Brugler updated mock

[ChuckA1]

No wide receiver in the first! Geez!

 

[NeonNinja]

Keep telling ya don't sleep on Mesidore .........age thing doesn't bother me at all. ( Brugler suggested it's not a big deal with NFL people)

Massive injury history too. I would not take him at 20.

 

[805BoysInBlue]

Avieon Terrell is feisty.

 

[reddyuta]

Massive injury history too. I would not take him at 20.

I won't be shocked if he lasts till late 2bd rd,too much risk for NFL teans.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I’m starting to be intrigued by the thought of Peter Woods at pick 20.

He’s versatile enough to play DE in certain alignments and could be developed to take over the 3-tech from Odighizuwa (cut bait trade Osa in a year or two).

 

[cnuball21]

I’m starting to be intrigued by the thought of Peter Woods at pick 20.

He’s versatile enough to play DE in certain alignments and could be developed to take over the 3-tech from Odighizuwa (cut bait trade Osa in a year or two).

If he falls that far no brainer IMO...

 

[LatinMind]

Could see maybe Cleveland trading up to jump ahead of steelers to take Simpson if it fell like that. Sanders isn't wanted in cleveland and Gabriel is trash.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Would you guys like Mansoor at 12 and Cj allen at 20?????

Definitely not

 

[darthseinfeld]

Keep telling ya don't sleep on Mesidore .........age thing doesn't bother me at all. ( Brugler suggested it's not a big deal with NFL people)

He is nice prospect, but I dont think he is a 1st round talent. I think he is a Dorance Armstrong type player in the NFL. Thats definitely a good player, but not something you spend a top 32 on. I like him if we move out of the first

 

[darthseinfeld]

I’m starting to be intrigued by the thought of Peter Woods at pick 20.

He’s versatile enough to play DE in certain alignments and could be developed to take over the 3-tech from Odighizuwa (cut bait trade Osa in a year or two).

Id take Woods at 12. He has top 5 level talent, just had a down year like all the Clemson players. I was saying before the season he is a bigger version of Quinnen Williams. Long term he would replace not only Odighizuwa, but Clark as well. And you could even wind up with him being an All Pro caliber DT when Williams is getting old.

Id sprint to the podium at 12 if he was there

 

[ScotsCowboy]

Mixed feelings on Terrell.

Like the player but if I’m going CB in R1 then I want a boundary corner. I see Terrell as a Jordan Lewis type which is needed but too rich for my blood at 20.

Good point, but If we could trade down to say 28 and still take Terrell, then get a boundary CB in the second, I’d be all for it.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Id take Woods at 12. He has top 5 level talent, just had a down year like all the Clemson players. I was saying before the season he is a bigger version of Quinnen Williams. Long term he would replace not only Odighizuwa, but Clark as well. And you could even wind up with him being an All Pro caliber DT when Williams is getting old.

Id sprint to the podium at 12 if he was there

The guy he actually reminds me of is Christian Wilkins (also a former Clemson Tiger). I see Q. Williams as more of a power player while Woods and Wilkins have special athleticism for their size, allowing them to be effective on stunts, et cetera.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

I dont think he is a 1st round talent.

And what does a 1st round talent at DE look like? That's the million-dollar question coz.......

 

[cnuball21]

And what does a 1st round talent at DE look like? That's the million-dollar question coz.......

Easy to me...

Size, length, athleticism and a plus production profile in a power 5 conference.

That is why Bailey is my only legit 1st round Edge.

 

[cnuball21]

Id take Woods at 12. He has top 5 level talent, just had a down year like all the Clemson players. I was saying before the season he is a bigger version of Quinnen Williams. Long term he would replace not only Odighizuwa, but Clark as well. And you could even wind up with him being an All Pro caliber DT when Williams is getting old.

Id sprint to the podium at 12 if he was there

It might not be popular opinion due to our current DT room but I would certainly be on board at 12.

He has a ton of position flexibility and I still think he can help you year 1.

And to your point maybe he is the Osa replacement or helps us get out of that contract if we need to.

 

[darthseinfeld]

And what does a 1st round talent at DE look like? That's the million-dollar question coz.......

Its definitely not a million dollar question. Pretty simple one actually. A 1st round talent at DE is a player that will have the necessary skills and measurables to be a catalyst for the defense and command the offenses attention.

Mesidor is a good player, but he will probably be more of a Dorance Armstrong or Darryl Tapp level player in the NFL as opposed to a catalytic player. He is a cross between a 7T DE and a 5T DE, but he doesnt fit at either enough to project as a high level starter at either spot. Thats a day 2 type player

 

[darthseinfeld]

It might not be popular opinion due to our current DT room but I would certainly be on board at 12.

He has a ton of position flexibility and I still think he can help you year 1.

And to your point maybe he is the Osa replacement or helps us get out of that contract if we need to.

The value is just too good. Draft is team building and talent acquisition and Woods would be a move on both fronts

 

[cnuball21]

The value is just too good. Draft is team building and talent acquisition and Woods would be a move on both fronts

I dont hate making a strength a super power.

Like you mentioned Woods can give you base D reps at DE.

 

[darthseinfeld]

I dont hate making a strength a super power.

Like you mentioned Woods can give you base D reps at DE.

It would also signify a shift in thinking at the position. After years of middling to poor results with day 3 DT's, they finally place a real premium on the position

 

[baltcowboy]

It would also signify a shift in thinking at the position. After years of middling to poor results with day 3 DT's, they finally place a real premium on the position

I think the Clemson triplets Woods, Parker, and Terrell have a good chance to go in the top 20. I wouldn’t complain if we got two of the three with our first round picks.