Broaddus: Under The Radar Guys At Tackle Could Make Difference

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Menelik Watson Florida State:
Has a quick set but will also have some over extension…will lead with his head at times…tries to extend on his man…has some trouble getting all the way to the edge…narrow base on drive block…can get knocked off balance…tends to over shoot on second level…keeps his feet moving…works to finish…has some nasty to him…didn’t show the strength for the cut off…technique can be all over the place in regards to hands and feet…not a smooth player…will hold to complete block…will tend to be a one legged player at times…had a nice pancake block against Miami…doesn’t always sustain…initial quickness on the inside set…not always in good position…can pin man inside if he catches him right…more catch than punch…got over powered on the goal line…didn’t adjust well in the twist game…has trouble sitting down….is a young guy that you are betting on his long range ability….

Jordan Mills Louisiana Tech:

Plays as a right tackle…can get to second level…down block…continues to move his feet when engaged…will carry his hands low...needs to punch better…allowed Moore of A&M to get the corner on him…plays in a two point stance…tends to reach more than drive…not always quick away from the LOS…really has to fight to get outside…tried to get out on the screen but wasn’t successful…has to push hard to get in front of his man…struggles with quick movement…has trouble when the rushers redirects…tends to get over the tops of his feet on set…will tend to catch blocks…has to really sink his butt to get away from LOS…more movement he has to face the more problems he has…I see a guy that really has nice size but his feet don’t move well enough for me right now…hard to be a successful tackle in this league when you struggle with your footwork.

Terron Armstead Arkansas-Pine Bluff

Plays as the left tackle….outstanding agility…can get up the field in a hurry on the screen…can finish his blocks…very light on his feet…can get outside on the screen…can finish his block…can work in front of his man…pulls easily…moves effortless…needs to set and kick wider…can wall off on the down block…can adjust…inconsistent on his set…can be quick than not…will ride his man up the field…will adjust on the twist…needs to punch better with his hands to stop charge…athletic to adjust and pass twist…will search out his man to hit on pull…didn’t keep his feet on cut off…gets hands inside…didn’t hit man square on trap…will get too high and try to muscle…keeps his head out of the block…able to extend…gets movement with his feet….projected as a second round player as well like Watson….I really like this kid…..there is a ton to develop here….his agility is a huge strength….know there will be concern about the small school experience but his best football is ahead of him…

Chris Faulk LSU

Plays as a right tackle…can get movement…will bounce off blocks to get to second level…doesn’t have very quick feet…has some upper body strength to sit down on rushers…will lunge at times…can get a little high in his set…can work on the down block…doesn’t always sustain…doesn’t always make the cut off block…can be late off the ball

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I don't understand how they put guys like Mills, Williams, and Faulk but not include Fragel.
 

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supercowboy8;5043827 said:
I don't understand how they put guys like Mills, Williams, and Faulk but not include Fragel.

I think a lot of folks worry about the lack of experience. I'm hoping we have the good fortune to still have him around in the 4th.
 

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fishspill;5043833 said:
I think a lot of folks worry about the lack of experience. I'm hoping we have the good fortune to still have him around in the 4th.

Fragel played TE until this year he played RT in the Big 10 for Ohio st. and was pretty good. I'm not saying he is a day one starter but I don't think Faulk is either.

Also Faulk and Williams are coming off injuries and Williams is slow, I wouldn't want him.

Armstead and Mills played for lower competition that was not as good as playing vs Big 10 players.

There has been a few OTs that played TE that developed and turned into good OTs in the NFL.
 

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supercowboy8;5043842 said:
Fragel played TE until this year he played RT in the Big 10 for Ohio st. and was pretty good. I'm not saying he is a day one starter but I don't think Faulk is either.

Also Faulk and Williams are coming off injuries and Williams is slow, I wouldn't want him.

Armstead and Mills played for lower competition that was not as good as playing vs Big 10 players.

There has been a few OTs that played TE that developed and turned into good OTs in the NFL.

I'm with you on him completely. I like him more than all but a handful of OL in this draft, especially considering where he can be had (in theory).
 

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IMO Chris Faulk was a first round talent until his injury(acl), now granted he needed some seasoning which he did not receive(by being injured), he was touted with the likes of Joeckel and the big OT from Michigan Taylor Lewan who withdrew from the draft. More in line with a Nate Newton build vs a Tyron Smith. Third round steal IMO.
 

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Macnalty;5043868 said:
IMO Chris Faulk was a first round talent until his injury(acl), now granted he needed some seasoning which he did not receive(by being injured), he was touted with the likes of Joeckel and the big OT from Michigan Taylor Lewan who withdrew from the draft. More in line with a Nate Newton build vs a Tyron Smith. Third round steal IMO.

I like Faulk as well. f he can be had in the 4th or 5th I would be very happy with that pick.
 

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supercowboy8;5043910 said:
I like Faulk as well. f he can be had in the 4th or 5th I would be very happy with that pick.

I like Faulk but Armstead is really intriguing. I could see them trying him as a red zone weapon TE on occasion.
 

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Chris Faulk LSU
Plays as a right tackle…can get movement…will bounce off blocks to get to second level…doesn’t have very quick feet…has some upper body strength to sit down on rushers…will lunge at times…can get a little high in his set…can work on the down block…doesn’t always sustain…doesn’t always make the cut off block…can be late off the ball….will catch and steer as a run blocker…doesn’t put himself in good blocking positions…will struggle with inside movement…better moving his feet on the reach block…missed the 2012 with a right knee injury…really question how quickly he can move his feet….might be a candidate to move inside for a team that runs more of a power scheme….
Faulk played Left Tackle.
 

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supercowboy8;5043827 said:
I don't understand how they put guys like Mills, Williams, and Faulk but not include Fragel.

I'm surprised that you like Fragel that much.

He does have good foot speed; however, he is a bit of a waist bender and gets over extended often. Being over extended causes him to get beat by quickness, but when he does not over extend, then he loses power.

His short arms are his biggest limitation.
 

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xwalker;5044323 said:
I'm surprised that you like Fragel that much.

He does have good foot speed; however, he is a bit of a waist bender and gets over extended often. Being over extended causes him to get beat by quickness, but when he does not over extend, then he loses power.

His short arms are his biggest limitation.



....saw him play at OSU and he was average and is new to the position: has physical limitations that xwalker pointed out: do not want.
 
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