News: BTB: Dallas Cowboys News & Notes: Teammates Pushing For DeMarco Murray

[JoeBoBBY]

Then we should send Bailey packing to. He's making nearly as much as Jerry's offer to Murray and he was quite shaky at the
end of the season. Dez could have just made the catch and been down to, his extra effort really killed our chances.
Would have been nice to have the defense step up to.
So many things cost us that game, sure Murray hurt us but so did all the other mistakes and mishaps.

also. that was a heck of a play by future HOF all-world athlete Julius Peppers. The othe teams have good players too.

having said that. Demarco was right up there leading RBs in fumbles, I think Charles, KC, had a few more...?

it need to be cleaned up.

 

[RamziD]

There's lots of good RBs in this draft. No need to overpay Murray. Save that money for other FAs.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

also. that was a heck of a play by future HOF all-world athlete Julius Peppers. The othe teams have good players too.

having said that. Demarco was right up there leading RBs in fumbles, I think Charles, KC, had a few more...?

it need to be cleaned up.

Sure it needs to be fixed. It's just getting old as using it as THE play that cost us that game. Your right, Peppers made a great play.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

There's lots of good RBs in this draft. No need to overpay Murray. Save that money for other FAs.

There are great players in every draft that tank in the NFL.

 

[RamziD]

There are great players in every draft that tank in the NFL.

There are also RBs in the NFL who take a beating after nearly 400 touches and are never the same again. Don't overpay Demarco.

 

[Beast_from_East]

I am starting to change my stance on Murray.................at first I wanted the team to let the guy walk, but after seeing how much his teammates want him around I am concerned what it would do to the chemistry of the team to let Murray walk.

I might be willing to pay an extra million a year just to keep the team chemistry going. We got a good core with our "new triplets" and letting one of them walk might not be the best idea.

My max offer is in the $7-$8 million range.

 

[big dog cowboy]

My max offer is in the $7-$8 million range.

That would make me sick. Murray isn't that special. Spend the cash on defense.

 

[Setackin]

I've change my mind on this situation... if Witten Dez and Romo want him back then make it happen JJ. Consistency and stability are very important to a team.

But for the love of god draft someone in the top 3 rounds, his injury history CANT be overlooked!

 

[StarMan2112]

Then we should send Bailey packing to. He's making nearly as much as Jerry's offer to Murray and he was quite shaky at the
end of the season. Dez could have just made the catch and been down to, his extra effort really killed our chances.
Would have been nice to have the defense step up to.
So many things cost us that game, sure Murray hurt us but so did all the other mistakes and mishaps.

You obviously didn't read my post very carefully. Did I say that was THE play that cost us the game? Sure there were others, but that one hurt as much or more than any.

The other point I am making is that RBs are easier to find than any other position and this draft is loaded. Foolish to pay Murray or any RB huge money.

 

[tyke1doe]

Of course, the players wanting him cuts both ways. If Jerry Jones lowballs him or doesn't give Murray what he thinks he's worth, Jerry can say, "The team really wants you. Don't let money stand in the way of you remaining with the Cowboys."

 

[Dave_in-NC]

You obviously didn't read my post very carefully. Did I say that was THE play that cost us the game? Sure there were others, but that one hurt as much or more than any.

The other point I am making is that RBs are easier to find than any other position and this draft is loaded. Foolish to pay Murray or any RB huge money.

Took us a long time to find Murray after a lot of drafts and RBs. It's not as easy as some of you make it sound.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Paying a guy so you don't disrupt "chemistry"

That's the type of terrible decision making we've made in the past.

If Murray goes elsewhere and we go on to win 13 games next year. Do you think guys will walk around miserable because MMA got big money elsewhere?

Silly.

 

[MrPeanutbutter]

Paying a guy so you don't disrupt "chemistry"

That's the type of terrible decision making we've made in the past.

If Murray goes elsewhere and we go on to win 13 games next year. Do you think guys will walk around miserable because MMA got big money elsewhere?

Silly.

Agreed. Let someone else overpay for Murray's performance if need be.

 

[Nightman]

also. that was a heck of a play by future HOF all-world athlete Julius Peppers. The othe teams have good players too.

having said that. Demarco was right up there leading RBs in fumbles, I think Charles, KC, had a few more...?

it need to be cleaned up.

We should cut ZMartin also because he missed the block on Peppers

Dez has more fumbles than Murray so he should go as well

In fact Emmitt had a ton of fumbles so he should taken down from the RoH.

Not yelling at you, just venting about everyone putting Murray down after he just set the franchise record

 

[Danger]

We should cut ZMartin also because he missed the block on Peppers

Dez has more fumbles than Murray so he should go as well

In fact Emmitt had a ton of fumbles so he should taken down from the RoH.

Not yelling at you, just venting about everyone putting Murray down after he just set the franchise record

What? Dez has the same amount of fumbles as Murray (twelve) but has only lost five of them to Murray's eight.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Not yelling at you, just venting about everyone putting Murray down after he just set the franchise record

One play sealed his fate. Hold onto the ball and take it 50 yards for a TD against GB and everyone would be up all night nervous about losing Murray and screaming at Jerry to hurry up and sign him.

 

[ConstantReboot]

There are also RBs in the NFL who take a beating after nearly 400 touches and are never the same again. Don't overpay Demarco.

I think the Cowboys know what their up against with Murray. However, who's to say that he can't be productive again even with that many carries?

 

[Eskimo]

Of course his teammates want to keep him around. He is a great teammate and was very productive.

However, the issue is how easily that production can be replaced at a markedly reduced price from other RBs on the team, FA and the draft.

RBs just aren't worth what they used to be and that is the reason that so few of them are ever picked in the first round anymore. This year there should be a number of reasonably priced vet options in FA and it is supposed to be a deep RB draft.

In terms of Murray himself, he looked really worn down by the last four games of the regular season. He just can't take that kind of beating with that running style. The last RB we had like him was also all downhill after his fourth season (Marion Barber) and he was actually used a lot less than Murray has been. I'm sure there are still some scars left from giving Barber that 5 year $40M contract when they could have just signed him to a RFA tender that offseason. This was just another case of Jerry getting overly attached to his players and thinking his money would buy player loyalty and future performance. Well it didn't and it won't in the future either. You pay them as little as you fairly can to make the team as strong as possible because the salary cap is a zero sum game.

We will make some attempt to re-sign him because the fans and teammates expect us to do so after the productivity he demonstrated last year. However, he is not special and we must maintain cap discipline for more important players such as a pass rushing DL.

 

[BAT]

Of course his teammates want to keep him around. He is a great teammate and was very productive.

However, the issue is how easily that production can be replaced at a markedly reduced price from other RBs on the team, FA and the draft.

RBs just aren't worth what they used to be and that is the reason that so few of them are ever picked in the first round anymore. This year there should be a number of reasonably priced vet options in FA and it is supposed to be a deep RB draft.

In terms of Murray himself, he looked really worn down by the last four games of the regular season. He just can't take that kind of beating with that running style. The last RB we had like him was also all downhill after his fourth season (Marion Barber) and he was actually used a lot less than Murray has been. I'm sure there are still some scars left from giving Barber that 5 year $40M contract when they could have just signed him to a RFA tender that offseason. This was just another case of Jerry getting overly attached to his players and thinking his money would buy player loyalty and future performance. Well it didn't and it won't in the future either. You pay them as little as you fairly can to make the team as strong as possible because the salary cap is a zero sum game.

We will make some attempt to re-sign him because the fans and teammates expect us to do so after the productivity he demonstrated last year. However, he is not special and we must maintain cap discipline for more important players such as a pass rushing DL.

RBs are not worth much to most teams because their offenses are pass oriented in an era of passing. Cowboys, like Seattle, are run oriented offenses. And Murray was responsible for setting the tone and identity of Cowboys new offense per Garrett and his teammates.

Some people are finally understanding how important Murray has been to this team's success, now and going forward, others not so much.

 

[HappyOnions]

Guy was a huge part of our success this season and everyone wants to dump him...

He moved the chains more than any other back in the league. Picked up first downs, was good in pass protection...just a complete back. The fumbles can be fixed.

You really want to build a complete team? Let Dez walk and you can pretty much rebuild the entire defense.