Brent and the maryjane

[popp1234]

"Path to recovery"? He isn't a weed addict. Very few people are actually weed addicts since it's not a physically addicting drug.

He's just an idiot who probably didn't know he was going to be drug tested. He knew he couldn't drink so he likely figured he could get away with smoking instead.

I mean his behavior and how his behavior is related to being under the influence...I never said anything about him being addicted to anything. He has gotten into trouble before because of alcohol, yet he lost his best friend due to a large part, him being under the influence of alcohol. Now, he is under the microscope and was apparently told not to use alcohol or drugs. Again, he could not resist and allegedly violated the mandate. This leads me to believe he is not willing or able to restrain himself without forced actions. He needs to be detained for his own good.

 

[Nav22]

That's just not true. There haven't been any studies to back up that claim. When you are impaired, you mind is distracted, reflexes are dulled and reaction times are worse. Smokers may tend to drive slower than drinkers, but the risks are both well beyond any reasonable limit.

Would you want your kid's School Bus driver to be stoned every day?

I didn't say weed doesn't impair drivers, I said it's not nearly as dangerous as driving drunk. And there have been many studies that support this.

Obviously, driving sober is ideal.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

That's just not true. There haven't been any studies to back up that claim. When you are impaired, you mind is distracted, reflexes are dulled and reaction times are worse. Smokers may tend to drive slower than drinkers, but the risks are both well beyond any reasonable limit.

Would you want your kid's School Bus driver to be stoned every day?

Of course not but the level of coordination, balance, vision, etc is much worse for a drunk. While I have seen people so stoned that they fall down, I see 500 drunks for every one of those.

Either is poor choice don't get me wrong but to argue that the risk is equitable is just insane.

 

[Beast_from_East]

So you are on probation waiting for your trial for killing your best friend and you decide to lite up a blount?


Wow, talk about stupid.....................time to cut bait on this guy.

 

[Nightman]

Of course not but the level of coordination, balance, vision, etc is much worse for a drunk. While I have seen people so stoned that they fall down, I see 500 drunks for every one of those.

Either is poor choice don't get me wrong but to argue that the risk is equitable is just insane.

It's all a matter of degrees. Sharing a joint and drinking a beer have minimal impact. But if you are paralyzed drunk or stoned to the beejezus, the difference behind the wheel of a car is irrelevant.

 

[Nirvana]

May have been a surprise to be tested and so he didn't know he would get caught. Under his stress it's not surprising he would want to smoke some weed. Stupid to do this when on probation, but there is some over-reaction here. Let the law take its course and hand out its discipline. I doubt Jerry cuts him over this though, when he didn't before. This ain't the choir team.

 

[WhizKid]

For those curious.

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhI1zrst1q3ll6m42S

My experience dealing with stoned drivers and drunk drivers happened when I was in college in the bay area. Drunk drivers far more confident in their skills and far more likely to take to the road. They also drove very badly.

Stoners got high, but were WAY more aware of the fact that they were stoned and would wait it out before they got on the road.

I would ride into the city across the bridge with folks who were high and I can say with extreme confidence that weed has far less affect on one's driving skills than alcohol. Even being in a car when folks were blazing while driving. Being pulled over for a couple of tail lights with the scent of bud coming out of the driver's window and the officer BOTH times telling us to be careful even though it was obvious someone was smoking. Worked as an RA in the residence halls where I had constant contact with campus PD who told me they never really wrote anyone up for weed because they didn't think it was a big deal.

This is not to say that someone could be a horrible driver while stoned, because it is quite possible and I'm sure it happens, but comparing stoned drivers to drunk drivers is hilarious. Let's just say I've never had to kick my stoner friends' to keep them from getting behind a wheel.

 

[WhizKid]

May have been a surprise to be tested and so he didn't know he would get caught. Under his stress it's not surprising he would want to smoke some weed. Stupid to do this when on probation, but there is some over-reaction here. Let the law take its course and hand out its discipline. I doubt Jerry cuts him over this though, when he didn't before. This ain't the choir team.

That is the main point. When you have this opportunity to play in the NFL, it's the decisions to violate these policies that is annoying and just screams stupid. Although, the action doesn't seem like a big deal, do it when you retire and your body is yearning for pain medication due to playing in the NFL.

 

[sbark]

maybe he was in Colorado...where its legal :bang2:

 

[joseephuss]

That's just not true. There haven't been any studies to back up that claim. When you are impaired, you mind is distracted, reflexes are dulled and reaction times are worse. Smokers may tend to drive slower than drinkers, but the risks are both well beyond any reasonable limit.

Would you want your kid's School Bus driver to be stoned every day?

I thought most school bus drivers were stoned every day. How else do you deal with a bunch of loud, unruly kids?

 

[ufcrules1]

For those curious.

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhI1zrst1q3ll6m42S

My experience dealing with stoned drivers and drunk drivers happened when I was in college in the bay area. Drunk drivers far more confident in their skills and far more likely to take to the road. They also drove very badly.

Stoners got high, but were WAY more aware of the fact that they were stoned and would wait it out before they got on the road.

I would ride into the city across the bridge with folks who were high and I can say with extreme confidence that weed has far less affect on one's driving skills than alcohol. Even being in a car when folks were blazing while driving. Being pulled over for a couple of tail lights with the scent of bud coming out of the driver's window and the officer BOTH times telling us to be careful even though it was obvious someone was smoking. Worked as an RA in the residence halls where I had constant contact with campus PD who told me they never really wrote anyone up for weed because they didn't think it was a big deal.

This is not to say that someone could be a horrible driver while stoned, because it is quite possible and I'm sure it happens, but comparing stoned drivers to drunk drivers is hilarious. Let's just say I've never had to kick my stoner friends' to keep them from getting behind a wheel.

And there you have it from "DA" Whiz kid. Majority of stoners are smarter and better drivers than those who drink. :bang2:

 

[ufcrules1]

looks like a duck, smells like a duck, quacks like a duck, he must be a duck.


just cut him already

Exactly, killing a teammate wasn't enough to move on from him?

 

[Supercowboy1986]

For those curious.

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhI1zrst1q3ll6m42S

My experience dealing with stoned drivers and drunk drivers happened when I was in college in the bay area. Drunk drivers far more confident in their skills and far more likely to take to the road. They also drove very badly.

Stoners got high, but were WAY more aware of the fact that they were stoned and would wait it out before they got on the road.

I would ride into the city across the bridge with folks who were high and I can say with extreme confidence that weed has far less affect on one's driving skills than alcohol. Even being in a car when folks were blazing while driving. Being pulled over for a couple of tail lights with the scent of bud coming out of the driver's window and the officer BOTH times telling us to be careful even though it was obvious someone was smoking. Worked as an RA in the residence halls where I had constant contact with campus PD who told me they never really wrote anyone up for weed because they didn't think it was a big deal.

This is not to say that someone could be a horrible driver while stoned, because it is quite possible and I'm sure it happens, but comparing stoned drivers to drunk drivers is hilarious. Let's just say I've never had to kick my stoner friends' to keep them from getting behind a wheel.

cops prolly feel that way in the state of california for obvious reasons. Texas is a different story, I have a few cops in my family and im friends with others and when I have asked them in the past about a similar situation (driving while high) I recieve mixed responses. Some of them would take them in with a DUI (because according to the law that's what it is considered) while others would just give them a warning depending on how the "suspect's" behavior was FWIW

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It's all a matter of degrees. Sharing a joint and drinking a beer have minimal impact. But if you are paralyzed drunk or stoned to the beejezus, the difference behind the wheel of a car is irrelevant.

I still disagree. Having been in both states myself, the drunk is much more incapacitating. You lose muscular control, balance completely, any semblance of coordination, impaired vision, poor reaction time, and on and on and on when you're drunk off your butt.

Stoned? Not so much. Again both should be against the law but drunk is much much more dangerous.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

cops prolly feel that way in the state of california for obvious reasons. Texas is a different story, I have a few cops in my family and im friends with others and when I have asked them in the past about a similar situation (driving while high) I recieve mixed responses. Some of them would take them in with a DUI (because according to the law that's what it is considered) while others would just give them a warning depending on how the "suspect's" behavior was FWIW

And how would they respond when someone was drunk?

 

[WhizKid]

And there you have it from "DA" Whiz kid. Majority of stoners are smarter and better drivers than those who drink. :bang2:

MODS please change the part of my name that reads "DA" to "the", so that I may appease "the realist".

 

[WhizKid]

cops prolly feel that way in the state of california for obvious reasons. Texas is a different story, I have a few cops in my family and im friends with others and when I have asked them in the past about a similar situation (driving while high) I recieve mixed responses. Some of them would take them in with a DUI (because according to the law that's what it is considered) while others would just give them a warning depending on how the "suspect's" behavior was FWIW

Yea, I'm sure it varies more in Texas. Really nobody should be surprised with a DUI if arrested for it as long as it is illegal to drive high (as it should be).

 

[Supercowboy1986]

And how would they respond when someone was drunk?

Same. I have friends who had been pulled over when they were drunk and were let go, others went to jail. It really just came down to their behavior (i.e. how drunk they were.) I don't have any experience with any of that myself because I always had a DD and if you have ever lived in Austin, I would take the E-bus :

 

[Future]

You're wrong. Driving high is far less dangerous than driving drunk.

Regardless, the "dangers of drinking" go far beyond just drunk driving. Alcohol kills your liver and people can die from drinking too much. You can't die from smoking weed.

That is all a myth.

Marijuana has lots of long term learning and memory consequences. Plus, it causes problems like depression, lack of satisfaction in life, and decreased motivation.

To act like marijuana is "not a drug" or has no consequences is pretty absurd and, imo, a way for people to rationalize using it.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

He should have already been cut.