Bobby Carpenter

[cowboy4life_32]

I have seen several threads where people stated that Bobby Carpenter was a wasted 1st round pick.
Here are the picks after Capenter. From the looks of things, Maroney for New England & Lawson for the Forty-Whiners looks like great picks, but I don't know about the others just yet. Who else after the Capenter pick should we have drafted instead?

19 19 San Diego Cromartie, Antonio CB 6-2 207 Florida State
20 20 Kansas City Hali, Tamba DE 6-3 275 Penn State
21 21 New England Maroney, Laurence RB 6-0 216 Minnesota
22 22 San Francisco (from Washington through Denver) Lawson, Manny OLB 6-5 240 North Carolina State
23 23 Tampa Bay Joseph, Davin G 6-3 312 Oklahoma
24 24 Cincinnati Joseph, Johnathan CB 5-11 192 South Carolina
25 25 Pittsburgh (from N.Y. Giants) Holmes, Santonio WR 5-11 187 Ohio State
26 26 Buffalo (from Chicago) McCargo, John DT 6-2 301 North Carolina State
27 27 Carolina Williams, DeAngelo RB 5-9 213 Memphis
28 28 Jacksonville Lewis, Marcedes TE 6-6 262 UCLA
29 29 N.Y. Jets (from Denver) Mangold, Nick C 6-4 299 Ohio State
30 30 Indianapolis Addai, Joseph RB 5-11 215 Louisiana State
31 31 Seattle Jennings, Kelly CB 5-11 179 Miami (Fla.)
32 32 N.Y. Giants (from Pittsburgh) Kiwanuka, Mathias DE 6-6 265 Boston College

 

[YosemiteSam]

Here are my thoughts on these players vs what the Cowboys needed.

19 19 San Diego Cromartie, Antonio CB 6-2 207 Florida State
Didn't need him.
20 20 Kansas City Hali, Tamba DE 6-3 275 Penn State
Didn't need him.
21 21 New England Maroney, Laurence RB 6-0 216 Minnesota
They hadn't given up on Jones and MBIII yet. Didn't need him.
22 22 San Francisco (from Washington through Denver) Lawson, Manny OLB 6-5 240 North Carolina State
Didn't need him, they needed a run stopping linebacker not another Ware.
23 23 Tampa Bay Joseph, Davin G 6-3 312 Oklahoma
This is a major possibility at guard, but he isn't an NFL tackle.
24 24 Cincinnati Joseph, Johnathan CB 5-11 192 South Carolina
Didn't need him.
25 25 Pittsburgh (from N.Y. Giants) Holmes, Santonio WR 5-11 187 Ohio State
With TO, Glenn, and Crayton they needed more elsewhere.
26 26 Buffalo (from Chicago) McCargo, John DT 6-2 301 North Carolina State
I don't think he will be effective in a 3-4.
27 27 Carolina Williams, DeAngelo RB 5-9 213 Memphis
Again, Cowboys haven't given up on Jones and MBIII
28 28 Jacksonville Lewis, Marcedes TE 6-6 262 UCLA
Already had Witten and could get Fasano in the second round.
29 29 N.Y. Jets (from Denver) Mangold, Nick C 6-4 299 Ohio State
With Al Johnson and Andre Gurode we weren't looking for a Center
30 30 Indianapolis Addai, Joseph RB 5-11 215 Louisiana State
Jones and MBIII
31 31 Seattle Jennings, Kelly CB 5-11 179 Miami (Fla.)
Didn't need him.
32 32 N.Y. Giants (from Pittsburgh) Kiwanuka, Mathias DE 6-6 265 Boston College
He is to small for a 3-4 defense.

 

[royhitshard]

Davin Joseph

 

[Yeagermeister]

27 27 Carolina Williams, DeAngelo RB 5-9 213 Memphis

But I'm a homer

 

[YosemiteSam]

Davin Joseph

Ha! He is the only one I liked, but I see you have ties to him by your .sig.

 

[BARRYRAY]

Trade up if necessary, my picks, LT,LT,LT,LT, Flo has lost it, without one of those we go nowhere whether its Romo or Troy Aikman, this has got to get fixed, should have last draft...

 

[CrazyCowboy]

I am still hoping Carp was the right call.

 

[Angus]

I have seen several threads where people stated that Bobby Carpenter was a wasted 1st round pick.
Here are the picks after Capenter. From the looks of things, Maroney for New England & Lawson for the Forty-Whiners looks like great picks, but I don't know about the others just yet. Who else after the Capenter pick should we have drafted instead?

19 19 San Diego Cromartie, Antonio CB 6-2 207 Florida State
20 20 Kansas City Hali, Tamba DE 6-3 275 Penn State
21 21 New England Maroney, Laurence RB 6-0 216 Minnesota
22 22 San Francisco (from Washington through Denver) Lawson, Manny OLB 6-5 240 North Carolina State
23 23 Tampa Bay Joseph, Davin G 6-3 312 Oklahoma
24 24 Cincinnati Joseph, Johnathan CB 5-11 192 South Carolina
25 25 Pittsburgh (from N.Y. Giants) Holmes, Santonio WR 5-11 187 Ohio State
26 26 Buffalo (from Chicago) McCargo, John DT 6-2 301 North Carolina State
27 27 Carolina Williams, DeAngelo RB 5-9 213 Memphis
28 28 Jacksonville Lewis, Marcedes TE 6-6 262 UCLA
29 29 N.Y. Jets (from Denver) Mangold, Nick C 6-4 299 Ohio State
30 30 Indianapolis Addai, Joseph RB 5-11 215 Louisiana State
31 31 Seattle Jennings, Kelly CB 5-11 179 Miami (Fla.)
32 32 N.Y. Giants (from Pittsburgh) Kiwanuka, Mathias DE 6-6 265 Boston College

Cromartie. Purely on BPA, not need.

 

[rock0100]

Thomas Howard (LB - UTEP). He is having a good year at Oakland. I wish we would trade Carpenter and a future draft pick for a good strong safety that can cover, then move Roy Williams to inside linebacker. I know he is undersized, but we already know he can tackle anything that moves and he would not have to be in coverage so often.

 

[royhitshard]

Ha! He is the only one I liked, but I see you have ties to him by your .sig.

Yes, I am a homer, but I think Oline was more important than LB, and he was a great Olineman at OU. JMO

 

[AbeBeta]

Trade up if necessary, my picks, LT,LT,LT,LT, Flo has lost it, without one of those we go nowhere whether its Romo or Troy Aikman, this has got to get fixed, should have last draft...

There was only 1 LT worth a first. It would have taken most of our picks to get up that high.

 

[StarAmongStars]

Just food for thought.....but when Bobby The Bust dresses we are winless. We might want to consider sitting him the rest of the season especially since he's useless anyway.

Parcells comments about this kid not even showing him anything on special teams is very telling.

 

[Basileus777]

There was only 1 LT worth a first. It would have taken most of our picks to get up that high.

They could have traded down and taken Justice, or even McNeil later in the 2nd round.

 

[Pabst]

I'm sure it has nothing to do with playing two tough teams on the road.

 

[StarAmongStars]

I have seen several threads where people stated that Bobby Carpenter was a wasted 1st round pick.
Here are the picks after Capenter. From the looks of things, Maroney for New England & Lawson for the Forty-Whiners looks like great picks, but I don't know about the others just yet. Who else after the Capenter pick should we have drafted instead?

19 19 San Diego Cromartie, Antonio CB 6-2 207 Florida State
20 20 Kansas City Hali, Tamba DE 6-3 275 Penn State
21 21 New England Maroney, Laurence RB 6-0 216 Minnesota
22 22 San Francisco (from Washington through Denver) Lawson, Manny OLB 6-5 240 North Carolina State
23 23 Tampa Bay Joseph, Davin G 6-3 312 Oklahoma
24 24 Cincinnati Joseph, Johnathan CB 5-11 192 South Carolina
25 25 Pittsburgh (from N.Y. Giants) Holmes, Santonio WR 5-11 187 Ohio State
26 26 Buffalo (from Chicago) McCargo, John DT 6-2 301 North Carolina State
27 27 Carolina Williams, DeAngelo RB 5-9 213 Memphis
28 28 Jacksonville Lewis, Marcedes TE 6-6 262 UCLA
29 29 N.Y. Jets (from Denver) Mangold, Nick C 6-4 299 Ohio State
30 30 Indianapolis Addai, Joseph RB 5-11 215 Louisiana State
31 31 Seattle Jennings, Kelly CB 5-11 179 Miami (Fla.)
32 32 N.Y. Giants (from Pittsburgh) Kiwanuka, Mathias DE 6-6 265 Boston College

I would have taken Lawson....kid is going to be special. I actually had him graded as a top 10 prospect on my draft board.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Did we lose to the Commanders? I could swear we beat them.

 

[junk]

Double check your facts.

Carp was active against Washington.

 

[theebs]

Just food for thought.....but when Bobby The Bust dresses we are winless. We might want to consider sitting him the rest of the season especially since he's useless.

Parcells comments about this kid not even showing him anything on special teams is very telling.

ACtually its your information that is bust worthy.

Carpenter was active against washington not jacksonville.

but who needs details this is a message board where anything that is said is a fact.

 

[superpunk]

I would have taken Lawson....kid is going to be special. I actually had him graded as a top 10 prospect on my draft board.

NFL Scout in the hizzy!

Genuflect, people....genuflect.

 

[junk]

They could have traded down and taken Justice, or even McNeil later in the 2nd round.

Or they could have just taken McNeil with their second round pick.....but they didn't. Obviously not much interest if they passed twice.