Bledsoe is a more mature quarterback than McNabb

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Someone like McNabb at this point would say, "I'm all for him coming in as long as he knows, I'm the main attraction". Something stupid like that.

Bledsoe says he doesn't want to talk to anyone who had a negative relationship with him. He says that he is instantly a better quarterback without even having to do anything, just becuase T.O. is on the team. He isn't judging the guy, and he just wants to get out there and win, and knows T.O. can help.
 

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Galian Beast said:
Someone like McNabb at this point would say, "I'm all for him coming in as long as he knows, I'm the main attraction". Something stupid like that.

Bledsoe says he doesn't want to talk to anyone who had a negative relationship with him. He says that he is instantly a better quarterback without even having to do anything, just becuase T.O. is on the team. He isn't judging the guy, and he just wants to get out there and win, and knows T.O. can help.
Agreed 100%. It was McNabbs show in Philly, and he lost the spotlight and leadership to TO. I don't think Bledsoe will hav those types of battles with TO, and will probably know better.
 

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The only way I could be more happier with who our quarterback is, in this current situation, is if his name was Troy Aikman or Tom Brady. I have all the faith in the world in Bledsoe that he can deal with whatever TO throws his way. He's perfectly "tempermented" (if that's a word) to be an NFL QB. I truly believe that if the right pieces were ever put around him (and TO being a real good start to that) that Bledsoe has the tools to take a team as far as they need to go...all the way. And he's one of only a handful of QBs currently in the league I would say that about. In fact with TO this year, we very well could see a Super Bowl Ring on his finger, a starting Pro Bowl nod, and hell who knows maybe the SB MVP also. He did get better with the signing of TO...WAY BETTER!
 

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I get it. TO acting like a fool was all McNabb's fault. McNabb was nothing but classy during this whole thing.
 

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TO and McD mixed business and friendship!!! that never works!!!



Drew and TO will be all business!!!
 

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redskinsforever said:
I get it. TO acting like a fool was all McNabb's fault. McNabb was nothing but classy during this whole thing.

Isnt it funny how memory works? Once we signed TO its all the Eagles fault he acts like he does. I hate the Eagles but this is crazy. McNabb to this day has acted like a siant about this.
 

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Dave_in-NC said:
Isnt it funny how memory works? Once we signed TO its all the Eagles fault he acts like he does. I hate the Eagles but this is crazy. McNabb to this day has acted like a siant about this.

I disagree. McNabb was arrogant about TO the whole time. I quote "We were in the NFC Championship before TO got here, so I don't think it'll be any different this time without him. Not once referring to TO's importance to the team at that point. To me, that is what started the whole thing. I think if he would have chosen his words differently, this all would have been avoided. But if you want to find a seed to the problems, there it is.
 

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I disagree. McNabb was arrogant about TO the whole time. I quote "We were in the NFC Championship before TO got here, so I don't think it'll be any different this time without him. Not once referring to TO's importance to the team at that point. To me, that is what started the whole thing. I think if he would have chosen his words differently, this all would have been avoided. But if you want to find a seed to the problems, there it is.

Where did he lie? They made it to the SB with out him. Remember they were going to crumble when TO went down. They didnt. TO wasnt that big a deal for them to have.
 

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Donny acted like a whiney fool... that was before he used the race card nonsense.

The ENTIRE EAGAL fiasco could have been avoided one way or another. thankfully donny, to and mgmt failed to fix it :)
 

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I get it. TO acting like a fool was all McNabb's fault. McNabb was nothing but classy during this whole thing.

Upto SB, I would say that would have been accurate. But however when he brought up the race card in reference to TO issue, he throws his character down the gutter too. He lost all respectability or being called Classy.

Having said that, McNabb was not at all at fault or at least it didn't seem that way. But it was rather surprising to me anyway, that so few teammates came to defense of McNabb.
 

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Where did he lie? They made it to the SB with out him. Remember they were going to crumble when TO went down. They didnt. TO wasnt that big a deal for them to have.

I didn't say he lied, but his arrogance put the first damper on their relationship. As a teammate, and a good player, it's nice for normal people to be appreciated for the work done on the filed. Understand that TO is NOT normal and thus needs a little more attention than the average player. As the leader of the team, DM should have known that and should have known that it would be a slap in the face to his #1 receiver. Instead, he took the "We don't need him to win the Superbowl" road. He could have stressed how big a loss it was, how others would really have to step up to replace him, how it's going to take a total team effort to win. Instead he was like "You guys act like we CAN'T win without him. We did it before and we don't need him to do it again." All I'm saying is he could have handled it with less arrogance than he showed.
 

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I didn't say he lied, but his arrogance put the first damper on their relationship. As a teammate, and a good player, it's nice for normal people to be appreciated for the work done on the filed. Understand that TO is NOT normal and thus needs a little more attention than the average player. As the leader of the team, DM should have known that and should have known that it would be a slap in the face to his #1 receiver. Instead, he took the "We don't need him to win the Superbowl" road. He could have stressed how big a loss it was, how others would really have to step up to replace him, how it's going to take a total team effort to win. Instead he was like "You guys act like we CAN'T win without him. We did it before and we don't need him to do it again." All I'm saying is he could have handled it with less arrogance than he showed.

So McNabb ( who I cant stand by the way) should have stroked owens ego for him? Hes a grown man. Owens is a grown man. And they made it with out Owens. It had to be a bit sickening for the Eagles players to hear how they were going to fall apart with out Owens. As sickening as it is to hear we are SB bound because of him.
Its a team sport, Owens isnt bigger than any team.
 

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So McNabb ( who I cant stand by the way) should have stroked owens ego for him? Hes a grown man. Owens is a grown man. And they made it with out Owens. It had to be a bit sickening for the Eagles players to hear how they were going to fall apart with out Owens. As sickening as it is to hear we are SB bound because of him.
Its a team sport, Owens isnt bigger than any team.

No, but the Eagles management should have given TO his money. IF the Eagles would have given TO the contract Dallas just gave him, the organization would have kept their star reciever. I know alot of people will say, but TO signed the contract. Those same people forget that his agent forgot to file his FA paperwork on time. By the time he won his freedom, most of the FA dollars were spent. The Eagles low balled him and their weren't alot of other places that could have signed him. He is an elite reciever and should have been paid as one.
 

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No, but the Eagles management should have given TO his money. IF the Eagles would have given TO the contract Dallas just gave him, the organization would have kept their star reciever. I know alot of people will say, but TO signed the contract. Those same people forget that his agent forgot to file his FA paperwork on time. By the time he won his freedom, most of the FA dollars were spent. The Eagles low balled him and their weren't alot of other places that could have signed him. He is an elite reciever and should have been paid as one.

Ok so lets say thats all true. Whos fault is that? Owens didnt keep up with what was going on in his life that affected his well being? Thats pure stupidity on his part. The Eagles low balled him or what ever you want to call it he signed it. Lets not forget they were taking a risk here also. Owens wasnt a poster boy in Niners land either.

So again Owens should have had a contract structure that suited him. He didnt because he thought he could strong arm his way into it. The Eagles didnt fold.
All further proof of what an idiot Owens is.
 

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Dave_in-NC said:
So McNabb ( who I cant stand by the way) should have stroked owens ego for him? Hes a grown man. Owens is a grown man. And they made it with out Owens. It had to be a bit sickening for the Eagles players to hear how they were going to fall apart with out Owens. As sickening as it is to hear we are SB bound because of him.
Its a team sport, Owens isnt bigger than any team.

How many team sports have you played? Ever had a great player on your team with a bad attitude. Eventually you get sick of them, but when things are going ok, you always take into account how they are feeling so you can keep the harmony on the team. It's not great, but it's a fact of life. You take the baggage with every good player. See Barry Bonds.
 

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How many team sports have you played? Ever had a great player on your team with a bad attitude. Eventually you get sick of them, but when things are going ok, you always take into account how they are feeling so you can keep the harmony on the team. It's not great, but it's a fact of life. You take the baggage with every good player. See Barry Bonds.

A ton, but never as a JOB. This is his job. Hes old enough and paid well enough that he shouldnt need his ego stroked. This is nuts.
 

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I get it. TO acting like a fool was all McNabb's fault. McNabb was nothing but classy during this whole thing.

Thank you.

It's sad that a non-Cowboys fan has to spell out the truth to Cowboys fans trying to "justify" the signing of TO.

It's sickening.

Look, there's no excuse for TO's behavior. PERIOD.

And, yes, it's possible to criticize TO's behavior and be excited about the excitement he'll bring to the Cowboys' offense.


As for the comparisons, McNabb was all class. However, I think Bledsoe and McNabb are different as it relates to the FO.

In Philly, the FO wanted to make McNabb the MAN.

In Dallas, Bledsoe isn't necessarily THE MAN. He is a veteran leader who needs the Cowboys as much as the Cowboys need him. He's working on his legacy - that elusive Super Bowl win that will solidify his career and his possible induction into the Hall of Fame. I think that's his (Bledsoe's) focus and the reason why he may not care about being overshadowed by TO.
Besides, in Dallas, Parcells and Jerry Jones overshadow Bledsoe, so he's used to it.

In Philly, McNabb is a young quarterback working on his legacy. I think McNabb is a very good quarterback, but he's dogged by accusations about his accuracy and his ability to win the the clutch. When TO attacked McNabb, he basically attacked the team's star, he resurrected the "racial" issues about a black quarterback - let's be honest, that's a part of this too - and he essentially dumped on the MAN the front office wants to promote as the face of the Eagles.
Philly's FO, IMO, thought it could bring in TO to help McNabb, and by helping McNabb elevate McNabb's status as an elite quarterback, justifying Philly's FO's faith in him.

TO likely believed that he was "better" than McNabb, and when he saw that he busted his butt to get back in shape and play in Super Bowl 38 and saw that McNabb got tired at the end of the game, throwing balls at receivers' feet, he likely lost all respect for McNabb, and probably felt McNabb was not worth the acclaim and riches the FO was bestowing on him.

And that's when it all started down hill.

Again, I'm not excusing TO's behavior, but I can see some undercurrents here with regard to his relationship with McNabb.
 

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Dave_in-NC said:
A ton, but never as a JOB. This is his job. Hes old enough and paid well enough that he shouldnt need his ego stroked. This is nuts.

Look, I understand where you're coming from. I'm only saying that with some people, if you want them, you gotta do what you gotta do. Up to the point where it isn't worth it anymore. All I'm saying is that McNabb lit the fire by his early comments about not needing TO.
 
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