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Better supporting cast Dak or Mahomes

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Dak_Attack_09, Feb 3, 2020.

  1. ultron

    ultron Well-Known Member

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    I assume you're referring to 2019, because the 2020 Cowboys will be a very different team.

    The coaching staff is completely different (with the exception of 1 guy).

    The Cowboys have over 20 free agents.

    This offseason may be the most important offseason in Dallas Cowboys history.
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  2. Runwildboys

    Runwildboys Well-Known Member

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    I know what you meant to say. :muttley:
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  3. dwmyers

    dwmyers Well-Known Member

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    Not that easy to judge the Chiefs as their defense came on in the last 6 games of the season, I'm told. So which Chief's defense are you talking about?
    Using Simple Rankings over the course of a season, the Chiefs defense is about a point better than Dallas. Over the last 6 games, they are 9 points better
    than Dallas and were playing at a level akin to the Seahawks at their best.
  4. InTheZone

    InTheZone Well-Known Member

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    I don't know what you're smoking or watching, but Dallas OLine>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Chiefs.
    TE: Chiefs
    WRs push, I'd take Gallup over Watkins and Coop is plenty good against any CB.
    RB: Dallas

    DL: Chiefs
    LBs: Chiefs (outside of Lee all of their starting LBs are better than ours)
    S: Chiefs
    CBs: can't really name a starting chiefs CB, but I'd have to assume most teams have better CBs than us
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  5. SackMaster

    SackMaster Well-Known Member

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    If going by yardage, sure.

    But based off points, KC (308) was ranked better than Dallas (321) and SF (310).

    Then looking at interceptions, KC (16) had over double of Dallas had (7) and had more than SF (12).

    And lastly, looking at better against the pass, KC had more sacks (45 to 41), better QB Rating against (80.8 to 91.9), better completion % against (60.5% to 65.0%) and less total passing yards (3,543 to 3,576) even though they were passed against more (582 to 569).

    Sure, you could say the Dallas and KC Defenses were similar based off one or two stats. But KC had a better D than Dallas, and it wasn't even close. Hell, in a lot of ways, you could even argue the Chiefs had the better defense in their Super Bowl matchup.
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  6. Runwildboys

    Runwildboys Well-Known Member

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    Part of that is because he's a better scrambler, and he can throw the ball from just about ant conceivable angle.
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  7. rags747

    rags747 Well-Known Member

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    He does a hell of an option pitch rollout too.
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  8. blueblood70

    blueblood70 Well-Known Member

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    nah hes in lalala land and doesnt realize Mahomes is Elite and Daks not..he feels Dak could have won a sb with that KC team and thats laughable, I can see the other way around..Mahomes on our team would have got us to the playoffs..i have zero doubt..
  9. daboyzruleperiod

    daboyzruleperiod ♡☆

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    Seriously?! Which QB has the better overall team?
    Probably the one whose team just won a Superbowl. :lmao:
  10. panchucko

    panchucko It's Back

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    Sometimes I wonder if he isn’t Dak himself
  11. erod

    erod Well-Known Member

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    If Mahomes was here, Dallas would have probably been in the Super Bowl.

    Would have beaten the Bears, Bills, Jets, and Eagles for sure.
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  12. boxer-rumble

    boxer-rumble Well-Known Member

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    So pocket awareness is Pat > Dak.

    A skill set that separates the great QBs.
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  13. StarBoyz83

    StarBoyz83 Well-Known Member

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    Werent those one of the many games the offense didnt show up in the 1st half?
  14. Blackspider214

    Blackspider214 Well-Known Member

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    Is this supposed to be some sort of compliment? Our defenses have been putrid for 2 decades. This defense is god awful garbage. No pass rush. No turnovers forced. No playmakers. Soft up the middle and can't stop the run. They do nothing well. So yes, they are garbage. How could watch this season and think this defense was worth a crap?
  15. StarBoyz83

    StarBoyz83 Well-Known Member

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    Said they're not garbage. Didnt say they were great. The offense showed up like 40% of the year but I dont think it sucks.
  16. GenoT

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    The Chiefs have better coaching and a better QB...everything else is highly debatable.
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  17. Blackrain

    Blackrain Well-Known Member

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    I have not watched Mahomes enough to be qualified to speak on him but careful scrutiny last night looked like a guy with many of the same struggles Dak has minus the INTs . Fumbles sheesh the kid waves the ball around like a flag , Balls low in the dirt ,balls thrown behind and honestly I have seen punt , pass and kick champions throw a tighter spiral , my lord he was throwing some of the wobbliest balls I have ever seen . But I guess none of that happens very often as everyone speaks highly of him

    All that said when he finally did get a ball close and I dont mean in stride Hill caught it

    When Dak has a night like that and finally gets the ball right in there hands they drop it . Gallup vs the Eagles prime example

    Mahomes cast look like they pick him up when he struggles Daks cast drop the balls in there hands and compound the problem .
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  18. conner01

    conner01 Well-Known Member

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    Seems like the most accurate way to judge one team over another lol
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  19. Runwildboys

    Runwildboys Well-Known Member

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    Last night was uncharacteristic of Mahomes. I don't know if he was nervous playing in the SB or what, but I was surprised how badly he played up until the 4th. I agree Dak' s receivers don't often make the kind of catches Hill made yesterday, but I don't know how often they have to.
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  20. Runwildboys

    Runwildboys Well-Known Member

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    I think the defense is better too.
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