Bob Sturm on Jared Goff

Manwiththeplan

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I think it's fair to criticize Goff's accuracy, mainly due to the system he plays in. Lot's of wide open space and it's hard to tell if he's throwing them further open or just doesn't have great deep ball placement, but I don't see where the criticism of his arm strength comes from. He has by far the most zip on his passes among the top 3.
 

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I don't know if he'll bust but I think he'll be a Sam Bradford type.

Also, for a guy that so NFL ready he played in a offense that doesn't translate to the NFL and he is skinny as a toothpick.

He needs time in the weightroom before he is ready to step on the field imo.

I see a lot of Bradford, Barkley, Ken Dorsey in this guys game.

these are just bad comparisons, if you feel the need to compare Goff to bad QBs at least compare him to bad QBs he resembles. Kyle Boller, Blaine Gabbert, even a less mobile Jay Cutler. Most of your comparisons are guys with average at best arms.
 

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All I can say is, if any one of the three QBs rated as 1st-rounders are available at #4, I'm saying thank you very much.

Paxton Lynch is the Best(QB)Available, and he's even a border line top 10 choice.

BET, the NFL Combine proves disappointing for Goff, could turn either way for Wentz but Lynch will command respect and be the 1st QB taken.
 

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Are you mental?

Right in the first sentence of my post I said he played well on the road against Stanford and later noted that every time he pulled them close in that game their defense or ST's would give up a huge play. Stanford, the team that finished 3rd in the country that is. As for the UCLA game, he moved the ball well enough early on but their defense gave up points on drive after drive, he played well in garbage time too but what do you want him to do, not play well?

It wasn't his best game but you implied he didn't play well against the PAC-12 because they had him figured out, that was clearly not the case.

Jack is an excellent prospect that I've had my eye on since last season. I know he's likely to run in the 4.5 area, maybe lower at the Combine. Fantastic athlete, one of the best coverage LB's I've ever seen in college, I think he has the coverage ability of an old school SS playing at LB, which is extremely rare. I'd be happy enough with him at 4, my point is that it's comical to me that you act like he is some sure fire, no brainer pick when he missed his entire Junior year and has never been ultra productive in terms of stats like a guy like Kuechly was.

Goff is right there with him as a prospect, both have clear traits that transfer to the NFL, you just refuse to see them in Goff because you want to cling to Romo and the fairy tale that is finding a franchise QB in the 6th round or later. Just because people hit the lottery doesn't mean you should bank on the lottery for your retirement.

lol im not a Romo fan. And im not against the team for QB. But IMO Lynch and Wentz would be better. IM glad Dallas will never get the chance to draft goff. So it doesnt really matter.
 

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lol im not a Romo fan. And im not against the team for QB. But IMO Lynch and Wentz would be better. IM glad Dallas will never get the chance to draft goff. So it doesnt really matter.

Kenny Stabler was not a well liked quarterback...but he won.
 

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Me too. Honestly, I'll take any of the three. They each have potential to take over.

Goff has the best vision, Wentz has the best intangibles, and Lynch has the best physical ability. All three have the tools, just a matter of preference.

And when they all combine they become





The greatest defender of the UNIVERSE
 

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Paxton Lynch is the Best(QB)Available, and he's even a border line top 10 choice.

BET, the NFL Combine proves disappointing for Goff, could turn either way for Wentz but Lynch will command respect and be the 1st QB taken.

Other posters have already pointed out the over-valuing of QBs in the DFL draft. It's just a fact. As long as one of those three over-valued QBs are still on the board for Dallas to take at #4, I"ll be happy. :D
 

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I don't give s*#$! if he throws a knuckle ball as long as he put the ball only my guys can get it and no one else at >65% completion rate and TD to int ratio > 4.

He's got a ascending track records over past three years proving he's getting better. Spiral can be taught. Ability to process info and make snap decision are much harder to learn. I like a QB who's proven he's top of his class in his mental game. He'll also get stronger as he fill his frame. Aaron Rodgers wasn't exactly known for his arm when coming out of Cal.

Whaaat?? :omg:
 

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Wentz has been getting massive amounts of praise heaped on him, but I still have Goff as my top QB. Sturm summed it up better than I ever could, but this is pretty much how I feel. Except I don't think he has the highest ceiling, well not exactly anyways. Lynch and Wentz both probably have higher ceilings if everything goes right for them based on sheer physical talent. Goff has a little less of a ceiling, but a much higher floor, with a much greater chance of hitting his ceiling as well. I'm content to take either of Goff or Wentz at 4 and hope one is the pick.

I'm with you 100%. I want goff. Only way we get him is we trade to one. Which would cost a fortune and that means tony is out sooner rather than few years. I think we stay put grab a defensive guy honestly or treadwell
 

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Hate to break everyone's bubble...but this kid has "BUST" written all over him. I've watched over an hours worth of highlights.....I can not believe the hype for this sub par project. I wouldn't even put him in the first round. 6'4...skinny as a toothpick. I'm afraid he is skinnier than Kellen Moore. This guy makes Manute Bol look fat. Someone get this guy a steak....Seriously someone send this guy some food stamps before he gets diabetes.

He looks almost exactly like Tom Brady did coming out. Loose passes and all.

doubt Dallas ever has a shot at him but this kid is a tremendous prospect.
 

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When he played ranked opponents he was bad. I suggest sturm go and watch the game vs Utah. Theres a reason Goff was taking alot of bad press in the middle of the yr. thats when they played the better teams in the pac12 and he stunk it up. Now all of the sudden without any games being played he's superman? This is the one QB i hope Dallas stays away from. If you are going to stay at 4 and pick a Qb pick Lynch, if youre going to trade back pick Wentz. Anybody who watches pac twelve football knows what im talking about. The west coast is laughing at these "draft experts". Mark these words down, youre looking at the next Joey Harrington.

good lord man... goff had 1 bad game in 3 years of play, lol.
he was not bad versus good comp, he was bad one game versus utah.

please stop posting things that make other people dumber.
 

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FWIW, Sturm has been very right on prospects. Guys he liked and targeted have been solid because he isn't a homer of anyone but Wisconsin so watches the tape and is fair with zero agenda. He isn't a cowboys fan so when he suggests a guy can help, he is looking at it objectively.

Other guys he openly pined for in Dallas were DeCastro, Fletcher Cox, Aaron Donald... all pro bowlers this year.
 

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Paxton Lynch is the Best(QB)Available, and he's even a border line top 10 choice.

BET, the NFL Combine proves disappointing for Goff, could turn either way for Wentz but Lynch will command respect and be the 1st QB taken.

You've been around long enough to know these guys aren't doing much at the combine but meeting with teams and partaking in the underwear olympics.

I doubt any of these 3 throw.
 

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You've been around long enough to know these guys aren't doing much at the combine but meeting with teams and partaking in the underwear olympics.

I doubt any of these 3 throw.

@Alexander posted an article stating Goff plans to do everything at the combine.
 

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You've been around long enough to know these guys aren't doing much at the combine but meeting with teams and partaking in the underwear olympics.

I doubt any of these 3 throw.

Wentz said he will be throwing at the combine, I love his approach, the kid is not afraid of anything and will show his ability.
 

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Kellen Moore threw for the 2nd most passing yards in NFL history for a guy making his 2nd start @ home. Let that sink in. So yeah...I think that makes me a QB expert....other than the fact I'm probably the only guy on this forum that has ever played past the high school level here.

Passing yards mean jack when you are getting picked left and right............Moore cant look off a safety if you had him playing rookie level on Madden.
 
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