Broaddus: Position Battle For La’el Collins; Dustin Vaughan’s Progression

[Fredd]

Who's the backup for Tyron ? Can Collin be the backup too ?

swing tackle they want to be green, but currently weems

 

[xwalker]

He seems like the perfect candidate to try and bring back. Sounds like he'll be a cheap solid linemen for you. Doug Free is the one who's probably on his way out. Well with his age, I think we know he's on his way out.

IMO, they need Collins practicing at RT. Collins will not be a huge upgrade over Leary at LG, but is likely better than Green/Weems as the backup OT. With Free's 2 ankle surgeries in a 1 year timeframe and his age, the backup OT could again be a big need this season.
It's also possible that Collins could win the starting job.

 

[CashMan]

IMO, they need Collins practicing at RT. Collins will not be a huge upgrade over Leary at LG, but is likely better than Green/Weems as the backup OT. With Free's 2 ankle surgeries in a 1 year timeframe and his age, the backup OT could again be a big need this season.
It's also possible that Collins could win the starting job.

I feel, Jerry told Collins, that he would start, and he(Collins), spoke that way in the presser. So, I think which is more logical, LG or RT? Either way, he starts. He might be a little big of an upgrade at LG, but I think it is more about this year and the future, which next year, might be the bigger upgrade.

 

[Bullflop]

IMO, they need Collins practicing at RT. Collins will not be a huge upgrade over Leary at LG, but is likely better than Green/Weems as the backup OT. With Free's 2 ankle surgeries in a 1 year timeframe and his age, the backup OT could again be a big need this season.
It's also possible that Collins could win the starting job.

I'm thinking they'll be experimenting with Collins at both LG and RT to see just what they have with him and how to best utilize his capabilities. For the time being, though, they seem intent on making La'el and Leary competitors for that LG post. I'm guessing they feel La'el will affford them better pass pro at that spot while they continue to try to get their money's worth from Free. Seems the staff feels more comfy with Free than Leary as their starters at those two respective spots. Our backup possibilities are definitely increasing with all the new talent onboard though.

 

[jobberone]

IMO, they need Collins practicing at RT. Collins will not be a huge upgrade over Leary at LG, but is likely better than Green/Weems as the backup OT. With Free's 2 ankle surgeries in a 1 year timeframe and his age, the backup OT could again be a big need this season.
It's also possible that Collins could win the starting job.

I agree Collins will get snaps at T. They will put the best five out there.

 

[CashMan]

I agree Collins will get snaps at T. They will put the best five out there.

I doubt that. I think leary>free, but free will start with collins at lg.

 

[jobberone]

I doubt that. I think leary>free, but free will start with collins at lg.

Why wouldn't he train some for T? I don't see him playing there without injuries but we don't know that yet.

 

[CashMan]

Why wouldn't he train some for T? I don't see him playing there without injuries but we don't know that yet.

I think you said the best 5 will start, and that is not true. I think leary is better than free, but free will start. I think this, because of two things, frees contract and learys knee.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

IMO, they need Collins practicing at RT. Collins will not be a huge upgrade over Leary at LG, but is likely better than Green/Weems as the backup OT. With Free's 2 ankle surgeries in a 1 year timeframe and his age, the backup OT could again be a big need this season.
It's also possible that Collins could win the starting job.

I agree. People bring up Leary because he's the least known of the lineman and he has the knee concerns but he's my starting LG until he decides to quit. What do you think about Rt? Would you rather have Zach Martin get some reps there over Collins?

 

[xwalker]

I agree. People bring up Leary because he's the least known of the lineman and he has the knee concerns but he's my starting LG until he decides to quit. What do you think about Rt? Would you rather have Zach Martin get some reps there over Collins?

I think Martin should train to be the backup Center. That would give them the option to move on from Bernadeau or at least not need to have him active on game day.

The backup OT should be the eventual starter, IMO.

The Cowboys have 1 issue on the OL and that is the backup OT.

Putting Collins at Guard does not solve any problems for 2015. Putting him at OT, either backup or starter does solve a problem.

The only way I would put Collins at OG is if Green or Weems are better at OT than him.

 

[xwalker]

I agree Collins will get snaps at T. They will put the best five out there.

Putting Collins at LG is not really helping the team in 2015, IMO. Putting him at OT, either backup or starter solves the backup OT problem.

The issue is that as a rookie he needs to focus on either OT or OG. I don't see him being the starting LG and then bumping out to OT if an injury occurs.

If Green or Weems or better at OT than Collins, then he should obviously play OG, but that seems unlikely.

 

[jobberone]

I think you said the best 5 will start, and that is not true. I think leary is better than free, but free will start. I think this, because of two things, frees contract and learys knee.

The best five at their best position obviously. Free is just a T. Fred is the best B. Collins cah play G or T and backup C. Leary is a G who can play C, Bernie is a G/C. Weems ia swing T. I'm less confident about the rest altho Green can play T/C. Snith is a T.

 

[CF74]

Was really hoping to hear Collins would push Free, not Leary...

 

[jobberone]

IMO, they need Collins practicing at RT. Collins will not be a huge upgrade over Leary at LG, but is likely better than Green/Weems as the backup OT. With Free's 2 ankle surgeries in a 1 year timeframe and his age, the backup OT could again be a big need this season.
It's also possible that Collins could win the starting job.

Again, I definitely think Collins will get work at RT in TC. It's really difficult to say where he may play though. I suspect he will mainly compete at LG. You had one of the best OL in the NFL last year if not the best. That's a combination of individual skill and coordination with each other. Chemistry is important so they want to keep that. They are going to put the best five out there but that involves chemistry as well as talent.

IMO, the only spots open barring injury are LG and maybe RT. I don't think any current players esp the RT ones will take Free's job. Same goes for Collins but not out of the question. That leaves LG so basically Collins has to beat Leary.

Injuries obviously could play a role. Depth here is remarkable. Doubt any team will be better.

 

[burmafrd]

I have heard accounts that Free's recovery from surgery has been slow. That could very well factor in.

With a rookie you want him working at ONE position the whole time - too much confusion in a rookies year to add any more.

I can see them taking the first week of camp and giving him a look at both positions- and depending on Free and Green maybe having him go for OT.

 

[gmoney112]

Again, I definitely think Collins will get work at RT in TC. It's really difficult to say where he may play though. I suspect he will mainly compete at LG. You had one of the best OL in the NFL last year if not the best. That's a combination of individual skill and coordination with each other. Chemistry is important so they want to keep that. They are going to put the best five out there but that involves chemistry as well as talent.

IMO, the only spots open barring injury are LG and maybe RT. I don't think any current players esp the RT ones will take Free's job. Same goes for Collins but not out of the question. That leaves LG so basically Collins has to beat Leary.

Injuries obviously could play a role. Depth here is remarkable. Doubt any team will be better.

I'm thinking pretty much the same. He did play LG his sophomore season at LSU and he played LT so the learning curve will be employing the OL zone/man schemes and getting situated with the other guys.

I've heard moving sides at T is pretty tough, and I'm fairly certain Collins wanted a chance to compete for a Tackle position during his 3 years, since it gives him much more market value when he hits FA. I'm sure our FO said they'd give him that opportunity in training camps, which is another reason why we probably landed him so quickly.

I just don't think he's going to beat out Free at RT, especially since he's never played RT. But he'll get reps and probably lock down the LG position, leaving Leary as depth/trade bait.

 

[Vinnie2u]

What are the odds Jerry hits the UDFA QB lottery again with Vaughn.....

 

[jobberone]

What are the odds Jerry hits the UDFA QB lottery again with Vaughn.....

Better than 1-2+M and less than 1/2. I'm certain this helps.

 

[darthseinfeld]

What are the odds Jerry hits the UDFA QB lottery again with Vaughn.....

Honestly not as bad as people think IMO. I dont they see Vaughan as that yet, but after this preseason they may depending on how he has progressed. Vaughan has the physical tools, and taking a few years of development may put him ahead of some guys who went day 1 and 2 of last years draft when and if he gets the chance to play

 

[Howboutdemcowboys31]

I love Broaddus, but McCray isn't the answer. If he was, we would've kept him because he's cheap. We let him go, age a year, and re-signed him. I'm pro Spillman anti Mcray