Big Ben in King's MVP watch but not Romo

[TheRat]

And Romo by the way had the highest QB rating this week. Ridiculous. I have always noticed there has been a lot of Cowboys hate at SI whether it be from Burger King or Dr. Z.

 

[Hostile]

And Romo by the way had the highest QB rating this week. Ridiculous. I have always noticed there has been a lot of Cowboys hate at SI whether it be from Burger King or Dr. Z.

I hope you mean he had a higher QB rating. No QB topped Brees. Or at least they shouldn't.

 

[Yeagermeister]

And Romo by the way had the highest QB rating this week. Ridiculous. I have always noticed there has been a lot of Cowboys hate at SI whether it be from Burger King or Dr. Z.

It's week 1......

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I hope you mean he had a higher QB rating. No QB topped Brees. Or at least they shouldn't.

Brees played out of this world.

 

[Kilyin]

I hope you mean he had a higher QB rating. No QB topped Brees. Or at least they shouldn't.

Nope, Romo is number 1 currently with a 140.6.

Brees is at 137.0

I think it's the 13.1 yards per pass that puts Romo at the top. Brees also threw an int.

 

[Galian Beast]

brees played the lions...

 

[TheRat]

I hope you mean he had a higher QB rating. No QB topped Brees. Or at least they shouldn't.

no highest. Beat brees by 3 points. Romo had no ints and his yards per attempt this week was ridiculous.

 

[adbutcher]

I hope you mean he had a higher QB rating. No QB topped Brees. Or at least they shouldn't.

He played out of his mind, quite the performance and he should get offensive player of the week.

 

[Tra_Col99]

All media has looked over Romo and the Cowboys (IMO). Im ok with that.

 

[speedkilz88]

He played out of his mind, quite the performance and he should get offensive player of the week.

The interception takes him down a notch, Romo had the better overall game.

 

[Hostile]

Nope, Romo is number 1 currently with a 140.6.

Brees is at 137.0

I think it's the 13.1 yards per pass that puts Romo at the top. Brees also threw an int.

Yet another reason why I think Aikman's QB rating is superior to the one used.

 

[mldardy]

King had a few questionable items in his MMQB. He has the Cowboys at 10th in his power rankings below 0-1 Chicago who is 6th. What? Then his offensive players of the week are Brees. Fine. Peterson. Fine. Shaun Hill? Uh no. Peter King is and will always be an idiot in my opinion. He picks and chooses who he likes especially with Brees. He has been on his jock for a few years now.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Cool. Let King do his thing. Who cares what the moron thinks. Besides it's not going to be a QB anyway. AP is going to win the NFL MVP.

 

[TNCowboy]

Romo threw for essentially the same # of yards in fewer attempts, and had no turnovers.

There's no system anyone could devise which would give Brees a higher rating, unless they put a higher weight in touchdowns. I think Troy Aikman's career shows that TDs can be overrated as a measure of a QB's worth.

To me, the most important actual stats for a QB (other than the win column and the scoreboard) are yards per attempt and turnovers. Yards per attempt can get diluted a bit by teams that use a short passing game, somewhat in lieu of a running game, and of course, turnovers aren't always the QB's fault.

But overall, I'll take a QB who doesn't turn it over, and one with a high ypa. No other stat shows a QB's productivity in the passing game like ypa. A QB with a high completion % from dinking and dunking will have a lower ypa, just like a QB who has a low % from throwing it downfield all the time will get his ypa lowered by a higher number of incompletions. In the case of Romo, we've generally been treated to success at both.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Romo threw for essentially the same # of yards in fewer attempts, and had no turnovers.

There's no system anyone could devise which would give Brees a higher rating, unless they put a higher weight in touchdowns. I think Troy Aikman's career shows that TDs can be overrated as a measure of a QB's worth.

To me, the most important actual stats for a QB (other than the win column and the scoreboard) are yards per attempt and turnovers. Yards per attempt can get diluted a bit by teams that use a short passing game, somewhat in lieu of a running game, and of course, turnovers aren't always the QB's fault.

But overall, I'll take a QB who doesn't turn it over, and one with a high ypa. No other stat shows a QB's productivity in the passing game like ypa. A QB with a high completion % from dinking and dunking will have a lower ypa, just like a QB who has a low % from throwing it downfield all the time will get his ypa lowered by a higher number of incompletions. In the case of Romo, we've generally been treated to success at both.

 

[Pittman4Two]

Color me unimpressed with Ben Roethlisberger.

Still don't see how people are gushing over him other than he has two rings. Maybe I'm missing something.

 

[SharutoX]

Romo looked terrible in the first half, but he stepped up in the 2nd

 

[Avery]

Really, who cares?

 

[THUMPER]

Romo threw for essentially the same # of yards in fewer attempts, and had no turnovers.

There's no system anyone could devise which would give Brees a higher rating, unless they put a higher weight in touchdowns. I think Troy Aikman's career shows that TDs can be overrated as a measure of a QB's worth.

To me, the most important actual stats for a QB (other than the win column and the scoreboard) are yards per attempt and turnovers. Yards per attempt can get diluted a bit by teams that use a short passing game, somewhat in lieu of a running game, and of course, turnovers aren't always the QB's fault.

But overall, I'll take a QB who doesn't turn it over, and one with a high ypa. No other stat shows a QB's productivity in the passing game like ypa. A QB with a high completion % from dinking and dunking will have a lower ypa, just like a QB who has a low % from throwing it downfield all the time will get his ypa lowered by a higher number of incompletions. In the case of Romo, we've generally been treated to success at both.

I agree with most of what you are saying.

IMO, TD% for a QB is the #1 stat to measure a QB by. Scoring TDs is the primary goal of the offense, above yardage, TOP, turnovers, or anything else.

You win games by scoring more points than your opponent, period! Not to say that those other things do not factor into the equation, but if TD% is not the top of the list then the list is flawed because that is the point of playing the game.

Aikman is an anomaly in that he was a great QB who threw relatively few TDs. 15 of the top-29 QBs with the highest TD% are in the HoF. 3 of those top-29 are still playing and therefore not eligible (Romo, Peyton Manning, & Philip Rivers) so that is 15 out of 26 eligible are in. That tells me that TD% is a very telling stat for a QB.

A turnover, while a seriously negative play, does not always lead to points, a TD pass ALWAYS results in at least 6 points, without fail.

Obviously TD% is not the ONLY measure of a QB but it is the primary one INO. After that I would go with Yards per attempt, then turnovers, then Completion %, then wins, then sacks. I have my own rating system that takes a lot of factors into account but TD% has the highest weight in it.

You can throw more INTs, complete fewer passes, gain less yardage, and get sacked more often and STILL win the game. You cannot score fewer points and win, it's that simple.

In Aikman's case, we had a dominant running game and a RB who was money to score inside the 5 yard line. Emmitt is the all-time leader in rushing TDs for a reason. So Troy didn't need to throw a lot of TDs for us to win games, but he got us into scoring position a lot. The same can't be said of most QBs though so using Troy as an example is kind of stretching the point.

 

[Phrozen Phil]

Picking Brees vs Romo at this point after one game is a bit premature. Both players had solid games. Brees played a team that didn't win a game all of last year, but he did his job very well. Six touchdowns is an accomplishment that's worthy. Romo had his challenges, but he overcame them against opposition that was a bit of an enigma. Brees faces tough opposition next week, as does Romo. Maybe we'll know more about Tony's abolity to deal with a strong D after next week. As much as I was looking forward to the first game of the season, I'm REALLY looking forward to the next game.