Brady may get suspended afterall...

[Yakuza Rich]

The NFL and the NFLPA went to court as part of the NFL's appeal. Here's some highlights:

I'm surprised that some members in the media are surprised by this. Regardless if you think Brady cheated or not (I think it's clear as day that he did), Goodell's suspension was within the guidelines of the CBA agreement. Neither the NFL owners or the NFLPA thought thru the punishment guidelines very well because the appeals go thru Goodell.

Judge Berman's authority would be if the NFL wasn't within the punishment guidelines. For example, if Goodell gave Brady a 5-game suspension instead of a 4-game suspension.

If the Patriots lose, I suspect they'll appeal and sue the NFL. But, we'll see.





YR

 

[big dog cowboy]

Regardless if you think Brady cheated or not (I think it's clear as day that he did)

It couldn't be more obvious that Brady cheated IMO.

Thanks for this post as I missed most of the news today.

 

[irishline]

In before...

Regardless if you think Brady cheated or not (I think it's clear as day that he did), Goodell's suspension was within the guidelines of the CBA agreement.

Couldn't agree more.

 

[dogunwo]

A certain someone will be all over this thread in no time. Lol.

 

[Nightman]

Not a good day at all.

I was surprised by the Berman ruling but it seems like he was the outlier or fanboy.

The case seemed pretty open and shut.

I also wonder who is paying for Brady's appeal. How much does he want to waste on this? His recent restructure means he will only lose 200k instead of 2m if suspended for 4 games.

 

[big dog cowboy]

A certain someone will be all over this thread in no time. Lol.

Not likely.

 

[rynochop]

His recent restructure means he will only lose 200k instead of 2m if suspended for 4 games.

Interesting point..hadn't thought of that.

 

[dogunwo]

Not likely.

Oh, I get it

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Not a good day at all.

I was surprised by the Berman ruling but it seems like he was the outlier or fanboy.

The case seemed pretty open and shut.

I also wonder who is paying for Brady's appeal. How much does he want to waste on this? His recent restructure means he will only lose 200k instead of 2m if suspended for 4 games.

He's likely not wasting anything on this. I think the NFLPA handles it. It's a union, so they put money into the union for things like this.





YR

 

[Rockport]

It couldn't be more obvious that Brady cheated IMO.

Thanks for this post as I missed most of the news today.

No doubt he cheated. These days, it just doesn't seem to matter. The new generation is ok with lying, cheating, stealing and just general debauchery. How many of you game players use cheat codes? That's worthy of a thread all by itself except that people would lie to cover up their cheating.

 

[Nightman]

He's likely not wasting anything on this. I think the NFLPA handles it. It's a union, so they put money into the union for things like this.





YR

Kessler is a lot different than your standard union lawyer on retainer and they could still vote on how long to keep this going.

This is not a SCOTUS worthy case. Guys get 4 games for popping a Molly.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

No doubt he cheated. These days, it just doesn't seem to matter. The new generation is ok with lying, cheating, stealing and just general debauchery. How many of you game players use cheat codes? That's worthy of a thread all by itself except that people would lie to cover up their cheating.

That's one of the most glaring issues here. Even by using the Patrionts/Brady's logic of the ideal gas law (which still isn't accurate as a range at lower temps)...they are discussing the average PSI of the footballs measured (11.3) not being statistically significantly below the projected PSI of 11.5.

The issue with that type of logic is that all it takes is for ONE of those footballs to statistically significantly below that projection and that is still cheating. And there were a few footballs measured at that...IIRC, one at 10.5 PSI and one at 10.9 PSI.

It was an obvious PR ploy by the Patriots to try and make their case and the fanboys joined and blind lemmings like Peter King bought it hook, line and sinker. To not understand that their use of the average football PSI means virtually nothing in terms of cheating shows that they really don't care about cheating to begin with.




YR

 

[Nightman]

That's one of the most glaring issues here. Even by using the Patrionts/Brady's logic of the ideal gas law (which still isn't accurate as a range at lower temps)...they are discussing the average PSI of the footballs measured (11.3) not being statistically significantly below the projected PSI of 11.5.

The issue with that type of logic is that all it takes is for ONE of those footballs to statistically significantly below that projection and that is still cheating. And there were a few footballs measured at that...IIRC, one at 10.5 PSI and one at 10.9 PSI.

It was an obvious PR ploy by the Patriots to try and make their case and the fanboys joined and blind lemmings like Peter King bought it hook, line and sinker. To not understand that their use of the average football PSI means virtually nothing in terms of cheating shows that they really don't care about cheating to begin with.




YR

Exactly. Several of the NE balls were well below what even the IGL would allow. Those are supposed to be forgotten. "Ignore the man behind the curtain". The IND balls didn't test anywhere near as low as the NE balls.

Then the texts, the Deflator and Brady destroying his phone.

 

[Denim Chicken]

Too late IMO. No one cares anymore.

 

[landroverking]

It is no longer about PSI. It's about CBA!

 

[JoeyBoy718]

We're still talking about this? It really doesn't matter anymore. It's too late. Brady already caught Montana. Bonds already passed Aaron. You can shower in asterisks if it makes you feel better.

 

[cowboyblue22]

really who cares about it any more its to late that ship has sailed.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

really who cares about it any more its to late that ship has sailed.

Its never too late to confirm the tarnish on the Lombardi's that everybody knows are there. The stains on Monica Lewinsky's dress will forever remain, just like the stains on Brady and Belicheats careers will remain. Its never too late!

 

[Nightman]

Its never too late to confirm the tarnish on the Lombardi's that everybody knows are there. The stains on Monica Lewinsky's dress will forever remain, just like the stains on Brady and Belicheats careers will remain. Its never too late!

Goodell has to fight for the right of the commissioner to punish cheating. Brady is the one dragging it out.

If they let Brady skate it is now a free for all.

Lie, cheat, destroy evidence, do whatever you want and try to find a judge that is a fan.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

Goodell has to fight for the right of the commissioner to punish cheating. Brady is the one dragging it out.

If they let Brady skate it is now a free for all.

Lie, cheat, destroy evidence, do whatever you want and try to find a judge that is a fan.

There are TWO groups that have plead for Brady's & the Cheatriots innocence, Pats Nation & some mediots that want to keep a narrative going and dont want it to die becuz its clicks for them in the future.