BPs brief response about TOs new found happiness

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InmanRoshi;1830707 said:
Somebody call the Waahhbulance.

This is amazing. We once had a 60+ year old man who couldn't refer to a player by his original name who had the audacity to question another person's immaturity who's half his age?

Boy, I didn't think the pot could be blacker than the kettle.

I appreciate what BP did for this team, in terms of building a team and instilling a strong organizational influence. But, his treatment of TO was far from profressional from the start.
 

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Two egotistical men going at it.

BP didn't want to give much recognition to TO when he was coaching him. By refusing to call him by his name, BP essentially stripped TO of his individuality. BP did that to TO and TO alone, he didn't do that to anybody else on the team from what i can remember.

Now TO is refusing to give that much credit to BP, or rather he is defending his current coach who is treating him like an individual and a play maker, by consistently giving him praise for what he has done at the expense of the recognition that BP deserves for what he has done for the organization while he was here.

This is going to be interesting to watch as it keeps unfolding................

ding, ding, ding, ........................ round 3
 

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cstanton1987;1830090 said:
Yeah because calling a man out of his name is conducive to a working environment. You don't see a problem with objectifying a person as anything less than a human being and only viewing them as "the player" and not as Terrel Owens...

Landry never got close to the players, rarely called them by their names (and often times got their names wrong when he tried) and didn't bother to get to know most of them.

They were players to him. That's all.

I think Parcells had a genuine affection for some of his guys.

Parcells and Owens just didn't work, simple as that. Neither one of them are for everyone.
 

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mickgreen58;1830755 said:
Disagree.

I have met a good number of wildly successful folks and they don't bring a huge self absored personality to the table.

You would think they would both be humble given their background. Heck, Keyshawn was homeless at one point in his life.

They are what they are.

Successful does not mean 60,000 fans chanting your name, and cheering everytime you touch the ball... Nor does successful mean advertising yourself for potential sponsorship where millions of dollars are at stake...

if you think this league isn't full of 99 percent ego-driven maniacs, than our fooling yourself... the only reason we are speaking about T.O. and not a player like Portis, is because T.O. leads the league in yards, has plenty of TDs, and Dallas is 12-1.... Portis is having an above average year...
 

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ethiostar;1829336 said:
Here we go. Bill Parcells was on Sports Radio 950 in Philly this morning, and the hosts brought up the fact that Terrell Owens is "happier" now that he's out from under Tuna's thumb.
"Tell him there’s two people happier," Parcells said.
Following some laughter, Parcells added that "It’s what it is and it’s not changing." So I guess we can consider T.O. off the invite list for this spring in Saratoga.

Does this put to rest the "Bill wanted T.O. in Dallas" delusions so many Cowboys fans held dearly? ;)
 

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The Parcells homers have to defend him to the last breadth, because last year, it was all about how his players weren't executing, and they were obviously the one's that sucked. They invested so much in it. From Marcus Spears to an aging T.O.

Now, Wade is here, and the team is 12-1, and those same players are ironically "executing". T.O. is having a monster year, drawing constant double and triple teams, and Witten just had a Tight End performance that went down for the ages.

Now, all of the sudden, it's Parcells team... despite last year, the players just sucked and couldn't execute...

It tells a whole lot when, not just T.O., but players like Jason ferguson and Bradie James, who are Bill Parcells guys, saying that the philopshy of Parcells wasn't working. And the key word is philosophy. And Parcells does not change philosophy, meaning they weren't going to make any progress with Bill Parcells at the helm...
 

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tyke1doe;1831047 said:
Does this put to rest the "Bill wanted T.O. in Dallas" delusions so many Cowboys fans held dearly? ;)

It is funny, because people miss the subtlety. That pretty much is implicit admittance that the reason Witten is catching 15 balls, and Patrick Crayton is doing well, and Romo has all these targets to check down to, is NOT because of Bill Parcells, but because of Jerry Jones.. Bill didn't want T.O.... Jerry did...

Who on this team would have drawn the double and triple teams, if T.O. wasn't here? A Terry Glenn with banged up knees?
 

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tyke1doe;1831047 said:
Does this put to rest the "Bill wanted T.O. in Dallas" delusions so many Cowboys fans held dearly? ;)

khiladi;1831059 said:
is NOT because of Bill Parcells, but because of Jerry Jones.. Bill didn't want T.O.... Jerry did...


Does that speak volumes on the Parcells mindset? He put the "Parcells legendary coach" ahead of the organization.

He should have thought of TO as a way to get that last SB on the way out... but HE made it bigger than TO. His response to getting TO could have easily been "we got TO now and we are gonna make a serious run here"

but no... he started playing games.... he actualyy fudged Jerry... he didnt give his all in last season... just took the money
 

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SultanOfSix;1830848 said:
This is amazing. We once had a 60+ year old man who couldn't refer to a player by his original name who had the audacity to question another person's immaturity who's half his age?

Boy, I didn't think the pot could be blacker than the kettle.

I appreciate what BP did for this team, in terms of building a team and instilling a strong organizational influence. But, his treatment of TO was far from profressional from the start.
Funny, Parcell's never had a Problem with L.T.'s antics, how about that Monday Nite game where he was caught on Camera doing Coke on the Sidelines?, Not a peep!.
 

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You know, maybe Parcells has some justification for being 'upset' with how things went in his tenure with TO...Maybe there were things that TO deserved in terms of criticism etc. but these recent revelations and musings from BP simply sounds like bitterness...And for someone who has accomplished as much as he has, you'd think bitterness would be beneath him...Shame...But, yeah, he should simply let it go.
 
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03EBZ06;1829342 said:
Man, I can't believe all these harpings from BP, TO, and Key...Let it go and move on.


yeah, in a 12-1 season with a HFA and SB berth on the to-do list, i can't believe stuff like this is getting play...
 

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YoMick;1831079 said:
He should have thought of TO as a way to get that last SB on the way out... but HE made it bigger than TO. His response to getting TO could have easily been "we got TO now and we are gonna make a serious run here"

Oh, I agree.

I didn't want T.O. on the Cowboys. But once he signed on the dotted line, it was Bill's duty to use him properly.

I don't know why it bothers me so, but how in the WORLD you don't attack the Seahawks secondary with two guys who were signed off the street is beyond me and shows how stubborn Parcells was.

There's NO WAY the Romo bobble should have happened. We should have blown that team out, especially with T.O., Glenn and Witten in the line up.

That game right there told me all I needed to know about Parcell's approach.
 

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AmishCowboy;1831091 said:
Funny, Parcell's never had a Problem with L.T.'s antics, how about that Monday Nite game where he was caught on Camera doing Coke on the Sidelines?, Not a peep!.

In defense of Parcells, he simply made a joke.

I haven't heard Parcells bash T.O. as a commentator.

His comment was innocuous though revealing.
 

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burmafrd;1829433 said:
This is all BS. Lets face it= TO was testing BP last year, and BP would not play the game.

One hundred percent correct. Kind of imature of owens.
 

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JPM;1829647 said:
I doubt PB is waiting for Dallas to fail. He genuinely likes Romo and I'm pretty sure he wants him to succeed. I know Romo still speaks fondly of Bill.

I agree he likes Tony but would add there are many players he liked on this team. He has also said he thought owens was a good person. I would bet there were many coaches hoping their GM wouldn't speak of signing owens after the Philly problems.

JJ simply rolled the dice and won, so far.
 

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Dave_in-NC;1831172 said:
One hundred percent correct. Kind of imature of owens.



Disagreed.


IF that was the case.... BILL being the Head Coach and brought in to WIN playoff games should have handled it better.... maybe even a sitdown with Owens... but he didnt.

Bill was brought in to win.
TO was brought in to help that.

Bill chose Bill. Period.
 

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tyke1doe;1831159 said:
There's NO WAY the Romo bobble should have happened. We should have blown that team out, especially with T.O., Glenn and Witten in the line up.

That game right there told me all I needed to know about Parcell's approach.


Yeah... I felt the same way... we should have been up by 10 at that point and that FG would have made it 13... and even we missed... they would have been down 2 scores.

For all the good that Parcells did... he has some bad.. . bad that was probably avoidable. But Bill chose Bill.
 

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YoMick;1831079 said:
Does that speak volumes on the Parcells mindset? He put the "Parcells legendary coach" ahead of the organization.

He should have thought of TO as a way to get that last SB on the way out... but HE made it bigger than TO. His response to getting TO could have easily been "we got TO now and we are gonna make a serious run here"

but no... he started playing games.... he actualyy fudged Jerry... he didnt give his all in last season... just took the money

Ya think maybe Parcells like 99% of the rest of the country, thought owens would act just like he did on his other two teams? And that could be the reason he didn't want him here?

A young team like we have would have been destroyed by owens if he didn't clean his act up. Parcells invested a lot of himself in Dallas, it just wasn't a chance he wanted to take. Most people wouldn't blame him.

If owens had acted up you same Parcells bashers would be saying it was Parcells who wanted him here not Jones.
 

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YoMick;1831181 said:
Disagreed.


IF that was the case.... BILL being the Head Coach and brought in to WIN playoff games should have handled it better.... maybe even a sitdown with Owens... but he didnt.

Bill was brought in to win.
TO was brought in to help that.

Bill chose Bill. Period.

Yeah he needed the money:rolleyes:

Maybe, just maybe the way Parcells handled owens is why owens made a bit of a turn around. You know like the spoiled kid who soon figures out if no one cares about his bull crap he doesn't get attention, so he stops the bull crap.
 
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