Bob McGinn Draft Series (Scout Comments): Quarterbacks

Gaede

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Can't, for the life of me, figure out why people are so down on Hogan. I think he's a sure thing.

8. KEVIN HOGAN, Stanford (6-3, 214, 4.74, 3-4): Posted a 36-10 record, winning three Pacific-12 Conference titles and starting in three Rose Bowls. "He's more ready than Brissett is," one scout said. "He is accurate. He does pretty much everything well. He has a funny release. Doesn't Philip Rivers have a funny release?" His passer rating was 104.2 and his record was 16-6 against AP top 25 opponents. "That (delivery) doesn't bother me," said a second scout. "Sonny Jurgensen had a really weird release. Throws it like Philip Rivers. He's cerebral, smooth." From McLean, Va. "He's your old-time pro QB," said a third scout. "Takes most of his snaps under center. He's good but not anything special." Wonderlic of 38.

He's got all the physical attributes and the stats to back him up.

Oh, but he throws it funny.
 

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6. DAK PRESCOTT, Mississippi State (6-2, 227, 4.78, 2-3): Billed by the Bulldogs as the most decorated player in their history. "This was not a good team but for two years they competed against the best teams," one scout said. "He was the entire team there. The guy's just a winner. He's got patience, focus, makes quick decisions, good arm strength, nice touch, stands tall in the pocket under pressure." Posted 23-10 record and had a passer rating of 99.6. Also rushed for 2,501 yards and 41 TDs. "He motivated that team, held guys accountable," another scout said. "I just don't see the vision downfield. He's a very streaky thrower. There will be a place for him in the league. I'd take him over Tim Tebow hands down." Arrested for a DUI in mid-March. Wonderlic of 25. "He's got no accuracy, got no vision," said a third scout. "I don't think he's an NFL quarterback." From Haughton, La.

7. JACOBY BRISSETT, North Carolina State (6-3 ½, 230, 4.92, 3):Transferred from Florida after two seasons, sat out 2013 and was the Wolfpack's MVP the past two years. "He has a chance to be a starter," said one scout. "I think he's better than Teddy Bridgewater. He's bigger, got a better arm and better pocket presence, and is a great kid. People will want to work with him. He's got this huge lower body. Guys just have a hard time bringing him down. He's not a speed guy but he's not a slug." Compared by another scout to Daunte Culpepper. "Strong arm with a compact motion," he said. "Just really inconsistent." Compiled a 90.9 passer rating and rushed for 12 TDs. Wonderlic of 24. "He doesn't play fast," a third scout said. "He's methodical. I don't know if he can carry a team on his back." From West Palm Beach, Fla.

10. CARDALE JONES, Ohio State (6-5, 250, 4.80, 4-5): Non-qualifier out of Cleveland Glenville High under coach Ted Ginn Sr., redshirted in 2012 and was third string in 2013-'14 until injuries struck. Played spectacularly in three-game stint culminated by a national title. Started eight of the first nine games in '15 before being benched for J.T. Barrett, then declared a year early. "You can't pass a talent like that," said one scout. "If you're going to bet on one, bet on a guy with all the talent if he shows you enough want-to." Passer rating of 97.2, rushed for 617 yards. "Kind of reminds me of a poor man's JaMarcus Russell," said another scout. "At least JaMarcus had some touch. This guy just throws the ball. His mechanics are all over the place." Added a third scout: "Strong arm. Big, big body. Not the brightest cookie in the world. I worry about him when he gets money in his pocket. I just don't know if it's all there mentally." Wonderlic of 25.

Pick your poison.
 

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3. PAXTON LYNCH, Memphis (6-6 ½, 246, 4.83, 1): Fourth-year junior. "He's the guy I like," one scout said. "He's got the poise, the vision. You can see what Memphis has done since he's been there. Guy beat Mississippi and put Memphis on the map. Good athlete. Got all the things I look for in a guy." Only other offers out of Deltona, Fla., were from Florida A&M and Bethune-Cookman. "For a tall guy he doesn't act like (Dan) McGwire or somebody," another scout said. "He can get out of trouble. He can run. He can make all the throws. Accuracy is good, not great. Just give him a minute … but Jacksonville gave (Blake) Bortles only fourgames." His 36-inch vertical jump tied Cardale Jones for best effort among QBs. His passer rating of 93.5 included 110.6 in '15. "You might hit the home run with Lynch but because of the mental you might strike out," a third scout said. "He has the best arm. It ain't even close. That big, tall son of a gun can run, too. He's a little spacy, a little different." Added a fourth scout: "The overall maturity level and disposition, I'd be a bit concerned. Big kid, strong arm. But he's a ways away mentally." Wonderlic of 18.

Lynch has always been my pick but wondered about the mental side.
 

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Lynch has always been my pick but wondered about the mental side.

Could be youth. Is worriesome though. Physically I like him better then both Wentz and Goff, I just know if the intangibles are there like those two.

Character doesnt seem in the red, so yoy hope he grows into it in the pros
 

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Pick your poison.

Dak is a mental midget. No thanks.Lynch passes the eye test but he seems to be a spoon short of a full set. Hadn't seen his score. I'm a big believer in smart qbs.
 
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Can't, for the life of me, figure out why people are so down on Hogan. I think he's a sure thing.



He's got all the physical attributes and the stats to back him up.

Oh, but he throws it funny.
Hand size and mass sunk Bridgewater all the way from potential #1 overall to last pick in the first
Sometimes scouts really latch on to something and it sinks a guy more then it should
 

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What's funny is you get the feeling that he would not draft any QB this year in the top 10. And I think that might be accurate.
 

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"Fifth-year senior from Bismarck, N.D., who didn't start a game until his fourth year." And we are talking about a level of competition one itty-bitty step up from high school. That there, is Wentz in a nutshell.

I'm sure the Philly crowd will be so understanding as he sits on the bench for two to three years learning and adjusting to the speed of the NFL.
 

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Wentz would be my 1st, Goff the second....after that, I would consider Hogan in the 4th. If not him, then Driskell. I think they are both maybe a little later than where he has them though.
 

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Have been on the Kevin Hogan bandwagon for quite a while. Unfortunately, Dallas seemingly hasn't shown much interest. They did get to see him at the Senior Bowl though...and perhaps Garrett & Linehan might have been impressed when Hogan reached out to Linehan with the Senior Bowl approaching, wanting to get a jumpstart on the playbook they'd be using. Hogan said Linehan was very accommodating and sent one over right away.

Hogan is very intelligent on & off the field. He went 16-6 vs. top 25 teams & holds the Stanford record for career wins. He can do some damage with his legs & is the only Stanford QB to rush for over 1,000 yards for his career. He's got solid size...and also has the hand size some seemingly place a premium on. He's tough. He operated in a pro style/west coast offense. He was a team captain at Stanford & voted a team captain at the Senior Bowl.
 

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I would defintely take Hogan and Allen ahead of Prescott,they both have something which translates to the NFL and can atleast be a turned into a good backup.
 

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Have been on the Kevin Hogan bandwagon for quite a while. Unfortunately, Dallas seemingly hasn't shown much interest. They did get to see him at the Senior Bowl though...and perhaps Garrett & Linehan might have been impressed when Hogan reached out to Linehan with the Senior Bowl approaching, wanting to get a jumpstart on the playbook they'd be using. Hogan said Linehan was very accommodating and sent one over right away.

Hogan is very intelligent on & off the field. He went 16-6 vs. top 25 teams & holds the Stanford record for career wins. He can do some damage with his legs & is the only Stanford QB to rush for over 1,000 yards for his career. He's got solid size...and also has the hand size some seemingly place a premium on. He's tough. He operated in a pro style/west coast offense. He was a team captain at Stanford & voted a team captain at the Senior Bowl.

Yeah, I've been very surprised by our lack of interest. I can only hope it's a smokescreen. I mean, the guy has every single attribute this team looks for in a player. Right down to the team captain thing.
 

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Makes me sick knowing Philly got Wentz. Disgusting.

Screw you Jerry Jones.
 

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Wonderlic of 18 on Lynch? That's the quarterback equivalent of Mo Claiborne.
 

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The Eagles got an elite franchise QB prospect.

We get an impact less cornerback. Or a try hard DE.

Oh joy. Go Cowboys.
 
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