Brice Butler

[Dre11]

I know the play to Zeke that you are referencing. He was worried about it getting blocked and threw it high. IIRC Zeke stopped or slowed up more than I would have expected which made the throw seem much farther off. QBs throw with an expectation of the receiver moving forward at a certain rate.

Dak didn't have the same problem with all WRs. TWill and Butler were around 65% catch rate, Witten 72% but Dez 50%.

Drops stats are nonsense. You can watch a game and compare to how many passes were called drops and it's not something anybody would really agree with. They basically call them uncatchable if the ball is more than a few inches from dead-center on the Jersey numbers.

Nevertheless, if you are going to reference drop stats, then use the ones game announcers use, not the ones from Fox or somewhere. The ones I'm referring to had Dez and other WRs in double digits. If you see any with Dez in single digits then you are looking at the wrong ones.[/QUO

I know the play to Zeke that you are referencing. He was worried about it getting blocked and threw it high. IIRC Zeke stopped or slowed up more than I would have expected which made the throw seem much farther off. QBs throw with an expectation of the receiver moving forward at a certain rate.

Dak didn't have the same problem with all WRs. TWill and Butler were around 65% catch rate, Witten 72% but Dez 50%.

Drops stats are nonsense. You can watch a game and compare to how many passes were called drops and it's not something anybody would really agree with. They basically call them uncatchable if the ball is more than a few inches from dead-center on the Jersey numbers.

Nevertheless, if you are going to reference drop stats, then use the ones game announcers use, not the ones from Fox or somewhere. The ones I'm referring to had Dez and other WRs in double digits. If you see any with Dez in single digits then you are looking at the wrong ones.

Stop with the catch rate man......Brice had 23 targets compared to Dez 132, average Brice’s drops over Dez’s 132 and watch that catch rate go way down, it’s simple math. If Noah Brown gets 1 pass thrown to him and he catches it, guess what his catch rate is 100%,is he better than Dez and Brice? ....lol You call drop stats nonsense, then you want to talk about what an announcer call a drop and a catch rate stat, you talking out of both sides. Yes all the receivers struggled in the same year, it’s a fact. You say to ignore the drop stat,If you feel that way, then ignore all stats, because all the publications have the same, I showed you two. What is it? Dez’s Boisterous attitude? His early maturity issues? His sideline jesters? That keep you from giving him a fair criticism?

 

[Dre11]

No it's been repeated ad nauseum by both fans and media. Garrett is robotic, etc..

No it's been repeated ad nauseum by both fans and media. Garrett is robotic, etc..

You’re still making an assumption here, because he is robotic. But he’s shown he can be critical. There’s no better example then when he criticized Dak and the whole cowboy nation went bonkers....lol

 

[charron]

lol. Vast probs were just as on the wr's not getting open as on Dak missing wr's.

Our wr's were still above average in creating seperation, not by much but dtill. Dak is wanting 3 yards of space, he also has issues hitting guys in stride. People say dez an wit are slow but they have to stop turn to face dak and wait for the ball.

 

[xwalker]

You’re still making an assumption here, because he is robotic. But he’s shown he can be critical. There’s no better example then when he criticized Dak and the whole cowboy nation went bonkers....lol

He was deflecting blame from himself with the Dak comments. I think 99% of fans recognized his CYA move.

 

[sideon]

Wrong.

How much time did you spend watching the coaches film? I spent about 10 hours per game.

You're either lying or you lead a very sad life.

 

[xwalker]

You're either lying or you lead a very sad life.

Neither. I just don't sleep much.

It's not that much over the period of the season and offseason. Other people watch TV/Netflix for more hours than I watch game footage.

 

[Wolf2k5]

Weird how everyone clutches their pearls over a WR having the audacity to think they are better than they are..

 

[Dre11]

He was deflecting blame from himself with the Dak comments. I think 99% of fans recognized his CYA move.

Lol....you.’re really amazing me right now, JG had no reason to deflect any blame, where do you people come up with this ish....lol

 

[xwalker]

Lol....you.’re really amazing me right now, JG had no reason to deflect any blame, where do you people come up with this ish....lol

Everybody knows his offense is a big part of the problem.

Even Jerry/Stephen appearently because after the season they basically kicked Garrett out of the offensive game planning and have empowered Linehan to implement things his way.
They dumped coaches he didn't like and added coaches he does like.

The Dez criticism that Stephen and to some extent Jerry vocalized after the season came from Linehan, not Garrett.

Linehan wanted Dak in that draft.

Garrett wanted Paxton Lynch.

Garrett wanted them to draft Dez.

 

[HungryLion]

Lol....you.’re really amazing me right now, JG had no reason to deflect any blame, where do you people come up with this ish....lol

He has every reason to deflect blame. Most of the fan base dislikes him and wants him gone and he knows he is on the hot seat. As he should be.

It’s getting to be put up or shut up time for Garrett

 

[Dre11]

Everybody knows his offense is a big part of the problem.

Even Jerry/Stephen appearently because after the season they basically kicked Garrett out of the offensive game planning and have empowered Linehan to implement things his way.
They dumped coaches he didn't like and added coaches he does like.

The Dez criticism that Stephen and to some extent Jerry vocalized after the season came from Linehan, not Garrett.

Linehan wanted Dak in that draft.

Garrett wanted Paxton Lynch.

Garrett wanted them to draft Dez.

Conspiracy with no facts, JG has no reason to deflect, Jerry and Stephen Loves him. Where’s your proof X he was kicked out of the offensive room. What coaches did they kick out, when JG has been in the coaching hiring process....lol you’re too much

 

[HungryLion]

Lol was that our noodle arm QB, throwing a 50 yard pinpoint perfect strike, only to have our alligator arm WR drop it?

 

[Dre11]

He has every reason to deflect blame. Most of the fan base dislikes him and wants him gone and he knows he is on the hot seat. As he should be.

It’s getting to be put up or shut up time for Garrett

His Bosses loves him, the fans don’t mean s, he has no reason to deflect.....lol

 

[HungryLion]

His Bosses loves him, the fans don’t mean s, he has no reason to deflect.....lol

I know you’re pro Garrett Dre and that’s fine.

But Jerry and Stephen loving him, tells me more about their incompetence than it tells me about Garretts coaching ability.

 

[Dre11]

Everybody knows his offense is a big part of the problem.

Even Jerry/Stephen appearently because after the season they basically kicked Garrett out of the offensive game planning and have empowered Linehan to implement things his way.
They dumped coaches he didn't like and added coaches he does like.

The Dez criticism that Stephen and to some extent Jerry vocalized after the season came from Linehan, not Garrett.

Linehan wanted Dak in that draft.

Garrett wanted Paxton Lynch.

Garrett wanted them to draft Dez.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/201...drafting-ezekiel-elliott-and-dak-prescott-mvp

As I said stop with the Bs

 

[Dre11]

I know you’re pro Garrett Dre and that’s fine.

But Jerry and Stephen loving him, tells me more about their incompetence than it tells me about Garretts coaching ability.

That still has nothing to do with him needing to deflect blame.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Drops stats are nonsense. You can watch a game and compare to how many passes were called drops and it's not something anybody would really agree with. They basically call them uncatchable if the ball is more than a few inches from dead-center on the Jersey numbers.

You really have to look at all the incompletes yourself to decide on drops.

If the NFL had any sense, they'd make NFL replay *searchable* on player, touches, targets, etc.

 

[Cmac]

Reality will set in soon......followed by humbleness.

 

[xwalker]

You really have to look at all the incompletes yourself to decide on drops.

If the NFL had any sense, they'd make NFL replay *searchable* on player, touches, targets, etc.

The coaches film is somewhat searchable but it's a clunky process.

 

[xwalker]

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/201...drafting-ezekiel-elliott-and-dak-prescott-mvp

As I said stop with the Bs

You have not been paying attention if you believe BtB.

Yes on Zeke and Garrett.

BS Garrett and Dak.

The story is well known about Linehan and Wade Wilson pushing for Dak.