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MC KAos

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if we are sitting there on the clock at 18 with both chad greenway of iowa and manny lawson, who do you guys think we should pick and why?

i dont know much about either of them but ive heard good things about both, but id say greenway just because maybe lawson was good because he had mario williams opposite of him, anyway your thoughts
 

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I don't think many will disagree with me here in saying that Lawson would be the pick in that situation.

Someone will say Wimbley would be better and some would say Carpenter would be better, but Greenway isn't even on our radar.
 

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i personally am completely unimpressed with greenway at #18...i like lawson wimberly and carpenter all far ahead of him
 

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theogt said:
I don't think many will disagree with me here in saying that Lawson would be the pick in that situation.

Someone will say Wimbley would be better and some would say Carpenter would be better, but Greenway isn't even on our radar.
I will agree with you on that. Greenway playing in our 3-4 would be the definition of trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. Not good for him and certainly not good for us.
 

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Pros: Has rare speed for a linebacker and fine instincts, gives total effort at all times and has exceptional coverage ability. Has the hip flip and movement skills of many safeties after previous experience at that position. A downhill player who is able to makes plays all over the field and does a good job of playing off blockers and getting through traffic. He understands his responsibilities in the defensive scheme and carries them out perfectly, like another coach on the field. He stays in his lanes and does well at turning the play back inside or stringing it out to the sidelines without giving ground. A mature and intelligent person with outstanding work habits and fine character who is an avid film watcher in the mold of a Zach Thomas. He has an excellent burst of speed and quickness when attacking forward, displaying upside as a pass rusher in the right scheme though not always utilized to the fullest in that role in college. A natural and fluid athlete who moves very well, both forward and in reverse. He competes as well as anyone in this draft and is as well prepared to start as a rookie.

Cons: He needs to get stronger to be more consistently quick getting off blocks, but is a sure tackler with top instincts. His performance on the bench at the Combine (16 reps) was significantly below par for this class. Also needs to add lower-body strength. Must improve man-to-man pass coverage ability to be complete player.

Numbers: As a senior in 2005, he posted 156 tackles, 10 tackles for loss, 2 sacks, 8 passes defended, 1 QB hurry and 1 pick. At the Combine, he weighed in at 242 pounds and did 16 reps. He ran a 4.78 and had a 33.5-inch vertical jump and a 9-foot, 9-inch broad jump.

Skinny: Excellent athlete with fine talent and intangibles to be a playmaker on the outside. A future Pro Bowl selection who is the toughest player in this draft class and a top-10 prospect who could slide to the middle of the first round.
 

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MC KAos said:
if we are sitting there on the clock at 18 with both chad greenway of iowa and manny lawson, who do you guys think we should pick and why?

i dont know much about either of them but ive heard good things about both, but id say greenway just because maybe lawson was good because he had mario williams opposite of him, anyway your thoughts

Most of these top defensive guys this year had someone else on the field that will be a high draft pick. AJ Hawk had Carpenter, Greenway had Hodge, Wimbley had Bunkley and Sims... it makes little difference.

What I can tell you is this morning when ESPN was showing Mario Williams highlights I was making an effort to find #91 in those clips, and in most of them, if Mario hadn't have gotten there first, Manny was going to make the play.... One specifically was easy to pick Lawson out. Both of them were rushing an FSU QB, the pocket was collapsing, and the QB ran TOWARDS Williams, because Manny was there first. They probably awarded half a sack to each guy cause Lawson easily caught him from behind.
 

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well you guys have made up my mind then it sounds like lawson is the better pick for us, i hope we do end up getting him
 

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MC KAos said:
if we are sitting there on the clock at 18 with both chad greenway of iowa and manny lawson, who do you guys think we should pick and why?

i dont know much about either of them but ive heard good things about both, but id say greenway just because maybe lawson was good because he had mario williams opposite of him, anyway your thoughts
Maybe Williams was as good because he had someone like Lawson on the other side.
 

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Bobby Carpenter is the best linebacker in the draft... but Manny Lawson has more upside....
 
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