Broaddus: Parcells fired me over Charles Woodson

[Idgit]

Totally agree. I like Broaddus but I don't think he was all that as a scout or he would still be doing it. And half the people who get fired from a job say it was over one little nitpick while glossing over the things that they did poorly leading up to the incident.

I like him, too, for what he is. But you just need to hear he and Brugler discuss the same player once to see the difference between a guy who tries hard and has been around the block and a guy who really knows what he's doing. You have to imagine the guys employed by NFL teams mostly all fall into that latter category.

 

[Risen Star]

I'd like to hear Bills point of view but it's clear in hindsight that the game had passed Bill by

Clearly. You could tell that by how he completely turned around Jerry and Stephen's mess and made the Cowboys respectable again.

Hate to see legends die like that.

 

[Alexander]

So Broaddus was a pro personnel scout?

I believe people forget that coming out of Oakland, Al Davis had labeled Woodson a bad character risk that didn't care about football.

Green Bay, with its football only surroundings, probably were the best place for him.

 

[Floatyworm]

Was a scout from 2002-2005ish

2002 Dallas Cowboys draft

Round Pick Player Position College Notes
1 8 Roy Williams * S Oklahoma
2 37 Andre Gurode * C Colorado
2 63 Antonio Bryant WR Pittsburgh
3 75 Derek Ross CB Ohio State
4 129 Jamar Martin FB Ohio State
5 168 Pete Hunter DB Virginia Union
6 179 Tyson Walter G Ohio State
6 208 Deveren Johnson WR Sacred Heart compensatory
6 211 Bob Slowikowski TE Virginia Tech compensatory
Made roster † Pro Football Hall of Fame * Made at least one Pro Bowl during career

2003 Dallas Cowboys draft

Round Pick Player Position College Notes
1 5 Terence Newman * CB Kansas State
2 38 Al Johnson C Wisconsin
3 69 Jason Witten * TE Tennessee [1]
4 103 Bradie James LB LSU
6 178 B. J. Tucker CB Wisconsin
6 186 Zuriel Smith WR Hampton
7 219 Justin Bates G Colorado

2004 Dallas Cowboys draft

Round Pick Player Position College Notes
2 43 Julius Jones RB Notre Dame
2 52 Jacob Rogers OT Southern California
3 83 Stephen Peterman G LSU
4 121 Bruce Thornton CB Georgia
7 205 Nathan Jones CB Rutgers
7 216 Patrick Crayton WR Northwestern Oklahoma State
7 223 Jacques Reeves CB Purdue

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Lotta misses there Broaddus

 

[big dog cowboy]

Lotta misses there Broaddus

Seriously? He was just a scout.

 

[Floatyworm]

Seriously? He was just a scout.

But if Jerry is going off his board...He seriously messed up some of those picks.

 

[MileyDancer]

I can't imagine Parcells being so petty that he would fire him over 1 disagreement.

Surely there were more factors like they thought they could upgrade his position with someone else or maybe Broadus was wrong on some other players. Who knows... I just can't imagine 1 disagreement getting the guy fired in that line of work.

Debating player acquisitions should be the norm.

He got tired of hearing every sentence By broaddus start with "yeah", followed by 5 more in that same sentence.

 

[Alexander]

But if Jerry is going off his board...He seriously messed up some of those picks.

Broaddus would not have had anything to do with construction of the board.

Scouts scout and collect the information. Other people would be in charge of construction and execution. Namely people like Larry Lacewell and Tom Ciskowski

 

[Reverend Conehead]

Parcells also famously wanted Spears over DEMARCUS WARE.
Yeah, the guy wasn't great.

And Landry chose not to draft Joe Montana against Tex Schramm's wishes. All coaches make draft mistakes. Johnson also missed out on Junior Seau because he had used the pick on a QB named Walsh in the supplemental draft.

 

[Ring6]

I don't believe Broaddus on this. It was probably more to do with "how" rather than who. As in, he doesn't work well with others, gets butt hurt (wrong about Dak liked the practice squad safety better for example) and is more of a yes man than most think (waits for Dane Bruger then says yep)

 

[Kaiser]

And Landry chose not to draft Joe Montana against Tex Schramm's wishes. All coaches make draft mistakes. Johnson also missed out on Junior Seau because he had used the pick on a QB named Walsh in the supplemental draft.

Jimmy also traded 2nd round picks for duds like Terrence Flagler and Daniel Stubbs.

 

[waving monkey]

I guess Parcell's comments on Woodson gives us insight into T.O. and whether it was truly Parcell's decision. T.O. was forced on the big Tuna by Jerry Jones.

that was a big mistake and I am a JJones fan

 

[Hoofbite]

Parcells made a lot of mistakes

As does everyone so being flawless isn't what made Parcells a great coach. He turned around a piss poor team in a short span of time. Had a more competent group of coaches followed him, his time in Dallas would look a hell of a lot better.

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

and Broaddus remains bitter to this day.

 

[AzorAhai]

But if Jerry is going off his board...He seriously messed up some of those picks.

He? You do realize there's more than just one scout and more than just one person who puts a board together right?

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Woodson was labeled a malcontent. IIRC, there was one play against Woodson we had when he was with the Raiders and Parcells was the coach and it was one of the sorriest jobs of tackling and effort you'll ever see. So, I could see Parcells' point. However, Woodson turned around everything in Green Bay. Sometimes certain situations are toxic.




YR

 

[Zekeats]

Am I missing something? Wasn't Charles Woodson drafted in the 90s and Parcells didn't coach around here till 2003

 

[negativecreep]

2002 Dallas Cowboys draft

Round Pick Player Position College Notes
1 8 Roy Williams * S Oklahoma
2 37 Andre Gurode * C Colorado
2 63 Antonio Bryant WR Pittsburgh
3 75 Derek Ross CB Ohio State
4 129 Jamar Martin FB Ohio State
5 168 Pete Hunter DB Virginia Union
6 179 Tyson Walter G Ohio State
6 208 Deveren Johnson WR Sacred Heart compensatory
6 211 Bob Slowikowski TE Virginia Tech compensatory
Made roster † Pro Football Hall of Fame * Made at least one Pro Bowl during career

2003 Dallas Cowboys draft

Round Pick Player Position College Notes
1 5 Terence Newman * CB Kansas State
2 38 Al Johnson C Wisconsin
3 69 Jason Witten * TE Tennessee [1]
4 103 Bradie James LB LSU
6 178 B. J. Tucker CB Wisconsin
6 186 Zuriel Smith WR Hampton
7 219 Justin Bates G Colorado

2004 Dallas Cowboys draft

Round Pick Player Position College Notes
2 43 Julius Jones RB Notre Dame
2 52 Jacob Rogers OT Southern California
3 83 Stephen Peterman G LSU
4 121 Bruce Thornton CB Georgia
7 205 Nathan Jones CB Rutgers
7 216 Patrick Crayton WR Northwestern Oklahoma State
7 223 Jacques Reeves CB Purdue

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Lotta misses there Broaddus

Wow...I don't even remember some of those names, I don't mind Roy, Andre, Terence, Bradie...other than that again wow.

 

[DFWJC]

But if Jerry is going off his board...He seriously messed up some of those picks.

They had a ton of scouts

 

[Verdict]

I'm not totally a Parcells fan, but I think the one thing Parcells KNOWS is how people identify and relate to him. He openly told Jerry Jones, "I'm not for everyone" and if "We don't win, and win fast his coaching style wouldn't go over very well".

Parcells is a hard ***, that sort of picks and chooses when he wants to be a hard ***. He might let player who is a hall of fame talent get by with a lot, and cut a marginal player for a minor transgression.

He didn't want to deal with problematic players because he would only take so much from a player before he took some sort of drastic action. I think that is why he referred to T.O. as "The Player" generically, and avoided dealing with him. He let Jerry do the hand holding with T.O. and avoided dealing with him as much as possible.

Bringing in T.O. was a mistake. I don't know that much about the Woodson deal, but if a coach really doesn't want a player due to a personality issue, forcing the issue is generally a bad idea.