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How about the play Bradie James made against a Texans where he had a tackle for a six-yard loss on a running play. He met the RB deep in the backfield. Overall, I think James is playing much better this preseason than he did last year. What does everyone else think?

Do you think this defensive scheme is better suited to James abilities?
 

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lurkercowboy;1610561 said:
How about the play Bradie James made against a Texans where he had a tackle for a six-yard loss on a running play. He met the RB deep in the backfield. Overall, I think James is playing much better this preseason than he did last year. What does everyone else think?

Do you think this defensive scheme is better suited to James abilities?

I agree that James has made some good plays, and has looked good overall.

But isn't it a bit early to say he is better than he was last year?

Let's wait until 3-4 regular season games.
 

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I think the scheme is LESS suited for his abilities.

That tackle was nice, but if the RG had half a brain he would of blocked James (he decided to block the NG who was already being blocked).


And I'm not really excited about a player that celebrates like he won the superbowl after allowing a 10 yard gain just cuz he hit the guy real hard (a few plays before the run).


I think he'll be better then last year, but I also still think Burnett and/or Carp will take his job at some point this season.
 

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I think we should be more concerned with Newman not playing and the total void of cb talent behind him. :laugh1:
 

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Rack;1610568 said:
I think the scheme is LESS suited for his abilities.

That tackle was nice, but if the RG had half a brain he would of blocked James (he decided to block the NG who was already being blocked).


And I'm not really excited about a player that celebrates like he won the superbowl after allowing a 10 yard gain just cuz he hit the guy real hard (a few plays before the run).


I think he'll be better then last year, but I also still think Burnett and/or Carp will take his job at some point this season.
Actually the RG could not have possibly blocked James. Spears shot the gap between the RT and RG, who both were blocking him. The RT was the one that could have blocked him; however, at the snap, the RG immediately blocked down, leading me to believe it was the RG's assignment to block Spears. Only after the NT shot the gap between the Center and the LG did the RG adjust back out to help block Spears. By this time, Bradie was pushing through the LOS.

Also, James was stacked directly over Spears, so the tackle couldn't see him very well. James shot the gap so quickly that the RT couldn't adjust when he did see him. Other than using his speed to get there so quickly, there wasn't much to credit James for on the play, though. It was just a very well designed play that worked perfectly for the blocking assignments the linemen happened to have on that play.
 

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Rack;1610568 said:
And I'm not really excited about a player that celebrates like he won the superbowl after allowing a 10 yard gain just cuz he hit the guy real hard (a few plays before the run).

I thought this team needed a little more fire and attitude:confused:
 

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theogt;1610648 said:
Actually the RG could not have possibly blocked James. Spears shot the gap between the RT and RG, who both were blocking him. The RT was the one that could have blocked him; however, at the snap, the RG immediately blocked down, leading me to believe it was the RG's assignment to block Spears. Only after the NT shot the gap between the Center and the LG did the RG adjust back out to help block Spears. By this time, Bradie was pushing through the LOS.

Also, James was stacked directly over Spears, so the tackle couldn't see him very well. James shot the gap so quickly that the RT couldn't adjust when he did see him. Other than using his speed to get there so quickly, there wasn't much to credit James for on the play, though. It was just a very well designed play that worked perfectly for the blocking assignments the linemen happened to have on that play.


Watch the play again. Spears had ZERO effect on the RG. The RG thought he was supposed to block down on the NG and that's what opened up that huge lane for James to run through.
The RG didn't even look Spears' way.
 

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L-O-Jete;1610652 said:
I thought this team needed a little more fire and attitude:confused:

That's fine. Celebrate when you actually stop the offense, not after they got a first down (or close to it).
 

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Rack;1610698 said:
Watch the play again. Spears had ZERO effect on the RG. The RG thought he was supposed to block down on the NG and that's what opened up that huge lane for James to run through.
The RG didn't even look Spears' way.
You must be thinking of the wrong play. I just watched it. James shot through the hole between the RT and the TE.
 

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theogt;1610702 said:
You must be thinking of the wrong play. I just watched it. James shot through the hole between the RT and the TE.

I think you're thinking of the wrong play cuz the one I'm thinking of he definitely didn't shoot between the TE and RT.


I'm talking about the one he came through unblocked and totally killed the RB in the backfield.
 

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The play.

Looks like theogt is right.



Also, I think Bradie is more suited for a defense like Wade's, running downhill instead of retreating. He's not athletic enough for the retreat and cover game.

Secondarily, I hate his asinine celebrations. For goodness sakes...Owen Daniels caught the ball for a 9 yard gain.
 

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superpunk;1610712 said:
The play.

Looks like theogt is right.



Also, I think Bradie is more suited for a defense like Wade's, running downhill instead of retreating. He's not athletic enough for the retreat and cover game.

Secondarily, I hate his asinine celebrations. For goodness sakes...Owen Daniels caught the ball for a 9 yard gain.



That's not the play.


Edit: NM, the play was further in. I was right, only that it was the RT that screwed up, not the RG. The RT came down so far inside I thought he was the RG.

Semantics, point is a lineman just completely screwed up (which will probably happen often this year with this scheme).
 

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Rack;1610700 said:
That's fine. Celebrate when you actually stop the offense, not after they got a first down (or close to it).
you just don't like bradie james. the threadstarter is talking about the play he made for a 6 yard loss yet you bring up another play.
 

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Thanks for putting the play online. The scheme looks like it is designed to cause confusion in the offensive linemen and James looks like he has the speed now to take advantage. He seems to be moving faster since has lost weight.
 
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Rack;1610568 said:
I think the scheme is LESS suited for his abilities.

That tackle was nice, but if the RG had half a brain he would of blocked James (he decided to block the NG who was already being blocked).


And I'm not really excited about a player that celebrates like he won the superbowl after allowing a 10 yard gain just cuz he hit the guy real hard (a few plays before the run).


I think he'll be better then last year, but I also still think Burnett and/or Carp will take his job at some point this season.

You're joking right? James has been one of Wade's favorite players... He looks like a totally different player under this scheme.
 

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Rack;1610715 said:
That's not the play.


Edit: NM, the play was further in. I was right, only that it was the RT that screwed up, not the RG. The RT came down so far inside I thought he was the RG.

Semantics, point is a lineman just completely screwed up (which will probably happen often this year with this scheme).
The RT came down inside because Spears shot that gap. He was only doing his job -- blocking Spears. That's simply an advantage of the 1-gap system. You can dictate what the offensive line does, which makes these sorts of blitzes actually work.
 

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superpunk;1610712 said:
Secondarily, I hate his asinine celebrations. For goodness sakes...Owen Daniels caught the ball for a 9 yard gain.
But it sure did look like Daniels had alligator hands when he dropped the ball the next time he ran that exact same route.
 

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Rack;1610715 said:
That's not the play.


Edit: NM, the play was further in. I was right, only that it was the RT that screwed up, not the RG. The RT came down so far inside I thought he was the RG.

Semantics, point is a lineman just completely screwed up (which will probably happen often this year with this scheme).

I don't think it was semantics, you were pretty specific that "Spears had ZERO effect on the RG". But anywho, I don't think any of their linemen screwed up. That defensive play was designed to put 4 rushers on 3 blockers, and create a gap for Brady or a lane for one of the down linemen or Spencer. If it was a passing play, no doubt the back would have tried to pick Bradie up, but I don't think you can blame the RG. Just a good playcall, and good execution.

theogt;1610728 said:
But it sure did look like Daniels had alligator hands when he dropped the ball the next time he ran that exact same route.

That's good. But it still isn't rationalization for celebrating that you just allowed a 9 yard completion. (Not James, but the team). I think Roy was giving him the kill sign at the end...."he caught the ball, dude"
 

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superpunk;1610735 said:
I don't think it was semantics, you were pretty specific that "Spears had ZERO effect on the RG". But anywho, I don't think any of their linemen screwed up. That defensive play was designed to put 4 rushers on 3 blockers, and create a gap for Brady or a lane for one of the down linemen or Spencer. If it was a passing play, no doubt the back would have tried to pick Bradie up, but I don't think you can blame the RG. Just a good playcall, and good execution.



That's good. But it still isn't rationalization for celebrating that you just allowed a 9 yard completion. (Not James, but the team). I think Roy was giving him the kill sign at the end...."he caught the ball, dude"


I dont think James knew he caught the ball.
 

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I guess there's a thin line between being a vocal, hard-hitting leader and being a tool for celebrating too much. I'm often confused as to why either is necessary.
 
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