Broaddus: Position Battle For La’el Collins; Dustin Vaughan’s Progression

[silver]

Me thinks Collins should be the swing guy until somebody gets hurt. I wouldnt mess with the starters on the OL this year, considering the question marks at RB. Weeden will be the back-up. There's no way we go into the season with 35 year old Romo with a zero experienced-undrafted free agent-small school back up.

 

[Howboutdemcowboys31]

I think that you have absolutely nothing to base that on.

And Spillman is 2 years older than McCray.

What do you want me to base it off of? He was bad and Dwayne Harris became the gunner. Based off how cheap he is we wouldn't have let him go if he was doing anything good. I saw Spillman make several plays last year, one right infront of my face against Golden Tate

 

[RS12]

Me thinks Collins should be the swing guy until somebody gets hurt. I wouldnt mess with the starters on the OL this year, considering the question marks at RB. Weeden will be the back-up. There's no way we go into the season with 35 year old Romo with a zero experienced-undrafted free agent-small school back up.

Me thinks Jerry told Collins he was gonna start because that would have happened anywhere else. That is how he got him to sign on the line that is dotted. Collins is already looking at contract number two. How do you make that bigger? By being and staying a day one starter. Collins may be a Cowboy fan, but it is about the money.

 

[The Realist]

La'el Collins the swing tackle. Hilarious.

 

[jterrell]

Leary's in the last year of his contract, and he's got a knee that could end his career any year. He's not going to get a contract extension here. So, he's nothing more than the proverbial progress stopper. Barring injury to Collins, Leary's as good as gone. Either this year or next. Either way, he won't be starting.

That's possible but hardly proven.
Leary is still a young guy who has shown zero signs of being too injured to compete.

Dallas could sign Leary to an extension if he is amenable on price. But even if they do not Dallas won't just give up his rights for nothing so he's here two years in all likelihood.

Free is older and on a short-term deal. His 2 year deal looks like his last.
It is more likely Dallas keeps Leary and in a year or two moves Free to asst OL coach.

Collins will eventually get a shot at OT where he wants to play and eventually get paid the big bucks.

Whatever the case, Dallas has a solid amount of OL talent but no reason to start jettisoning people,. especially great value players.

 

[jterrell]

La'el Collins the swing tackle. Hilarious.

Larry Allen had that role as a rookie and turned out OK.

It's likely Collins finds a place to start but not near certain.

 

[The Realist]

Larry Allen had that role as a rookie and turned out OK.

It's likely Collins finds a place to start but not near certain.

As someone else stated if we had taken Collins at 27 everyone would have him penciled as starter. Now, since he went undrafted somehow people have Leary better than a first rounder.

 

[jterrell]

As someone else stated if we had taken Collins at 27 everyone would have him penciled as starter. Now, since he went undrafted somehow people have Leary better than a first rounder.

And as anyone with a brain would note: We didn't take him at 27 and OL wasn't even on the radar at 27 because we have 5 above average starters.
It isn't a given he starts and he noted himself the team merely promised him a chance to compete not a starting job.

He certainly is likely to start somewhere but vet players with time in the system have advantages that go beyond talent so he could wind up a 6th OL as a rookie if everyone happened to be healthy and playing really well.

If that happens great for us. If he wins a spot, great for us.

We have enough OL talent that it really doesn't matter. We play the best 5 and keep piles moving.
Routing for particular players is fine emotionally but largely football stupid in the grand scheme of things.
We just them to perform as a group.

This isn't like stepping in for David Arkin or someone. Leary has been one of the best young, cheap run blocking LG in football on a team that wants to run the football as an identity.

It was shocking Collins came here because here he is a luxury.

 

[The Realist]

And as anyone with a brain would note: We didn't take him at 27 and OL wasn't even on the radar at 27 because we have 5 above average starters.
It isn't a given he starts and he noted himself the team merely promised him a chance to compete not a starting job.

He certainly is likely to start somewhere but vet players with time in the system have advantages that go beyond talent so he could wind up a 6th OL as a rookie if everyone happened to be healthy and playing really well.

If that happens great for us. If he wins a spot, great for us.

We have enough OL talent that it really doesn't matter. We play the best 5 and keep piles moving.
Routing for particular players is fine emotionally but largely football stupid in the grand scheme of things.
We just them to perform as a group.

This isn't like stepping in for David Arkin or someone. Leary has been one of the best young, cheap run blocking LG in football on a team that wants to run the football as an identity.

It was shocking Collins came here because here he is a luxury.

And as anyone with a brain would note: We didn't take him at 27 and OL wasn't even on the radar at 27 because we have 5 above average starters.
It isn't a given he starts and he noted himself the team merely promised him a chance to compete not a starting job.

He certainly is likely to start somewhere but vet players with time in the system have advantages that go beyond talent so he could wind up a 6th OL as a rookie if everyone happened to be healthy and playing really well.

If that happens great for us. If he wins a spot, great for us.

We have enough OL talent that it really doesn't matter. We play the best 5 and keep piles moving.
Routing for particular players is fine emotionally but largely football stupid in the grand scheme of things.
We just them to perform as a group.

This isn't like stepping in for David Arkin or someone. Leary has been one of the best young, cheap run blocking LG in football on a team that wants to run the football as an identity.

It was shocking Collins came here because here he is a luxury.

If anyone was to think OL wasn't on the radar at 27 they either have to be stupid or not paying attention. You seem to be fairly passionate and devote a great deal of time to following the Cowboys so that leaves one alternative I'm sorry to say.

Were there rumors the Cowboys has an interest in the A&M OT at 27? Yes. Did Jerry say after the draft that they had talked about going OL at 27 and "stacking them up"? Yes.

Sound like OL wasn't on the radar to you?

Sadly, the answer to you is probably yes which further proves my first point.

 

[jterrell]

If anyone was to think OL wasn't on the radar at 27 they either have to be stupid or not paying attention. You seem to be fairly passionate and devote a great deal of time to following the Cowboys so that leaves one alternative I'm sorry to say.

Were there rumors the Cowboys has an interest in the A&M OT at 27? Yes. Did Jerry say after the draft that they had talked about going OL at 27 and "stacking them up"? Yes.

Sound like OL wasn't on the radar to you?

Sadly, the answer to you is probably yes which further proves my first point.

actually I was the one saying they were taking a CB R1 months before they actually did.
you really do not want to compare track records with me. the reality would just hurt your feelings.
i had them going with byron jones in many mock drafts.

but just to follow the very basic, most simple logic....
did they take Collins at 27? obviously not, so your attempted point is invalid on every level.

only a complete buffoon would pass off a theoretical discussion they chose NOT to execute as proof of their desire to do so.
they considered virtually every scenario and weighed it's value.

gregory was another r1 value guy, anyone guaranteeing he starts at DE?

stop being sensitive and saying stupid things in absolute manners and your feelings will fare better.

 

[CashMan]

And as anyone with a brain would note: We didn't take him at 27 and OL wasn't even on the radar at 27 because we have 5 above average starters.
It isn't a given he starts and he noted himself the team merely promised him a chance to compete not a starting job.

He certainly is likely to start somewhere but vet players with time in the system have advantages that go beyond talent so he could wind up a 6th OL as a rookie if everyone happened to be healthy and playing really well.

If that happens great for us. If he wins a spot, great for us.

We have enough OL talent that it really doesn't matter. We play the best 5 and keep piles moving.
Routing for particular players is fine emotionally but largely football stupid in the grand scheme of things.
We just them to perform as a group.

This isn't like stepping in for David Arkin or someone. Leary has been one of the best young, cheap run blocking LG in football on a team that wants to run the football as an identity.

It was shocking Collins came here because here he is a luxury.

Go re watch the presser, Jerry specifically said, they thought about taking collins at 27.

 

[The Realist]

actually I was the one saying they were taking a CB R1 months before they actually did.
you really do not want to compare track records with me. the reality would just hurt your feelings.
i had them going with byron jones in many mock drafts.

but just to follow the very basic, most simple logic....
did they take Collins at 27? obviously not, so your attempted point is invalid on every level.

only a complete buffoon would pass off a theoretical discussion they chose NOT to execute as proof of their desire to do so.
they considered virtually every scenario and weighed it's value.

gregory was another r1 value guy, anyone guaranteeing he starts at DE?

stop being sensitive and saying stupid things in absolute manners and your feelings will fare better.

Dodged every point like a true coward.