Bledsoe vs Brunell, the debate continues

[Gryphon]

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This is a debate being argued on another forum between Cowboys and Commanders fans....http://forums.espn.go.com/espn/thread?forumID=140&threadID=3904027&lastPostID=25225607

Bledsoe has at least been to a Super Bowl and has won 2 AFC Champ games for his team. What big game experience does Brunell have?

Seriously, Commander fans (although they will never do this) need to hush up! Brunell is also two years older than Bledsoe, so QB is more of an issue for the Skins than it is the Boys, if Bledsoe has the protection (and this is a question mark for Dallas this year), he is one of the best in the game. Can't say that for Brunell.

Plus, Bledsoe has thrown for 244 TD's, Brunell (just 174). Wise up Skin fans and tell Brunell to win some big games for the Skins before turning up the warpath on us. Thank you!
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Bledsoe still has one of the top-5 arms in the league and can throw absolute lasers.

Given the state of the 0-line (injuries, young players, etc.) last year for most of the season I couldn't have asked for a better performance.

I've always liked the guy. He's a consumate pro and a tough son-of-a-gun just like Aikman was.

Brunell is asimilar player but along the lines of a Steve Young without quite the ability--in my opinion.

The similarities in situation for both are eerie. Brunell came close to a Super Bowl and is now in the twilight of his career being coached by a living legend as is Bledsoe.

Neither could ask for a better situation to wrap up successful careers.
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Brunell has played in 11 career playoff games while Bledsoe has only played in 7. While neither have been particularly good in the playoffs, Brunell has been a good deal better.

Bledsoe has thrown nearly 100 more INTs than Brunell in their careers. Brunell has a career QB rating of 84.1 while Bledsoe has a career QB rating of 77.3. Brunell has the luxury of an OL and a running game while Bledsoe doesn't.

What big games has Bledsoe won? He pretty much sucked in all of his team's playoff wins, and he was just downright terrible in their losses. The Pats didn't win any SBs until Bledsoe got injured... I guess it's good that Bledsoe has the experience of sucking in big games 10 years ago!
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This is not about Bledsoe. Bledsoe is good enough to get the job done if he has the TIME. My concerns border around our O line and running game.The reason I have always mentioned another QB is because having a QB with some mobility would make a big difference because it keeps the defense from just doing a straight ahead bull rush and blitz. As far as Brunell is concerned what you saw last year was awful in the playoffs.
He had a good running game and o line but still continued to play bad. He is also very injury prone. I think skins fans should be worried about him getting hurt. The chances of him making it through another season are not good.
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No offense meant but this whole talk about a mobile QB is not what you think it is. A defense bull rushes and blitzes no matter who the QB is. Bledsoe can handle the blitz if he has an OL. If he doesn't then he is just like any other QB without an OL. What happened to McNabb last season? A QB is what he is. Bledsoe could potentially be a HOF but everyone has their weaknesses. You are never going to get a QB that does it all. They are a little rare. If you got a mobile QB you would also get one that made bad throws on the run, made bad decisions and had nowhere near as good an arm as Bledsoe. With Bledsoe everything is so simple. If you give him time and separation, like we have now, he is lethal. You could have Vick, Young or McNabb but you get a whole set of other problems with each of them, less with McNabb. However, most of that translates to why he is not as mobile any more. As mentioned previously 26 or Bledsoe's 50 sacks were caused by Tucker and Pettiti. If that had not happened a lot of things would be different.
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I have to say Brunell is better then Bledsoe because:

1. Everyone is back for him for offense
2. Al Saunders comes aboard
3. New weapons

 

[JonCJG]

Brunell is washed up.

No arm, old, and he's fragile.

Drew will have a better year.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Given Brunell's age I would have to stick with Bledsoe but I think Brunnell has been the slightly better QB over their careers.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Please..PLEASE...offseason be over.

 

[Doomsday101]

Please..PLEASE...offseason be over.

I agree. Both teams have pretty decent QB's can't people just leave it at that?

 

[ghst187]

Given Brunell's age I would have to stick with Bledsoe but I think Brunnell has been the slightly better QB over their careers.

I would agree but I wouldn't trade Bledsoe for Brunell at this point. Brunell wouldn't have lasted very many games last year behind our OL. Brunell was pretty lethal in his heyday in Jax.
I think if Brunell would've had the weapons Steve Young did, results might've been similar.
People forget that if Bledsoe had not been on the roster in the playoffs year 1 of NE's SBs....they probably lose in the first or second round. I believe it was the Pitt game where Bledsoe came in for Brady.
Bledsoe is pretty solid and I'm pretty happy with him for now. He's the first "real" NFL QB we've had on the roster since Aikman. Troy didn't fare so well when the OL went to crap either. Give guys like Troy and Bledsoe a decent OL and solid running game...and they're lethal. Case in point...Buffalo when McGahee took over and starting running well last half of season before last. Bledsoe looked like a top 5 QB.
I think for the intents and purposes of arguing DB vs MB right now...I think the big difference is that MB is a bit more fragile and DB has a bit more left in the tank. I don't think either would have much success if their situations were swapped.
On a related note, everyone is talking about how Saunders will make Wash
s offense more lethal..and that may be true....at some point.....but I'm not sure it will be year 1. It sure wasn't in KC. Plus, the blocking scheme is different I believe. It may take a year or so to settle in. And I don't see Brunell having more than another year left as a starter and maybe one more after that as a backup. (I also don't think Campbell will amount to much but that's another debate)
It could turn out to be a huge mistake for Wash to change coaches, personnel, and systems this offseason when they had decent success last year with what they had. It may cause them to take a step back on the field even though everyone looks at them on paper and says they should be better. They haven't had a string of continuity there since napoleon took over. Synergy is very important in football. Wash had that last year. Changing too many parts may not be a good thing.

 

[MONT17]

the thing I hate about DREW BLEDSOE is that every once in a while he makes rookie mistakes.... last year in SEATTLE with like 10 seconds on the clock after a timeout no less from his own 35 he throws a pick!!! I'm not saying the boys would have won in OT but it would have been nice to see him sit on it no matter what the coaches told him to do!!! Granted I blame the coaches as much as I blame DREW... but Drew was the one that read (or didnt) the coverage and threw the ball!!!


If Bledsoe respects his limitations he will lead the NFC in passer ratings!!!


Brunell was a product of a very good WR duo!!! If ART MONK is a HOF then McCardell and Jimmy Smith are FBHOF!!!

 

[ghst187]

Brunell was a product of a very good WR duo!!! If ART MONK is a HOF then McCardell and Jimmy Smith are FBHOF!!!

I think Jax's early success was largely due to Brunnell. He is pretty darned accurate and used to throw some lasers. Add in that he used be a real scrambling threat.
I think Steve Young was even more a product of the system and surrounding talent (and perennially GARBAGE division).

 

[iceberg]

Please..PLEASE...offseason be over.

yea, we need a few more "favorite linebacker of all time" threads and the like.

lord i hate the off-season...

what's your favorite cowboys season in which they wore 3 different uniforms during that year and which was your favorite uniform!!!

we need a "Who Cares" emo.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

emo.

you're emo? that explains everything!

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Brunell definetely surprised me for the 1st half of last year. But he really is done.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Brunell definetely surprised me for the 1st half of last year. But he really is done.

for someone who buys alot of time for himself, he couldn't buy the time to complete more passes and average a higher ypa than Bledsoe, who's immobile and was playing behind a horrible Oline for half a season

 

[lspain1]

the thing I hate about DREW BLEDSOE is that every once in a while he makes rookie mistakes.... last year in SEATTLE with like 10 seconds on the clock after a timeout no less from his own 35 he throws a pick!!! I'm not saying the boys would have won in OT but it would have been nice to see him sit on it no matter what the coaches told him to do!!! Granted I blame the coaches as much as I blame DREW... but Drew was the one that read (or didnt) the coverage and threw the ball!!!

Mont, late in a certain game last year, a QB named McNabb made a poor read and threw a pass. That pass was intercepted and returned for a TD by Roy W. and the Cowboys won a game they should have lost. Poor reads happen to vets and not just to Bledsoe.

 

[Vintage]

If I was going to bet, I'd bet on Bledsoe this year.

But I wouldn't put a ton of money on it.

However, Brunell did outplay Bledsoe last year...so Commander fans do have something to hinge their hat on. FWIW.

And I wouldn't trade Bledsoe for Brunell either....

 

[Cowchips]

Mont, late in a certain game last year, a QB named McNabb made a poor read and threw a pass. That pass was intercepted and returned for a TD by Roy W. and the Cowboys won a game they should have lost. Poor reads happen to vets and not just to Bledsoe.

Even the best qb's have bad days. Examples:
Brady throws 4 picks vs. KC
P. Manning anytime he plays New England
B. Favre just about any game last year

Bledsoe just seems to have his magnified by media and fans that don't understand that every qb has bad days.

 

[DLCassidy]

Even the best qb's have bad days. Examples:
Brady throws 4 picks vs. KC
P. Manning anytime he plays New England
B. Favre just about any game last year

Bledsoe just seems to have his magnified by media and fans that don't understand that every qb has bad days.

Very true.

 

[BlueWave]

the thing I hate about DREW BLEDSOE is that every once in a while he makes rookie mistakes.... last year in SEATTLE with like 10 seconds on the clock after a timeout no less from his own 35 he throws a pick!!! I'm not saying the boys would have won in OT but it would have been nice to see him sit on it no matter what the coaches told him to do!!! Granted I blame the coaches as much as I blame DREW... but Drew was the one that read (or didnt) the coverage and threw the ball!!!


If Bledsoe respects his limitations he will lead the NFC in passer ratings!!!


Brunell was a product of a very good WR duo!!! If ART MONK is a HOF then McCardell and Jimmy Smith are FBHOF!!!

Did you like the five games he brought us from behind, or do you only remember the one he didn't?

 

[illone]

I think most Skins fans see that Brunell had a better year last year than Bledsoe and assume he's the better QB because of that. The "What have you done for me lately" routine. I personally think Bledsoe is top 5 in the league. Brunell is top half, if that. Bledsoe has the better arm and is tougher. Brunell has more mobility but even that isn't what it used to be. Right now Brunell is a servicable vet on the down slope of a pretty decent career where as Bledsoe is one of the toughest leaders in the NFL.

Brunell has the better oline, running game, and potentially better receivers.

Bledsoe is still the better overall QB, though.

 

[burmafrd]

Bledsoe has the better and more PROVEN WRs and TE. The O line is the key; if they can do a decent job of protecting him then he will hurt any team. If they do a good job of protecting him he will shred any team. Brunnel can still move and hurt you with his legs- but with his injury history and age, its just a matter of time.

 

[RiggoForever]

I honestly don't know who will do better. While Saunders may have the perfect offensive gameplan...coaches can be absolute geniuses and if the execution isn't there on the field, it just doesn't matter.

Like many have said, the key for both teams is the continuity and play of the offensive line. I like the Commanders offensive line and feel its one of the best in the NFL (particularly down the stretch last year), but 1-2 injuries can quickly limit offensive flexibility and schemes.

Another key I think will be whether or not the Commanders/Cowboys are able to bury opponents like the Texans and Titans in the first half, and rest key starters in the second half. The healthier Jones and Portis and their OLs stay, the better the chance for each team.