Broaddus/Sturm/Vela Draft Twitter Convo

[WoodysGirl]

Bob Sturm ‏@SportsSturm 14h
Trust me; even I know that when @BryanBroaddus and I disagree on a player like Sharrif Floyd, always go with Bryan. #Ring


Bryan Broaddus ‏@BryanBroaddus 14h
Thanks @SportsSturm but you can stand on your own. You do the work, I respect that.

Bob Sturm ‏@SportsSturm 54m
@BryanBroaddus lots of roads keep leading me back to DJ Fluker at #18 as best player left at the spots in peril.

Bryan Broaddus ‏@BryanBroaddus 7m
@SportsSturm Have never had a great vibe about Fluker. Was in Bama 4 Pro Day. In wipe out situation no move I am leaning toward Sly Williams

Bob Sturm ‏@SportsSturm 5m
@BryanBroaddus I am Sylvester's biggest fan. I like him more than Sharrif! Good to hear you like his game. 3 Tech is needed.

Rafael Vela ‏@CowboysNation1 3m
@SportsSturm @BryanBroaddus Lots of DL help needed. Team has no DE backups that I can see. Who do you two like later there?

Bryan Broaddus ‏@BryanBroaddus 3m
@SportsSturm Keep preaching. You are doing good work.

Rafael Vela ‏@CowboysNation1 3m
@SportsSturm @BryanBroaddus Thinking at weakside DE. If Ware hurt, Hatcher could maybe be a Vonnie Holliday-type, but looking for speed guy.

Bob Sturm ‏@SportsSturm 2m
@CowboysNation1 @BryanBroaddus tough to know who gets to 47. But, I imagine there might be some sliders at that spot.

Rafael Vela ‏@CowboysNation1 28s
@SportsSturm @BryanBroaddus To that end, is Sam Montgomery even on this team's board?

Bob Sturm ‏@SportsSturm 2m
@CowboysNation1 @BryanBroaddus funny you mention him. That was just the name I was wondering about dropping to them.

Bryan Broaddus ‏@BryanBroaddus 12m
@SportsSturm @cowboysnation1 I don't believe so. There are a ton of things going against him that folks are going to have to over come

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They're still chatting... I'll post as I see..

 

[DFWJC]

Thanks WG

btw
I think Sly Williams is generally underrated on this board.

 

[speedkilz88]

He's kind of a late riser is why. DeMarcus Ware was a late riser also. At least to the public probably not to the scouts. I would say Fluker is over-rated, don't see him being a Cowboys pick at 18. I think they would rather get Armstead later.

 

[conner01]

i have my concerns about fluker too. guys from great olines scare me a bit

 

[reddyuta]

I am ok with either fluker or sly @18 if cooper or warmack are taken.

 

[Risen Star]

Sylvester Williams isn't a late riser. He's been in Scouts Inc.'s and Kiper's top 20 for months.

 

[Picksix]

Sylvester Williams isn't a late riser. He's been in Scouts Inc.'s and Kiper's top 20 for months.

Seems like a lot of players "rise" because it's just a matter of the majority of the media catching up with how teams/others have them ranked.

 

[HoosierCowboy]

dont know what to dislike about Fluker--he is waht he is: a big, strong, mean, mauler, and winner. maybe not a pro tackle. But what's great about this draft is that some very good OL and DL will be around in the 3rd round (maybe fourth)--perfect for the Cowboy's needs.

 

[Nation]

At least one of the guards will be there if not both.

 

[speedkilz88]

At least one of the guards will be there if not both.

I'm holding you to that.

 

[DFWJC]

Sylvester Williams isn't a late riser. He's been in Scouts Inc.'s and Kiper's top 20 for months.

True.
Certain analysts have liked him for awhile now--those generally being the ones that were doing their homework on 2013 players earlier in the process.

For whatever reason, many on this site are only just now giving him any love. Many still aren't.

Some of it has to do with some of the early ratings and mocks; like the rating on CBS Sportsline (NFL Draft Scout) that had him at 53.
Crazy. That allowed some to feel ok in mocking him to us at 47.

Well, I noticed CBS moved him up 35 spots now...to 18th.

I still want Cooper, Warmack, Richardson, etc ahead of him. But we could do worse.

 

[Nation]

I'm holding you to that.

It's a position of need for us, and one I think would be worth using with the 18th pick. But in the last ten years only 8 guards have been drafted in the first round, only once (last year) have multiple guards been drafted in the first round, and the highest one has been drafted has been 17th overall.

I know it isn't conventional mock draft wisdom but remember that teams like to swing for home runs in the first 15 picks, not hit for doubles. I think we'll also see a second non-Geno quarterback selected before we pick, as well as a second non-Austin receiver.

 

[xwalker]

dont know what to dislike about Fluker--he is waht he is: a big, strong, mean, mauler, and winner. maybe not a pro tackle. But what's great about this draft is that some very good OL and DL will be around in the 3rd round (maybe fourth)--perfect for the Cowboy's needs.

Envision Marc Columbo's last year here. He was still a big, strong, mean mauler; however, he couldn't move his feet fast enough to be a quality OT in the NFL.

 

[ValleyBoyz]

Sylvester Williams will be just about 30 by the time it comes time to sign hiim to an extension. No thanks

 

[DFWJC]

Sylvester Williams will be just about 30 by the time it comes time to sign hiim to an extension. No thanks

His is a bit older than some. That surprised me.
But if he signs a 5 year deal and does well, he will be extended in his 3rd or 4th year. Say it's during his 4th season, that makes him 27 or 28 (if after Nov 21) when he extends.

 

[RS12]

I have seen many saying Montgomery slides into the 4th. I dont think they take Fluker at 18 under any circumstance.

 

[9darter]

Seems like a lot of players "rise" because it's just a matter of the majority of the media catching up with how teams/others have them ranked.

Exactly.

 

[xwalker]

His is a bit older than some. That surprised me.
But if he signs a 5 year deal and does well, he will be extended in his 3rd or 4th year. Say it's during his 4th season, that makes him 27 or 28 (if after Nov 21) when he extends.

I think all rookie contracts are 4 years now; however, good point that the team does not have to wait until the end of his contract to extend him. That would keep them out of the situation of having to sign a near-30 player to a new 4+ year contract.

If being older results in a player being ready to be a significant contributor from day-1, then age is not as big of an issue. Draft picks have their most value to the team on their initial contracts. After the initial contract they are just like any other Free Agent.

 

[Primetime42]

I look at Fluker and I see Flozell. Anyone else?

 

[DFWJC]

I think all rookie contracts are 4 years now; however, good point that the team does not have to wait until the end of his contract to extend him. That would keep them out of the situation of having to sign a near-30 player to a new 4+ year contract.

If being older results in a player being ready to be a significant contributor from day-1, then age is not as big of an issue. Draft picks have their most value to the team on their initial contracts. After the initial contract they are just like any other Free Agent.

I thought 1st rounders could get 5 years. There's been a lot of talk of teams moving up from the early 2nd to the late 1st to grab a QB for that very reason.