Bradie Vs Akin

[Bleed Blue]

Where is the seperation for you because the stats are close.

 

[gimmesix]

Where is the seperation for you because the stats are close.

Akin's tackle stats should be higher because he is playing the Jack position, what Parcells said last year is the high-tackle spot.

But Ayodele had to learn a new scheme and really seems to be picking up his performances.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Akin's tackle stats should *not* be as high as Bradie's. I could go into the position details, but in essence Bradie is meant to play coverage as well and when we are in the nickel, we take Akin out of the game, so Bradie gets more snaps.

They play two positions that ask for different things, but I actually think Akin has been playing better than Bradie the past 5 weeks or so.


YAKUZA

 

[gimmesix]

Akin's tackle stats should *not* be as high as Bradie's. I could go into the position details, but in essence Bradie is meant to play coverage as well and when we are in the nickel, we take Akin out of the game, so Bradie gets more snaps.

They play two positions that ask for different things, but I actually think Akin has been playing better than Bradie the past 5 weeks or so.


YAKUZA

Yeah, I hadn't considered the nickel, which would add to James' numbers.

But, last year when Nguyen was the Jack linebacker, Parcells said he put him there because it was the top tackle position on the defense because teams often leave the Jack linebacker unaccounted for by offensive linemen.

James' position calls for him to take on blockers. Akin's position calls for him to run to the ball. So I still believe Akin's numbers should be higher.

 

[AdamJT13]

Ayodele was quiet early in the season, but he has been making some big plays lately -- the sack against Carolina, a fumble recovery against Washington, the interception against Arizona and a huge tackle for loss near the goal line right before Roy's interception against the Colts (a play that was created by Bobby Carpenter, by the way).

And Rich is right about the tackle numbers. I broke it down in a thread a week or two ago, and Ayodele DOES make more tackles than James when he is in the game. But he gets taken out in the nickel, when Burnett comes in. James gets a lot of his tackles in passing situations.

 

[gimmesix]

Ayodele was quiet early in the season, but he has been making some big plays lately -- the sack against Carolina, a fumble recovery against Washington, the interception against Arizona and a huge tackle for loss near the goal line right before Roy's interception against the Colts (a play that was created by Bobby Carpenter, by the way).

And Rich is right about the tackle numbers. I broke it down in a thread a week or two ago, and Ayodele DOES make more tackles than James when he is in the game. But he gets taken out in the nickel, when Burnett comes in. James gets a lot of his tackles in passing situations.

I agree with both of you that Ayodele has come on. In fact, I believe Parcells said something to that extent.

For a few weeks, I didn't notice him making plays, was impatient and wanted Dallas to give Carpenter a shot. Ayodele has shown the past few weeks that I needed to be patient and give him a chance to get used to this scheme.

Also, thanks guys on the tackle numbers. It's good to know he's making more than James when he is in the game. That's what he's supposed to do in this scheme.

 

[AdamJT13]

Here are those numbers, according to STATS Inc. --

FIRST DOWNS
Ayodele 28 (20 solo)
James 24 (16 solo)

SECOND DOWNS
Ayodele 21 (16 solo)
James 21 (14 solo)

THIRD/FOURTH DOWNS
James 14 (9 solo)
Ayodele 2 (1 solo)

TOTAL
James 59 (39 solo)
Ayodele 51 (37 solo)

AFTER COMPLETED PASSES
James 21 (14 solo)
Ayodele 13 (9 solo)

ON RUNNING PLAYS
Ayodele 38 (28 solo)
James 38 (25 solo)

Considering that Ayodele is removed when we go to the nickel (most often on third downs, sometimes on second or even first), the numbers are about right for him.

 

[gimmesix]

Considering that Ayodele is removed when we go to the nickel (most often on third downs, sometimes on second or even first), the numbers are about right for him.

I'm probably too demanding considering Ayodele isn't in on third downs, but I would still like to see the player playing the Jack position top 100 total tackles ... and it doesn't appear Akin is on that pace.

But again, he gets cut a little slack for this being his first year in the scheme and making the move to the inside.

 

[AdamJT13]

I'm probably too demanding considering Ayodele isn't in on third downs, but I would still like to see the player playing the Jack position top 100 total tackles ... and it doesn't appear Akin is on that pace.

He's on pace for 98, according to the coaches' stats.

 

[gimmesix]

He's on pace for 98, according to the coaches' stats.

I was wondering what the coaches' totals were, since they always differ from other stat keepers.

 

[AdamJT13]

I was wondering what the coaches' totals were, since they always differ from other stat keepers.

They have James for 36 solo and 38 assists for 74 total; Ayodele has 32 solo and 29 assists for 61 total.

 

[kmd24]

but I would still like to see the player playing the Jack position top 100 total tackles

One thing to consider in adjusting your expectations is that Dallas is on pace to face about 60 fewer plays than the average defense.

 

[theogt]

They have James for 36 solo and 38 assists for 74 total; Ayodele has 32 solo and 29 assists for 61 total.

Where are you getting the coaches' totals?

 

[kiheikiwi]

Was talking to a buddy as we watched the game on sunday, I said to him "Doesn't Akin remind you of Singilton? Just quietly goes about his job.Does not always stand out during the game - but when you look back at it, is a very solid player that we are lucky to have". Then he goes and makes a big play!

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Both LB's are playing good football!

 

[dffl11]

Here are those numbers, according to STATS Inc. --

FIRST DOWNS
Ayodele 28 (20 solo)
James 24 (16 solo)

SECOND DOWNS
Ayodele 21 (16 solo)
James 21 (14 solo)

THIRD/FOURTH DOWNS
James 14 (9 solo)
Ayodele 2 (1 solo)

TOTAL
James 59 (39 solo)
Ayodele 51 (37 solo)

AFTER COMPLETED PASSES
James 21 (14 solo)
Ayodele 13 (9 solo)

ON RUNNING PLAYS
Ayodele 38 (28 solo)
James 38 (25 solo)

Considering that Ayodele is removed when we go to the nickel (most often on third downs, sometimes on second or even first), the numbers are about right for him.

where do you find such broken down stats? I would love to have access to some stats other then the basic nfl.com, espn.com... ect....

 

[AdamJT13]

where do you find such broken down stats? I would love to have access to some stats other then the basic nfl.com, espn.com... ect....

Those are from msn.FoxSports.com. ESPN.com probably has the same splits.

 

[dffl11]

Those are from msn.FoxSports.com. ESPN.com probably has the same splits.

oh ok, i didnt know that those sits had detailed splits like that. thanks.

 

[K-DOGG]

I think Akin has had more tackles the last two games than he had the entire season! Glad he finally decided to show up for the party!!:starspin

 

[Clove]

Let's be glad we have to really really good ILBs, compared to last year when we had little from Shanle.