Brace yourself for a Pickens holdout

[CowboyStar88]

The hate GP gets is ridiculous. 24 years old, at the top of his game- this is the guy you sign to a huge contract. Please get it done Jerry!

Hopefully he will get it done. I don’t have a lot of faith in Jerry and how he drags these things out. So we shall see, but I don’t see GP going anywhere for 3-4 years.

 

[buybuydandavis]

I don't know how it all shakes out but I believe that no matter how long he is here his best season in Dallas will always be 2025. That is my prediction.

Most likely.

He had gotten dumped by his team and was in a contract year. We got the best behavior out of him that he had to give. And teams probably took a while to realize he was a legit WR and cover him accordingly, especially with Ceedee opposite him.

 

[kramskoi]

No one’s denies his talent. But we got him because a team who seen that same talent didn’t want him. And if you watch him in games this year, a couple games he played disinterested. That concerns me when you sign a guy long term because you have no leverage if a player decides not to give it his all

Maybe we shouldn't worry so much about what talking media heads have to say. This whole "disinterested" narrative is so overblown. The same thing was said about Randy Moss and Terrell Owens. Both hall of fame players. These men are human. They are not going to give 100% every single play...from a cognitive standpoint. That's too much to ask of any WR. There is simply too much happening in the ebb and flow of a game. Moreover, if a DC wants to erase a WR from a play then there are ways to do just that. It happened to Irvin many times. You can't just do what you want on a football field against a team that is determined not to let you beat them.

So without Pickens, who is gonna ball when Lamb gets doubled in games? The Cowboy should NOT make the same mistake they made with Amari Cooper for a FOURTH TIME. Owens, Bryant...Cooper. In all cases, the WR group regressed the following year.

 

[NDGAEDE]

We've seen this story so many times. Last year set a new precedent though that the Joneses can F contracts up beyond your wildest imagination.

It's so funny that--according to Jerry and Stephen--we traded Parsons so we could 'afford Pickens', but there's close to zero chance we actually pay him.

 

[Flamma]

This is pure ignorance. The players lay their actual LIFE on the line!!

Show me an owner that looks like Daryl Stingley as a result of sitting in the owner's box?

Show me an owner that looks like Mike Utley as a result of sitting in the owner's box?

Show me an owner that looks like Ryan Shazier as a result of sitting in the owner's box?

I could go on and on

Not a single player has to do it. They're not heroes. They do it because they either like playing football, or do it for the money. If they didn't play, no one would care ,and it wouldn't have a negative impact on anyone. They do this for themselves, and themselves only.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

Not a single player has to do it. They're not heroes. They do it because they either like playing football, or do it for the money. If they didn't play, no one would care ,and it wouldn't have a negative impact on anyone. They do this for themselves, and themselves only.

Another ignorant take.
Who do you think the owners do it for? The fans? Laughable!!!!

Do you spend your hard earned money to go to a football game to look at the lines on the field? Or maybe you go to look at the owners in their box ...and together the both of you attend to look at the yard markers on the field?

It is a partnership....but you and others like you don't seem to view it that way. But like I said...there is no actual game without players on the field. Unless of course you think we all show up everyday in this forum to discuss, assess, analyze the jones family.

 

[DuncanIso]

Most likely.

He had gotten dumped by his team and was in a contract year. We got the best behavior out of him that he had to give. And teams probably took a while to realize he was a legit WR and cover him accordingly, especially with Ceedee opposite him.

Detroit game...off meds

 

[DuncanIso]

We've seen this story so many times. Last year set a new precedent though that the Joneses can F contracts up beyond your wildest imagination.

It's so funny that--according to Jerry and Stephen--we traded Parsons so we could 'afford Pickens', but there's close to zero chance we actually pay him.

Can’t pay GP more than CD

And GP and his agent want mega $$$$

 

[Flamma]

Another ignorant take.
Who do you think the owners do it for? The fans? Laughable!!!!

Do you spend your hard earned money to go to a football game to look at the lines on the field? Or maybe you go to look at the owners in their box ...and together the both of you attend to look at the yard markers on the field?

It is a partnership....but you and others like you don't seem to view it that way. But like I said...there is no actual game without players on the field. Unless of course you think we all show up everyday in this forum to discuss, assess, analyze the jones family.

I don't know what you're trying to convey. The owners bring us the game, the players play. The owners bring us a Walmart, the people work the lanes. Without the owners of each, we don't have either. I understand how it works, I've been a union member for over 25 years. I would never even consider working for a non union job. But none of us are heroes. We don't do anything for the public but work a job or entertain. We sacrifice nothing for anyone. I don't care if these guys sacrifice their health to make a ton of money. Don't play. I'm a toll collector, I can get robbed, and maybe killed at any time in my job. I don't expect a garland of roses. I do the job knowing the risks.

 

[Shannon1]

He is coming off a rookie contract, can’t afford to set out ! If he gets the franchise tag it will be a significant raise !

 

[KingCorcoran]

Can’t pay GP more than CD

And GP and his agent want mega $$$$

So would you if you were him or his agent. And you can pay him more than CeeDee. Pickens’ contract is none of Lamb’s business. It’s between George and the Cowboys.

 

[Loso86]

Brace yourself for a Pickens Extension

 

[Relayer]

You have the nerve to say the owners are the only ones to lay it all on the line

I'm not going to go back and find it. Maybe there's a typo in my post. What I said, or meant to say, was the owners laid it all on the line, as in past tense, when they got into the league. It's different now with these owners groups, but that's not how it started. Even back when Jerry got into the league he was literally risking it all. Players have historically come in with their sneakers and a dream, everything to gain and nothing to lose. The players are and have been free to start their own league if they believe they are so hard done.

 

[charron]

I would never be scared a player holds out. Pickens could sit out all camp and start day 1 no problem. And let's say he holds out when the NFL starts, that's fine it got nothing. Not sure if trust him on a big deal either but I am a fan of choices. Either tag or a team friendly deal that they can get out of if he acts a fool.

 

[NDGAEDE]

Can’t pay GP more than CD

And GP and his agent want mega $$$$

Then they need to quit lying like it's something they want to do. Franchise him, trade him and get it over with.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Can’t pay GP more than CD

And GP and his agent want mega $$$$

Why cant you? I'd be tempted to offer Pickens Lamb money on the AAV to satisfy his ego, but then go significantly lower on the guaranteed portion. Seems like a win/win to me and probably the type of deal Pickens would get on the open market.

 

[conner01]

Maybe we shouldn't worry so much about what talking media heads have to say. This whole "disinterested" narrative is so overblown. The same thing was said about Randy Moss and Terrell Owens. Both hall of fame players. These men are human. They are not going to give 100% every single play...from a cognitive standpoint. That's too much to ask of any WR. There is simply too much happening in the ebb and flow of a game. Moreover, if a DC wants to erase a WR from a play then there are ways to do just that. It happened to Irvin many times. You can't just do what you want on a football field against a team that is determined not to let you beat them.

So without Pickens, who is gonna ball when Lamb gets doubled in games? The Cowboy should NOT make the same mistake they made with Amari Cooper for a FOURTH TIME. Owens, Bryant...Cooper. In all cases, the WR group regressed the following year.

Having a game you get shut out is not the same as a game you loaded around all day. It’s not about talking heads, you can see it

 

[Floatyworm]

The last thing this team needs is another long, protracted, acrimonious contract negotiation.

The dumb thing is that their trade for Pickens worked, and this reality was one of the possible outcomes when they made the move to acquire him.

So pay him, trade him, or let him walk. It isn’t rocket science. He certainly has earned a pay day. If it’s too rich for the FO considering the needs on D— then tag and trade him or let him walk.

The fact that these situations inevitably breakdown into some goofy, awkward, and exhausting melodrama is a testament to just how incompetent and irresponsible this FO is when it comes to basic football operations

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

I don't know what you're trying to convey. The owners bring us the game, the players play. The owners bring us a Walmart, the people work the lanes. Without the owners of each, we don't have either. I understand how it works, I've been a union member for over 25 years. I would never even consider working for a non union job. But none of us are heroes. We don't do anything for the public but work a job or entertain. We sacrifice nothing for anyone. I don't care if these guys sacrifice their health to make a ton of money. Don't play. I'm a toll collector, I can get robbed, and maybe killed at any time in my job. I don't expect a garland of roses. I do the job knowing the risks.

You are late to the discussion. The original poster said the owners are the only ones that laid it ALL on the line and the players just showed up without a pot to pee in after the owners built it. And i strongly disagree. The players are literally risking life and limb. No one forced the owners to invest in the sport, and no one forces the players to play. They equally have risk and benefit.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

I'm not going to go back and find it. Maybe there's a typo in my post. What I said, or meant to say, was the owners laid it all on the line, as in past tense, when they got into the league. It's different now with these owners groups, but that's not how it started. Even back when Jerry got into the league he was literally risking it all. Players have historically come in with their sneakers and a dream, everything to gain and nothing to lose. The players are and have been free to start their own league if they believe they are so hard done.

The players have nothing to lose? Are you 12?