Boldin to the... Cards?

[CactusCowboy]

That's the word here today, deal in the works to keep Boldin a Cardinal.

 

[Stash]

Better there than having to face him twice a year!

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I just heard on NFL network tonight that the word from inside the Cards is that they have not been contacted by any team wanting to trade for him and they're now resigning themselves to working out a long term deal with him that will make him happy because it appears no one out there is interested in dealing for him.

Thats the word going around apparently anyway.

 

[SteveOS]

good.

 

[Blue&Silver]

They want a first, and third. He's worth a 2. That's why he'll be a cardinal.

 

[Stash]

They want a first, and third. He's worth a 2. That's why he'll be a cardinal.

Looks like we really overpaid for Roy Williams....

 

[dadymat]

Looks like we really overpaid for Roy Williams....

if he comes out and does what we know he can..itll be a bargain.....

unless youd rather have the 1st back and draft another Carp or Spencer

 

[Hypnotoad]

Looks like we really overpaid for Roy Williams....

Hes not going anywhere, hes not a diva, and there is potential to grow with Romo. At the time we thought the wins would start flowing if we had another WR the other side of TO. We also have alot of draft picks and would have gambled a #1 pick on a WR anyway. So we never got those wins, but we did get him early and he has built a relationship with Romo, and we eliminated some draft risk while bettering the team.

Also with the draft so soon, there's too much value in those picks. Teams be thinking they can find a cheap WR who will give them good enough production.

 

[Stash]

if he comes out and does what we know he can..itll be a bargain.....

unless youd rather have the 1st back and draft another Carp or Spencer

I hope he does.

But even drafting Carpenter still doesn't scare me off of having first round picks.

 

[Stash]

Hes not going anywhere, hes not a diva, and there is potential to grow with Romo. At the time we thought the wins would start flowing if we had another WR the other side of TO. We also have alot of draft picks and would have gambled a #1 pick on a WR anyway. So we never got those wins, but we did get him early and he has built a relationship with Romo, and we eliminated some draft risk while bettering the team.

Also with the draft so soon, there's too much value in those picks. Teams be thinking they can find a cheap WR who will give them good enough production.

I really do hope it works with Roy Williams and feel he's better than he was able to show last season.

But given the apparent 'going rate' for veteran receivers, it sure looks like Dallas overpaid.

And this is from a guy who was all for making the deal.

 

[Hypnotoad]

But given the apparent 'going rate' for veteran receivers, it sure looks like Dallas overpaid.

I don't really understand the going rate... Am I missing another WR who was traded?

Unless you want a 32+ year old WR whose team decided they don't really care to keep him than yeah we overpaid. Why did we get a young 27 year old WR for a 1st and a 3rd when we could have gotten Marvin Harrison for the veterans minimum?

Anquan is asking to be traded. Cards are asking for a 1st and a 3rd. Market sure looks consistent to me. If he gets traded for a second rounder there will be egg on our collective faces, but he wont be. He will either wait till he becomes a free agent, protest and probably reduce the contract he gets next year, or some team will 'overpay' the value the team with his contract is asking for.

 

[ajk23az]

Where did you hear this?

 

[Doomsay]

I don't really understand the going rate... Am I missing another WR who was traded?

Unless you want a 32+ year old WR whose team decided they don't really care to keep him than yeah we overpaid. Why did we get a young 27 year old WR for a 1st and a 3rd when we could have gotten Marvin Harrison for the veterans minimum?

Anquan is asking to be traded. Cards are asking for a 1st and a 3rd. Market sure looks consistent to me. If he gets traded for a second rounder there will be egg on our collective faces, but he wont be. He will either wait till he becomes a free agent, protest and probably reduce the contract he gets next year, or some team will 'overpay' the value the team with his contract is asking for.

It is a little difficult to benchmark - but I think that the Roy deal is as close as you can come to a direct comparison. That being said, I don't think that anybody else would have given up a 1st and a 3rd for Roy Williams because he isn't worth it.

 

[Big Country]

That's the word here today, deal in the works to keep Boldin a Cardinal.

I'm not at all surprised because AZ will still be able to make him a big part of their offense. Since they know Boldin and his strengths and weaknesses PRESENTLY... and Wisenhunt is on the coaching up and up it really should be in his best interest ....
Dallas should keep their own is my opinion...
I do not want Boldin after his hip injury...

 

[Stash]

I don't really understand the going rate... Am I missing another WR who was traded?

Unless you want a 32+ year old WR whose team decided they don't really care to keep him than yeah we overpaid. Why did we get a young 27 year old WR for a 1st and a 3rd when we could have gotten Marvin Harrison for the veterans minimum?

Anquan is asking to be traded. Cards are asking for a 1st and a 3rd. Market sure looks consistent to me. If he gets traded for a second rounder there will be egg on our collective faces, but he wont be. He will either wait till he becomes a free agent, protest and probably reduce the contract he gets next year, or some team will 'overpay' the value the team with his contract is asking for.

This has nothing to do with Marvin Harrison so I don't know why he'd be brought up.

It has to do with Arizona asking for the same thing Detroit got for Roy Williams and not getting it.

Arizona sees a 1st and 3rd round pick as the 'going rate' for a young Pro Bowl receiver because that's what Dallas paid.

But, unlike the Cowboys, nobody else is willing to pay that rate.

I don't think him going for a second rounder would embarrass the Cowboys any more than the rest of the league not being willing to pay what the Cowboys did has shown.

30 other teams are apparently unwilling to pay what the Cowboys did.

That says something to me.

 

[Hypnotoad]

This has nothing to do with Marvin Harrison so I don't know why he'd be brought up.

It has to do with Arizona asking for the same thing Detroit got for Roy Williams and not getting it.

Arizona sees a 1st and 3rd round pick as the 'going rate' for a young Pro Bowl receiver because that's what Dallas paid.

But, unlike the Cowboys, nobody else is willing to pay that rate.

I don't think him going for a second rounder would embarrass the Cowboys any more than the rest of the league not being willing to pay what the Cowboys did has shown.

30 other teams are apparently unwilling to pay what the Cowboys did.

That says something to me.

I brought Harrison up because other than Harrison, Holt, and Housh they were the big names on the market. Holt and Housh were both in demand by multiple teams and Harrison didn't want to play for veterans minimum. Roy is younger than all of those. Chad Ochocinco wants out and the Bengals are not even willing to put him out there.

Draft picks have more value now then they do in the middle of the season. So I can understand why its hard for teams to part ways with them.

A 1st and a 3rd is what teams expect because thats what we traded for a #1 WR. Don't see how its plausible to say we overpaid unless the market says we are wrong.

If he comes out and plays badly, yes we overpaid. But just because the Cards cant find someone doesn't mean we overpaid. Maybe the cards aren't really interested in trades or negotiating. Maybe they just want their disgruntled WR to feel that there is no market for him.

 

[Boom]

I really do hope it works with Roy Williams and feel he's better than he was able to show last season.

But given the apparent 'going rate' for veteran receivers, it sure looks like Dallas overpaid.

And this is from a guy who was all for making the deal.

Concerning the 'going rate', I've read/heard quite a few remarks from NFL people about how draft pick value changes throughout the year. Jerry has repeatedly stated that right now draft picks have the highest value, whereas they are worth less during the year. Whether everyone has that same mindset I don't know, but it could be a factor in why Arizona isn't getting the same interest as we gave Detroit for Roy.

Dallas may well have overpaid, but it may not be solely because Boldin isn't getting the same attention right now.

 

[DCBoysfan]

Better there than having to face him twice a year!

Amen brother

 

[SMCowboy]

This has nothing to do with Marvin Harrison so I don't know why he'd be brought up.

It has to do with Arizona asking for the same thing Detroit got for Roy Williams and not getting it.

Arizona sees a 1st and 3rd round pick as the 'going rate' for a young Pro Bowl receiver because that's what Dallas paid.

But, unlike the Cowboys, nobody else is willing to pay that rate.

I don't think him going for a second rounder would embarrass the Cowboys any more than the rest of the league not being willing to pay what the Cowboys did has shown.

30 other teams are apparently unwilling to pay what the Cowboys did.

That says something to me.

First, the only mention I have seen about what the Cards are asking is media speculation that since we got Roy Williams for a 1 and a 3, that the Cards were asking for a 1 and a 3. But, I have yet to see a report where what the Cards are definately asking for is set. Maybe the reason he isn't getting traded is because the Cards are wanting 2 #1's, we really don't know....

 

[DFWJC]

That's the word here today, deal in the works to keep Boldin a Cardinal.

Great news...hopefully it happens.
We will have dodged a bullet