Brady Pay Cut - Time To Push All In in 2015

[PhillyCowboysFan]

Please read the following article.

Brady did not take a pay cut and the Patriots DID NOT REDUCE cap space. They needed cash flow and by changing the skills guaranty in Brady's contract, they where able to release $24 million the NFL required them to put in an escrow account to pay off the contract. Again they do not gain cap space at all and Brady really takes a $3 million increase if he is not cut over the next three years. It's just shocking how this is being reported as Saint Brady helping out with cap space.

The following article explains it all.

http://www.ganggreennation.com/2014...ts-extra-3-million-media-fawns-over-sacrifice

 

[xwalker]

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/ar...assive-pay-cut-is-a-brilliant-financial-move/

I know 2014 is still in play. And I have high hopes. But the window is now!

I'm not certain if Brady was at the end of his contract, but...

Is there a way to rework Romo so he takes less and it benefits the team coming into 2015. I said this in another thread, but I believe if this team made some bold moves with the cap, and perhaps franchised Murray, pay Dez and RoMc, and retain Free - along with drafting a DT and DE, they could have a top ten defense, and perhaps top five.

This comes down to money. Because the pieces are in place. I once thought the defense was far off, but am now thinking it needs a pass rush to get the QB off his spot and disrupt the timing of the other guy's passing offense.

Romo is aging. He is playing better than he ever has.

Murray is making a huge difference.

RoMc at the Mike with Lee at the Will and Hitchens at the Sam, or whatever, will be formidable. This defense just needs a little more push at the front four.

This could be 92 and 93 with the right moves.

All in for Six and Seven.

 

[ConstantReboot]

to be fair...A LOT easier to give up some money for 4 guys vs. a team where there are 22 starters.

Who said Romo has to give up money for 22 starters? All he needs to do is take some kind of paycut so we can keep some of our more important players from taking the money and run.

 

[big dog cowboy]

No, I own what I say.

 

[TrailBlazer]

That is the same thing everyone said when he signed the last 3 yr extension. Everyone said there is no way he would play those 3 years for 24m. Technically they are right because he will now get 27m for those 3 years, but that isn't the bump everyone was expecting.

There is no way to get around the fact that Brady is giving back REAL money and SALARY CAP money big time. It is obviously something Brady wants to do help his team for whatever reason, but it is not something that can be expected from anyone else. Especially considering he already has 3 rings and has made a ton of money, on and off the field.

He didn't give back anything

 

[Nightman]

He didn't give back anything

He gave back leverage. The Pats could cut or trade him tomorrow and owe him ZERO and take a 6m cap hit in 2015 and a 12m cap hit in 2016

Before the restructure he was owed/guaranteed 24m and his cap hit if released would have been 13m in 2015 and 29m in 2016

His 2015 salary of 8m doesn't get guaranteed until Week One and as we saw this year, a lot of weird things can happen in a year's time.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Dez and Murray should be the guys wanting to do a team friendly deal but I don't get the sense they will.


I feel good about Jerry willing to let Murray walk if his price gets out of hand.


Our goal going forward needs to be keeping this O-line in tact and build a D-Line that is at that same level.



At times I wish Dez wasn't a top 2 or 3 NFL receiver and more in the 6-10 range so we could save some money there.

Why on earth would they be the ones wanting a team friendly deal? This is their first and probably last big contract they will get in their career. Meanwhile, Romo has had a 60+ million and a 100+ million.

 

[Nightman]

He didn't take a pay cut... he is still gets the same amount of money at the end of his contract plus the bonus for the restructure. He didn't create cap space for the team so I don't know why you think his contract is any more "team friendly". The restructure created more cash flow for the Kraft family not the team.

I don't know why you quoted me because I didn't say any of the things you are arguing against. He created the cap space with the last restructure, this re-do takes away any penalty for cutting or trading him. It gives the team all the leverage, a ton of cash flow and a ton of flexibility, all for a meager 1m bump in salary for 3 years.

If Brady pulled a Ray Rice or Adrian Peterson tomorrow or had a non-football related injury, he would be owed exactly ZERO more dollars from NE. Yesterday he would have been owed 24m. that is a big deal.

No one is making Brady out to be a Saint, but you guys refuse to give him any credit what-so-ever for giving back and giving up things in his contract to help the team.

 

[Nightman]

Why on earth would they be the ones wanting a team friendly deal? This is their first and probably last big contract they will get in their career. Meanwhile, Romo has had a 60+ million and a 100+ million.

Dez and Murray do have to decide if they want to go for every dollar possible or if they want to still get paid, but not break the bank like Romo and TSmith. There should be plenty of cap space after dealing with Carr, Free and Melton, but every dollar counts when you have to re-sign your entire LB core and build a DL.

 

[Bluefin]

Q: Why are teams required to set aside future money when it becomes guaranteed for skill but not when it's guaranteed for injury?

If there's a chance of a career ending injury, and a player is guaranteed money in the event it happens, shouldn't the team be required to set it aside?

I know that the skill guarantee meant Tom Brady was absolutely going to get his $24M and injuries are random and impossible to predict, but if the CBA is designed to make sure players always get money they are due, it seems wrong to make teams set aside the cash for skill guarantees but not injury guarantees.

 

[tico]

Brady did this so the Pats could keep Mankins. That went south real quick.. (To Tampa)

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Dez and Murray do have to decide if they want to go for every dollar possible or if they want to still get paid, but not break the bank like Romo and TSmith. There should be plenty of cap space after dealing with Carr, Free and Melton, but every dollar counts when you have to re-sign your entire LB core and build a DL.

They should go for every dollar. That's the most logical thing to do. These guys have families and you can argue they mean more to this team than anyone else maybe not named Romo. They deserve to be compensated for that. I don't see Romo or Tyron offering pay cuts so why should Dez and Demarco?

 

[joseephuss]

I don't know why you quoted me because I didn't say any of the things you are arguing against. He created the cap space with the last restructure, this re-do takes away any penalty for cutting or trading him. It gives the team all the leverage, a ton of cash flow and a ton of flexibility, all for a meager 1m bump in salary for 3 years.

If Brady pulled a Ray Rice or Adrian Peterson tomorrow or had a non-football related injury, he would be owed exactly ZERO more dollars from NE. Yesterday he would have been owed 24m. that is a big deal.

No one is making Brady out to be a Saint, but you guys refuse to give him any credit what-so-ever for giving back and giving up things in his contract to help the team.

This restructure only creates cap space if Brady is cut or traded. It doesn't create any cap space while he is on the team. I think his cap hit actually goes up $1 million per season than it did before the restructure.

 

[JoeKing]

I don't know why you quoted me because I didn't say any of the things you are arguing against. He created the cap space with the last restructure, this re-do takes away any penalty for cutting or trading him. It gives the team all the leverage, a ton of cash flow and a ton of flexibility, all for a meager 1m bump in salary for 3 years.

If Brady pulled a Ray Rice or Adrian Peterson tomorrow or had a non-football related injury, he would be owed exactly ZERO more dollars from NE. Yesterday he would have been owed 24m. that is a big deal.

No one is making Brady out to be a Saint, but you guys refuse to give him any credit what-so-ever for giving back and giving up things in his contract to help the team.

You need to read the details of his restructure more carefully. He helped the Kraft family money flow problem, not the team.

 

[Insomniac]

Guaranteed money is the big thing with NFL contracts. Brady went from 24m guaranteed to 8m guaranteed. He did this in return for 1m more a year for the next 3 years, but that is still a significant difference.

His contract is still guaranteed for injury but if the team decides to cut him for cap reasons he gets nothing and becomes a FA. If he was cut after this season he almost certainly could get more than $27 mil over the next 3 years so he's not really risking any money. Even with the $1 mil a year addition to his contract his cap hit is ~$3-5 mil under other veteran QBs.

 

[starfrombirth]

I accidentally hit reply and couldn't figure out how to undo it.

 

[Nightman]

They should go for every dollar. That's the most logical thing to do. These guys have families and you can argue they mean more to this team than anyone else maybe not named Romo. They deserve to be compensated for that. I don't see Romo or Tyron offering pay cuts so why should Dez and Demarco?

Romo and TSmith already took less than market value on their deals. No one says Dez and Murray have to give the team a good deal, but if they want to stay and compete for multiple Super Bowls then they should. They will be rich men either way, but with a salary cap, every dollar matters,

 

[Wood]

I was all for Romo taking a pay cut but once you look at how much he has sacrificed his body for this organization not only don't I think he will take pay cut but also don't think he should. Just restructure it and play hard ball with Dez and Murray. Franchise Dez if necessary.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Romo and TSmith already took less than market value on their deals. No one says Dez and Murray have to give the team a good deal, but if they want to stay and compete for multiple Super Bowls then they should. They will be rich men either way, but with a salary cap, every dollar matters,

It sounds good as a fan and granted, its not sports but in the real world no one is taking a pay cut to see their company do better. I don't expect a team friendly deal and with all they have done for us? I don't mind them getting a solid contract.

And i'd hardly consider a 54 million dollar signing bonus taking less than market value. I think what it really comes down to is the guaranteed money they get.

 

[daveferr33]

Sidestepping the debates about Brady, Romo, the Cap, etc. and to address OP's original issue:

I hate the idea of going all in and restructuring contracts to do it. Its Jerry Jones type thinking. Its the type of thinking that got us into the allegedly awful situation Garrett inherited in 2010.

I was against it when I saw Elway do it this offseason as well, and I think they are going to be a quick exit from the post-season and have nothing to show for it.

I say we continue to building through the draft and second tier free agent bin and pay as we go.