Bewildered over Cowboy nation these days

[zrinkill]

You're too easy.

I'll stop before your feelings get hurt. My good deed for the day.

You will stop because you are running out of emotes ....... you have not made a single point to refute what the OP said about when we signed Mcfadden

Probably just another banned child with a grudge ....

 

[Supercowboy1986]

You will stop because you are running out of emotes ....... you have not made a single point to refute what the OP said about when we signed Mcfadden

Probably just another banned child with a grudge ....

 

[jobberone]

We're agreeing with each other essentially. Points, points, and more points. There are lots of ways to score and prevent both, but ultimately, they're the only "stats" that matter.

Football is the ultimately cause-and-effect game. Special teams have a HUGE effect on games, and yet field position never gets considered statistically. Time of possession overly favors the ball control teams, so the quick-strike offenses or teams with dynamic defenses and special teams get lost in those numbers. And on and on.

True and why many here say stats aren't everything. Experienced sailors are cautious exploring uncharted seas. Charted seas don't protect inexperienced sailors. You need experience and knowledge including stats to understand the game well. No one disputes that.

To others: pretending to ignore stats and denigrating those who bring them into focus is poor judgement. And denigrating other members is only tolerated so much....

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

But I will say again ....... if our O-line can do that with mediocre backs ...... what would it do with a star?

I would rather find that out than yet another first round defensive back who can barely get on the field again. (see Byron Jones)

I understand this but there is no guarantee that another player we drafted would not be on the field. I believe that while the athletic ability of Jones and Ramsey are similar, the experience level of Ramsey is much superior. I don't think it's fair to conclude that Ramsey would not contribute in his Rookie year. As it is, Jones started 11 games for us last year and played in all 16.

 

[zrinkill]

I understand this but there is no guarantee that another player we drafted would not be on the field. I believe that while the athletic ability of Jones and Ramsey are similar, the experience level of Ramsey is much superior. I don't think it's fair to conclude that Ramsey would not contribute in his Rookie year. As it is, Jones started 11 games for us last year and played in all 16.

I will not lie ....... Zeke was my pet Cat ...... but I am also tired of throwing first round picks at DB's when we already have two first round CB's sitting on the bench. (Jones started games last year because of injuries)

How many first round picks do we need to get toasted in the 4th quarter year after year?

 

[erod]

True and why many here say stats aren't everything. Experienced sailors are cautious exploring uncharted seas. Charted seas don't protect inexperienced sailors. You need experience and knowledge including stats to understand the game well. No one disputes that.

To others: pretending to ignore stats and denigrating those who bring them into focus is poor judgement. And denigrating other members is only tolerated so much....

The most common and most egregious ploy you see constantly is "Dallas had the 7th best offense in football." According to what? Based on exactly what measure? Yards? Are you kidding me? Yardage decides who the best offense is?

Sure, the best offenses will rise to the top of the yardage category, but how do you disseminate the top 10 offenses by yardage? The defenses of those teams have a HUGE impact on that stat because if you're up 27-10 all the time, you shut it down. If you're constantly in 27-24 battles, you keep the foot on the gas. Running teams have fewer plays because they wind more clock. Passing teams run 20 more plays a game and use less clock. Yardage becomes completely arbitrary.

And yet, that's how offenses are still ranked. It's asinine.

 

[percyhoward]

The most common and most egregious ploy you see constantly is "Dallas had the 7th best offense in football." According to what? Based on exactly what measure? Yards? Are you kidding me? Yardage decides who the best offense is?

Sure, the best offenses will rise to the top of the yardage category, but how do you disseminate the top 10 offenses by yardage? The defenses of those teams have a HUGE impact on that stat because if you're up 27-10 all the time, you shut it down. If you're constantly in 27-24 battles, you keep the foot on the gas. Running teams have fewer plays because they wind more clock. Passing teams run 20 more plays a game and use less clock. Yardage becomes completely arbitrary.

And yet, that's how offenses are still ranked. It's asinine.

Just use the stats that correlate highest with wins in the NFL: points per drive, passer rating differential, and drive success rate.

The idea, after all, is to win games.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I will not lie ....... Zeke was my pet Cat ...... but I am also tired of throwing first round picks at DB's when we already have two first round CB's sitting on the bench. (Jones started games last year because of injuries)

How many first round picks do we need to get toasted in the 4th quarter year after year?

I don't think they are sitting. I would imagine that they will both be starting or contributing heavy minutes. I was not in favor of the Mo trade up but I loved the Jones pick.

 

[jnday]

Except for your defense, it's all about "fewer points." That's why a lot of people, myself included, were hoping defense would be more of an emphasis in this draft.

By "more of an emphasis " are you saying that the first round pick should have been Ransey or another player that was rated lower on their board?

 

[jnday]

I don't think they are sitting. I would imagine that they will both be starting or contributing heavy minutes. I was not in favor of the Mo trade up but I loved the Jones pick.

The Jones pick wasn't a bad pick at the time considering that Hardy Was signed and there was hope that the defense had s pass rush. He has done even though he was moved from position to position. I can live with a first round DB being picked in the first under those circumstances .

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

The Jones pick wasn't a bad pick at the time considering that Hardy Was signed and there was hope that the defense had s pass rush. He has done even though he was moved from position to position. I can live with a first round DB being picked in the first under those circumstances .

I believe that Jones is going to be a good player for us. I hope we are smart enough to use him to the best of his abilities.

 

[percyhoward]

By "more of an emphasis " are you saying that the first round pick should have been Ramsey or another player that was rated lower on their board?

Floyd was the player they liked in the top 10. They could have accepted the Ravens' offer of their 4th (104) to trade down two spots.

1 (6) Floyd
2 (34) Smith
3 (67) Collins
4 (101) Tapper
4 (104) Dixon/Booker/Ervin
4 (135) Prescott

Of course, it never would have happened, because we were only trying to trade down for an extra 3rd to use to get back into the 1st and take Lynch. But it's an example of what could have happened if defense had been more of an emphasis. There's no reason the OL couldn't have done for one of those RB what it did for McFadden and (with a healthy Romo) for Murray. Unless you think Murray was a special player, and McFadden's production wasn't legit. I don't think the team necessarily believes either of those things, but instead was trying to make the offense depend on Romo as little as possible. That's what the Elliott pick does, anyway.