Bob Sturm: The Romo Manifesto

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The Romo Manifesto
http://insidecorner.dmagazine.com/2009/07/15/the-romo-manifesto/
by Bob Sturm

The following entry may not make a ton of sense to all of you. I write this only for a certain portion of the audience. If you consider yourself a football fan that believes Tony Romo’s story has yet to be written, and the truth shall be told in the years to come, then this might not be for you.

However, if you consider Tony Romo either a loser, a spare, just a guy, mediocre, or another over-rated Cowboys’ QB, then this is for you.

If you have ever accused guys like me who think Romo’s got something of being “Cowboys’ Apologists”, “Romo Lovers”, or “blind because of your love for Romo”, then this is for you.

If, this summer, you dreamed of grabbing Brady Quinn, Mark Sanchez, or Jay Cutler to push Romo out, then this is for you.

This entry is not to say, “Tony Romo walks on water and is the best QB in the NFL”. But, rather, it is to make the point that Tony Romo appears to be on track to go from where he is now (undoubtedly one of the best 6 or 7 QBs in the NFL) to even another level (One of the top 3 or 4).

It is to demonstrate that in the NFL, Rome is seldom built in a day. It is to show that he has warts, but if he should harness them, the sky is the limit.


I am not a Tony Romo apologist. I don’t think he has much to apologize for. This is a big year for him, but not because he has failed to this point. The team has not won in the playoffs, and that is a concern, but that doesn’t mean they haven’t received top-flight play from the QB position.

From what I wrote on December 9, 2008 - a few days after his loss in Pittsburgh…

To review my take on Tony Romo: I believe that Tony Romo is the real deal. I believe he is one of the very best QB’s in this league, and I believe that he will someday win a Super Bowl as the QB for the Dallas Cowboys. These are all predictions, not based on his previous accomplishments, but rather based on what I believe based on observation, conversation, and analyzing his total package of skills.

Now, I also believe he has been very good, and that he is a victim of circumstance as it pertains to the unreal bar of expectations in this city, but do not confuse the two separate discussions. The last paragraph is just what I believe. If you believe the opposite, not only are the odds in your favor, but there is no resolution until he either wins a Super Bowl or leaves the Cowboys. But this paragraph can be discussed with just a little analysis and some sweet looking html tables.

Shall we begin?

First, we can all admit that being QB in this city means that you will always be compared to Troy Aikman and Roger Staubach. Not just Troy and Roger, but the best of Troy And Roger. Allow me to inject just a small amount of wisdom into the conversation, by comparing the first 3 years of each man as a Starter in the NFL and for the Cowboys:

Aikman Wins-Losses Touchdowns Interceptions
1989 0 - 11 9 18
1990 7 - 8 11 18
1991 7 - 5 11 10
Total 14 - 24 31 46

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Staubach Wins-Losses Touchdowns Interceptions
1971 10 - 0 15 4
1973 10 - 4 23 15
1974 8 - 6 11 15
Total 28 - 10 49 34

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Romo Wins-Losses Touchdowns Interceptions
2006 6-4 19 13
2007 13-3 36 19
2008 8 - 5 26 14
Total 27 - 12 81 46

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Playoff Record in first 3 years as Cowboys QB:

Troy Aikman: 0-0
Roger Staubach: 5-3
Tony Romo: 0-2

There is one thing to note here. When Roger Staubach won his first playoff game, he was 29 years, 11 months old. Tony Romo is about to play his Age 29 season, and Troy Aikman had his 3rd Super Bowl won at the age of 29.

Here is another fairly impressive number that you may not be aware of. Since, 2006 -When Romo took over as QB, here are the combined TD/INT numbers you should check out (please take special note of how many of the players on this list had already established themselves in the league before 2006. The point is that he is being compared with pretty much all veteran QB’s while he is starting his career as a starter):

QB TD’s INT’s TD/INT
P. Manning 89 35 +54
Brady 74 20 +54
Brees 88 46 +42
Rivers 77 35 +42
McNabb 60 24 +36
Romo 81 46 +35
Warner 63 36 +27
E Manning 68 48 +20
Palmer 57 37 +20
Roethlisberger 67 49 +18
Favre 68 55 +13

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Again, not trying to make the case that this is an apples to apples study. But, since 2006, only 6 quarterbacks AVERAGE a +10 TD/INT in each of the years. Exactly 3 QB’s in the entire NFL have thrown 80 touchdowns during that span. And only 1 was doing it in his first 3 years as a starting Quarterback in the National Football League - Tony Romo.

And this business about his being a Interception machine? Well, do you notice how many players on this list are in his neighborhood in the interception department? And did you happen to notice how many Super Bowl Rings are in that group - during this stretch? Eli? Roethlisberger? Oh, my. Who knew?

And those fumbles that I am always asked about when I bring up his TD/INT? Fumbles are certainly not to be ignored. A few quick thoughts on fumbles. First, I am often asked why fumbles are not part of a QB rating and my reasoning (although I cannot verify that this is the true reason) is that Interceptions are often a conscious decision. A QB sees something and makes a throw trying to advance the ball. If he is wrong, it is picked off. A fumble, on the other hand, is not a poor decision - unless you consider trying to keep a play alive a poor decision, which is a fair counter - but rather it is often the product of poor pass protection from the line and poor ball protection by the QB. Romo and the Cowboys are guilty of both as you will see below, but it might require not more film study - it may require better protection. The other point I would make about fumbles would be that they will often be far more damaging to a team when it comes to field position. An interception is downfield, but a fumble from your QB is usually behind the line of scrimmage. That, of course, is very bad. A QB has to protect the ball, and a team has to protect its QB.

Of the 11 QBs above, 9 of them fumbled at least 8 times and at most 12 times. Peyton Manning lost 2 fumbles and Kurt Warner lost 16. The other 9 were between 8-12 over 3 years. These QB’s lose fumbles 3-4 times a year. All of them.

Here are the QB’s who have fumbled the most from 2006-2008:

Player Fumbles Fumbles Lost
Warner 33 16
Romo 32 12
Roethlisberger 28 12
Rivers 27 12
E Manning 27 11
Favre 27 10

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Romo has too many fumbles, there is no doubt about this. And when you add his interceptions to his fumbles (46+12 = 58) you will see that he ranks as 3rd most giveaways amongst that list of top QBs. Who would be joining him on the medal stand of giveaways? Ben Roethlisberger (61) is first and Eli Manning (59) is second. Between them, they have won 3 of the last 4 Super Bowls. So, evidently, the good far outweighs the bad.

How about this reality? Ask any statistical dork, and they will tell you that a “90″ passer rating is the number that is often considered to define “elite” QB play. If you have a rating above 90, you are in the top 25% of QB’s in the National Football League. Fewer than 10 players can say that.

In 2006, 8 QB’s were over 90 QB Rating - They are (in order):

Manning, Huard, Brees, McNabb, Romo, Palmer, Bulger, Rivers

In 2007, 8 QB’s were over 90 QB Rating:

Brady, Roethlisberger, Garrard, Manning, Romo, Favre, Garcia, Hasselbeck

In 2008, 9 QB’s were over 90 QB Rating:

Rivers, Pennington, Warner, Brees, Manning, Rodgers, Schaub, Romo, Garcia

Only 2 names show up on all 3 of those lists. Peyton Manning and Tony Romo.

Playoff wins and Super Bowl wins are what matters most. However, do they always distinguish quality QB play? For instance, in 2000, was Trent Dilfer the best QB in the NFL? In 2002, was Brad Johnson? In 2007, was Eli Manning? Of course, not.

Sometimes, the only fair way to distinguish the play of a QB is to look at his measurable statistics. QB Rating and TD/INT ratio are two of the best metrics that we have to determine QB excellence. And he passes both with flying colors. W-L record doesn’t hurt either, and at 27-12, Romo’s win percentage sits at 69% to date in the regular season. And, 0-2 in the playoffs.

My defense of Romo is 2-fold:

1) He has not been that bad. In fact, he has been very good. There are many things that have happened that have been his fault, but like all QBs, he has been blamed for the sins of the defense, the coaches, the OL, the WRs, and whatever else has gone wrong in the last 3 holiday seasons. And that is the job. Fine. But, he has been at the very, very worst, one of the best 10 QBs in the entire NFL. Given that there are 32 starters in the league, when he is in the upper 30% while playing in his first 3 seasons….you may have to stop the insanity.

2) He has been playing his first 40 games in the NFL. I don’t care how long he was on the sideline, very few players in the world not named Tom Brady, Kurt Warner, and now, Ben Roethlisberger find great success within 40 starts. His age is advanced for a kid, but he has been a kid. In September, he will play his first game since Eastern Illinois in 2002 that had a huddle where he is the guy in complete charge (Good luck, by the way, to Trent Edwards) and it has been a tough task to learn, he should now be ready.

Romo is currently at 39 career starts. For context, Super Bowl winning Quarterbacks average 30 years of age, and 85 career starts - about 5.3 NFL seasons worth of starts. Some did it in fewer than 39 (Staubach, Montana, Warner, Brady, and Roethlisberger) and some took much, much longer (Peyton Manning 144, John Elway 219).

He has been green. But, he should be nearing the end of his training.

See, I didn’t claim that he gets any longer. The fact is, 2009 is an extremely important year for him. I would suggest that he does need to get that first playoff victory. He does need to exhibit the ability to make the right plays and not make the wrong ones in his 3rd full year and 4th year as a starter.

He is no longer a kid. They made adjustments to fit him. It is now a year for make-or-break. If he falls on his face in 2009, the Cowboys would be foolish to consider QB a position of strength.

But, it appears many in the public - yes, even Dallas fans - already have ruled him “not the guy”. He won’t ever win the big one, right? You don’t know he won’t anymore than I know he will.

I realize I have put my eggs in the Romo basket, and yes, I cringe when he appears to be a bit too “Hollywood” for my taste. But, I would like to say that I believe Tony Romo is the real deal, and while he may be a far cry from Mr. Staubach and Mr. Aikman, I would also say he is a far cry in the other direction from Quincy, Bledsoe, Vinny, Hutchinson, Henson, etc.

Chances are, if you feel Romo has nothing, there is nothing I can tell you that will change your mind - only he can change your mind with some big moments after Christmas. But, perhaps some of these numbers and thoughts have made you consider what you believe about the Cowboys’ QB.
 

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Romo's fate is still in his own hands.

the other day, Jamie Dukes on NFL Total Access just blasted Romo and flat out called him a "Choker!" He used the word "Choke" several times.

If Romo desires to be thouhgt of in a little more higher manner, then he has to get that monkey the media has placed on his back. It is the same one Steve Young had.
 

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The sad part is that if others had done their job we wouldn't even be having the debate. If Gramattica falls in front of the guy pursing Romo after the bobbled snap, he scores a TD. If Witten (I'm not saying he didn't do his job because he did) can squeeze a few more inches out of his catch we have a first down inside the one. I actually think he did make a 1st down, but you can argue the refs made the right call. Give us either of those circumstances and Tony is 1 for 1 in playoff games.

If anybody re-watches the Giants playoff game with an open mind and still blames that loss on Romo all I can do is say a prayer for you.

Romo should have at least 2 playoff wins and possibly more.
 

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I almost stopped reading up near the top. Thought it was going to be a "romo sux lolz" article. Glad I read it. Good read.
 

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Gryphon;2844609 said:
The fact is, 2009 is an extremely important year for him. I would suggest that he does need to get that first playoff victory. He does need to exhibit the ability to make the right plays and not make the wrong ones in his 3rd full year and 4th year as a starter.

He is no longer a kid. They made adjustments to fit him. It is now a year for make-or-break. If he falls on his face in 2009, the Cowboys would be foolish to consider QB a position of strength.

I'm with Sturm on everything but the bolded part. I think it would be unfair, and has been unfair, to judge Romo based on playoff victories/losses. If the team plays worthy of winning and Romo doesn't, then it's fair. But if he does enough to win and other parts of the team let him down, then it's unfair and certainly should not be make-or-break.

Romo has some things to improve on, but if he continues to put up numbers like he has as a starter, the playoff victory will come when the whole team plays worthy of winning. Sometimes a good quarterback can overcome lapses by other members of the team, but in the playoffs, you really need everybody clicking on almost all cylinders.

Romo can do better with his part of that, of course, but those losses can't be lain strictly at his feet and the real blame for them should be spread among several teammates.
 

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Manster68;2844658 said:
Romo's fate is still in his own hands.

the other day, Jamie Dukes on NFL Total Access just blasted Romo and flat out called him a "Choker!" He used the word "Choke" several times.

If Romo desires to be thouhgt of in a little more higher manner, then he has to get that monkey the media has placed on his back. It is the same one Steve Young had.

You seem to have selective hearing there. Yes he said that, but he said in the context that, Romo has so far choked during December and January games. Although he has won plenty of big games, he hasn't won games in December, hence he is labeled choker.

Dukes is a big Cowboys fan. Yeah, is also little bit of a TO fan, much like Neon Deion, but he is a Cowboys fan. And he does think highly of Romo, but at the same time says he has to prove himself in december/january time, if not he will get labelled like Peyton Manning before Manning won his playoff games ( and he said that too).
 

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gimmesix;2844775 said:
I'm with Sturm on everything but the bolded part. I think it would be unfair, and has been unfair, to judge Romo based on playoff victories/losses. If the team plays worthy of winning and Romo doesn't, then it's fair. But if he does enough to win and other parts of the team let him down, then it's unfair and certainly should not be make-or-break.

Romo has some things to improve on, but if he continues to put up numbers like he has as a starter, the playoff victory will come when the whole team plays worthy of winning. Sometimes a good quarterback can overcome lapses by other members of the team, but in the playoffs, you really need everybody clicking on almost all cylinders.

Romo can do better with his part of that, of course, but those losses can't be lain strictly at his feet and the real blame for them should be spread among several teammates.
bottom line: the Dallas Cowboys have to win a playoff game at the very least in the 2009 season. they have underachieved for the last 3 years and it's time to make some real progress.
 

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Rampage;2844792 said:
bottom line: the Dallas Cowboys have to win a playoff game at the very least in the 2009 season. they have underachieved for the last 3 years and it's time to make some real progress.

funny you should pop in...

Gryphon;2844609 said:
But, it appears many in the public - yes, even Dallas fans - already have ruled him “not the guy”. He won’t ever win the big one, right? You don’t know he won’t anymore than I know he will.
 

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LeonDixson;2844666 said:
The sad part is that if others had done their job we wouldn't even be having the debate. If Gramattica falls in front of the guy pursing Romo after the bobbled snap, he scores a TD. If Witten (I'm not saying he didn't do his job because he did) can squeeze a few more inches out of his catch we have a first down inside the one. I actually think he did make a 1st down, but you can argue the refs made the right call. Give us either of those circumstances and Tony is 1 for 1 in playoff games.

If anybody re-watches the Giants playoff game with an open mind and still blames that loss on Romo all I can do is say a prayer for you.

Romo should have at least 2 playoff wins and possibly more.

right on the money. nice post.
 

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Bob Sacamano;2844828 said:
funny you should pop in...
I said he won't ever win the big one? are you just mad cause DE said I was right and you were wrong when you were talking about your stupid wildcat idea?
 

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Rampage;2844859 said:
I said he won't ever win the big one? are you just mad cause DE said I was right and you were wrong when you were talking about your stupid wildcat idea?

I've always made fun of you

why should I stop now? :)

and don't act like you don't know what I'm talking about
 

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Bob Sacamano;2844887 said:
I've always made fun of you

why should I stop now? :)

and don't act like you don't know what I'm talking about
refresh my memory
 

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One problem with comparing Tony to Roger and Troy at those times in their careers: Tony inherited a team both young and improving in talent. Troy started with a terrible team that got better. Roger started with a veteran team that got older and lost people. So all three started with the team at different levels. Kind of hard to compare that.
 

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Manster68;2844658 said:
Romo's fate is still in his own hands.

the other day, Jamie Dukes on NFL Total Access just blasted Romo and flat out called him a "Choker!" He used the word "Choke" several times.

If Romo desires to be thouhgt of in a little more higher manner, then he has to get that monkey the media has placed on his back. It is the same one Steve Young had.

I think Young was a little different. He had at least won a playoff game, he just couldn't get out of Montana's shadow and get his team to a Super Bowl.

Donovan McNabb is a far more accomplished QB than Romo who some feel might not "deserve" the choker label, but he's fair game as well until he gets the job done (or his team gets it done). Peyton Manning was the same way. It is too bad, but it is the perception.

Regardless, I don't have a problem with the label other than it is overplayed and used excessively, even in cases where it might not truly apply. Young really did not lay an egg in these big games, but he just couldn't beat Dallas. Manning also had poor outings where the Patriots made him look terrible. McNabb fits the label as he has lost more championship games than any big-time QB I can recall and looked bad doing so without that one team being his nemesis. Romo is not quite in that level.

But Romo has come up short in meaningful do or die games. It is just a reality. QBs catch more grief than they always deserve, but he's not unique in that regard. He (and this organization) has to win a playoff game. Once that happens, it is then on to the trophies. Then he'll go through what Manning and Young did.
 

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burmafrd;2845033 said:
One problem with comparing Tony to Roger and Troy at those times in their careers: Tony inherited a team both young and improving in talent. Troy started with a terrible team that got better. Roger started with a veteran team that got older and lost people. So all three started with the team at different levels. Kind of hard to compare that.

Same goes for the Aikman commentary. He experienced his growing pains with what amounted to an expansion team.

The key is the QB must lead and grow with the team. I don't believe Romo has matured into that kind of role yet.
 

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Too bad his inconsistent OL and WRs are constantly making things harder on the guy.
 

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LeonDixson;2844666 said:
The sad part is that if others had done their job we wouldn't even be having the debate. If Gramattica falls in front of the guy pursing Romo after the bobbled snap, he scores a TD.

So a munchkin kicker is supposed to block a defensive back speeding off the edge because Romo dropped the football? Be realistic here.

If Witten (I'm not saying he didn't do his job because he did) can squeeze a few more inches out of his catch we have a first down inside the one.

Romo played a very ordinary game. Most of our best plays were the result of Julius Jones. It is easy to ask that Witten make the few extra inches, but had Romo been more on target especially early in that game the outcome might have been different.

I actually think he did make a 1st down, but you can argue the refs made the right call. Give us either of those circumstances and Tony is 1 for 1 in playoff games.

And he would still have to deal with the same criticisms Young and Manning did when they graduated to losing championship games.

If anybody re-watches the Giants playoff game with an open mind and still blames that loss on Romo all I can do is say a prayer for you.

Like it or not, he did force the ball to Terry Glenn. Right or wrong? That makes him part of those than can be blamed. It does not make him exclusively the goat. He made a bad pass. Just like Meredith did back in 1966. He also had to carry that burden around for years and into retirement. Fasano, Crayton, Jacques Reeves, all of them made errors in that game, each with its own level of fault.

Romo should have at least 2 playoff wins and possibly more.

Well, he doesn't.
 
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