher.
    — Not a great gap shooter. Does better to come off the ball and control blocks rather than shoot through the line of scrimmage to create chaos.

    Nik Bonitto DE
    Oklahoma

    6'3 250 lbs

    POSITIVES
    — Good acceleration. Covers ground with his second and third steps around the corner.
    — Good speed in space. Can chase the quarterback or find the ball-carrier in the backfield.
    — Great understanding of how to get skinny to slip blocks.
    — Above-average ankle flexibility. Can widen out as he runs the corner.
    — Flashed the ability to dip under contact and burst through light contact to the QB.
    — Does well to see and trigger on his run fits. Did a decent job spilling plays even at his size.
    — Pass-rushing approach is not stale. Can speed-rush, inside counter and spin, and constantly keeps his hands active.

    NEGATIVES

    — Light frame. Will need to add weight in the NFL, which may alter his playing style.
    — Close to zero pop in his hands. Does not often engage with force, especially as a pass-rusher.
    — Anchor wavers in the run game. Loses ground consistently, especially when double-teamed.
    — Poor leg drive as a pass-rusher. Does not win head-up or when fighting through heavy contact.
    — Tends to get narrow in his base and struggles to stay upright in congested areas.
    — Relied on snap-jumping to help avoid/limit contact around the edge. Not as doable in the NFL.

    Josh Paschal DE
    Kentucky

    6'3 260 lbs

    POSITIVES
    — Great explosiveness. Impresses most when shooting across the line of scrimmage into a different gap.
    — Very good upper-body strength. Flashes powerful hands.
    — Good lower-body strength and anchor.
    — Good eyes and technique versus the run. Executed versus a number of different run concepts.
    — Above-average speed in space for his size. Can chase players in the backfield.
    — Good sense for when he can backdoor blocks in the run game.
    — Good skill set for twists/stunts/etc. up front.
    — High-energy player. Plays through the whistle with physicality.

    NEGATIVES
    — Slow bringing his hands up to fire too often.
    — Below-average bend from the edge. Cannot threaten outside.
    — Below-average flexibility. Struggles to move around guards after being engaged.

    Perrion Winfrey DT
    Oklahoma

    6'4 290 lbs

    POSITIVES
    — Above-average burst off the snap. Can shoot forward to initiate contact right away, as well as shoot across into a different gap.
    — Good foot speed and quickness when working across the line of scrimmage. Can fight across the offensive lineman's face into the far-side gap.
    — Good length for the position. Improved technique could help make that an advantage for him in the future.
    — Flashes impressive upper-body strength to knock blockers back.

    NEGATIVES
    — Leg drive is inconsistent, both in the run game and as a pass-rusher. Too often stalls out.
    — Anchor in the run game is not there. Does not settle and play with a wide base when needed. Can only function as a penetrator right now.
    — Hand placement needs work. Engages with his forearms rather than his hands too often.
    — Too many pass-rushing reps where he stutters his feet on a two-way go without gaining any ground towards the blocker.

    Notes: Senior Bowl 2022 MVP

    DeMarvin Leal DT
    Texas A&M

    6'4 285 lbs

    POSITIVES

    — Great explosiveness. Comes off the ball well and gains ground in a hurry after changing directions.
    — Smooth mover in space. Can cover ground and change directions comfortably.
    — Nimble feet. Gives Leal more options in space as a pass-rusher.
    — Flashes of good ability to turn and get skinny when ripping across to another gap.
    — Has a reliable jump-swipe move and inside spin.
    — Played all over the line. Will be a chesspiece in the NFL.

    NEGATIVES
    — Poor physicality. No punch in the run game; never tries to play through blockers.
    — Poor anchor versus the run. Consistently gets washed out of plays or locked out if on the edge. Cannot handle double-teams.
    — Stalls out on interior pass-rushing reps as a result of poor leg drive and power.
    — Below-average bend and flexibility for a pass-rusher when playing on the edge.
     
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  7. Carter

    Carter Well-Known Member

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    I have him as a high 3rd Rounder as do most Boards. Could go 2nd too. Rather have him in the third.
     
  8. Carter

    Carter Well-Known Member

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    My Board from these:

    1. Travis Jones
    2. Arnold Ebiketie
    3. Perrion Winfrey
    4. Josh Paschal
    5. Logan Hall
    6. Boye Mafe
    7. DeMarvin Leal
    8. Nik Bonitto
     
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  9. BAT

    BAT Mr. Fixit

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    3rd at earliest.

    Likely available in 4th.
     
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    BAT Mr. Fixit

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  11. DanA

    DanA Well-Known Member

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    Travis Jones, Ebikete and after that I’m more interested in LB’s and WR’s.
     
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  12. Oh_Canada

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    I am assuming Ebiketie, Pickens, Hall will be long gone. Travis Jones all day for me, followed by Watson, Muma and Troy Andersen. Something tells me given how this offseason is going they end up with Trysten Hill 2.0 and Demarvin Leal.
     
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  13. unionjack8

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    I'd totally be on board moving up for Ebiketie
     
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  14. Gaede

    Gaede Well-Known Member

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    Same here. I would also move up for Mafe.

    Unfortunately, those guys are gonna go fast and we're gonna end up with Sam Williams. And if a team knows how much we love him, might not even get a chance. I'm expecting to lose our top options again, and end up with Myjai Sanders.

    Fully expecting them to go RDE/edge, no matter what. Like Jospeh last year.
     
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  15. unionjack8

    unionjack8 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, that's my concern too, I'd be happy with deangelo Malone too but I fear he's gone by 88
     
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  16. CalPolyTechnique

    CalPolyTechnique Well-Known Member

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    I have zero interest in Leal.
     
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  17. morasp

    morasp Well-Known Member

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    Probably looking at WR next (Hopefully Watson) but here's my list

    Starters

    6.39 David Ojabo Edge*
    6.35 Boye Mafe Edge
    6.34 Arnold Ebiketie Edge
    6.34 Travis Jones NT
    6.33 Nik Bonitto Edge
    6.32 Josh Paschal DL
    6.31 Sam Williams DE
    6.3 Dominique Robinson Edge

    Backups/rotational
    6.29 Logan Hall DE
    6.27 Phidarian Mathis DT
    6.23 DeMarvin Leal DL
    6.23 Perrion Winfrey DT

    *Probably wont play this season due to injury
     
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  18. Cowboyny

    Cowboyny Well-Known Member

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    I agree, WR is the most likely pick at 56.
     
  19. CalPolyTechnique

    CalPolyTechnique Well-Known Member

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    I’d have no issues taking Sam Williams at #56 and waiting to the 3rd for a WR.
     
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  20. Daillest88

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    Travis jones!
     
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