News: BTB: ESPN calls Cowboys Dak Prescott a Tier 3 quarterback, behind two other NFC East QBs

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CalPolyTechnique said:
Then you must believe Dak blew last year's playoff game throwing that INT at the LOS right at Micah Hyde, right?
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a false equivalent

iirc, Prescott was torn to shreds by some on here, hell there were calls to put Romo in when we were behind.

Furthermore, an INT early in the game when he brought the team back to tie it twice late in the game is not the same as throwing it to Malcolm Butler at the goalline when he could have checked out of the play, handed it off and been a back to back SB winner
 
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CanadianCowboysFan said:
a false equivalent

iirc, Prescott was torn to shreds by some on here, hell there were calls to put Romo in when we were behind.

Furthermore, an INT early in the game when he brought the team back to tie it twice late in the game is not the same as throwing it to Malcolm Butler at the goalline when he could have checked out of the play, handed it off and been a back to back SB winner
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Dak was blamed by very few, if any, on here after that game.

Garrett got most of the criticism, for various reasons.
 
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CanadianCowboysFan said:
a false equivalent

iirc, Prescott was torn to shreds by some on here, hell there were calls to put Romo in when we were behind.

Furthermore, an INT early in the game when he brought the team back to tie it twice late in the game is not the same as throwing it to Malcolm Butler at the goalline when he could have checked out of the play, handed it off and been a back to back SB winner
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And Dak couldn't have checked out of the play when he clearly saw Hyde creeping in at the LOS?
 
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I always thought the first priority for a quarterback was to consistently lead his team on scoring drives in an effort to win games.

The Cowboy record was 13-3, which included an 11 game winning streak

Put him at the top of Tier #1

Of course, it's critical that he minimizes mistakes, especially turnovers.

Dak set a new NFL record for pass attempts until his first INT. Last season he was ranked 2nd in lowest INT pct,,,,,,behind only Tom Brady.

Put him at the top of Tier #1.

Making plays under pressure, being innovative with the game on the line can be some pretty important stuff

As great as the offensive line was, there were a few critical times where Dak was on the run.
Nobody scored more running TD's than Dak Prescott.

Tier #1

Accuracy?

Dak was the 4th most accurate passer, but sure, the Cowboys are the only team with a good offensive line. Still....

Tier #1

Leadership is a pretty important trait, both on the field and off, practices or games. Did Dak show traits of leadership? Does he seem to be calm and cool around his teammates in critical situations, thus inspiring confidence/? How does that compare with all other QB's in the league. Dividing the 32 teams into 5 tiers, where would Dak rank?

A 4th round draft pick rookie player went out there and led his team to the playoffs. There were come from behind wins, there were critical plays that had to be made by Dak. How often did he appeared flustered? Was that responsible for any losses, did Dak choke during a one point loss, a three point loss, a loss after being taken out of a meaningless game, and a loss in the last 35 seconds of a playoff game in which he tied the score after being down by 18? Dak's leadership and maturity was extremely rare for a rookie in the NFL. Every time analysts expected a rookie meltdown , he looked like he did it a million times before.

Tier #1

Consider potential. What does the future hold for this player and his team? Going forward, is he temporary, the best they had left after two injuries to those in front of him in the depth chart? Is he a mere bridge until the Cowboys trade up into the top five to get a "real" franchise quarterback? Where is he in his NFL career at this point, the peak of his career, the twilight, or is he just beginning. Is he someone a team can be built around, Is he a franchise quarterback?

No comment needed

Tier #1

I wouldn't trade Dak for a #1 overall draft pick. I wouldn't trade him for any other QB presently in this league. I wouldn't trade him for any other player still active. He is exactly what personnel experts in this league are paid to look for. They are very rarely found, even in the #1 overall pick in the draft. In any other franchise, the guy who evaluated and recommended him would be on the fast track to the GM position.

Dak is a Tier #1 quarterback, that is a statistical fact, a logical conclusion, a Captain Obvious quote. It is no more of an opinion than the mathematical statement 1+1=2.
 
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It's fair to say that he's behind Cousins and Manning, the guy has played one year.
 
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MichaelWinicki said:
And I don't understand that.

His one great stat is a season of 40 TD's.

But that comes with a completion percentage of less than 60% (which is not very good for this era) and a bunch of picks.

I don't get why all the adulation he receives from the media.
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I believe with Luck, it's the same as with Wentz - all the "experts" had him before the draft as off the charts, potentially, a generational type pick, and he has disappointed. Rather than say, "I was wrong," they continue to mention his name (and Wentz's) as if their on-the-field performance warrants exceptional praise. These guys have all the "tools" why are they producing at the highest level? "Oh well, you see, if ...."
 
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JJHLH1 said:
The ESPN panalists must have missed Dak's performance in the playoff game against GB. Dak went toe to toe with Aaron Rogers and arguably outplayed him. Leading the team back from an 21-3 deficit, including a 15 point deficit in the 4th quarter to tie the game twice was pure greatness.
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WE took the lead but your point is well made.
 
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The dumbest argument I hear when it comes to Dak is "he was only good because of the weapons around him...."

What good quarterback has lousy weapons around him?
And i've seen other qb's have these same weapons around them and it resulted in zero wins.

Tom Brady doesn't have weapons? Rodgers doesn't? Ben Roethlisberger has arguably the best running back in the league and the best receiving corp....Carson Palmer has weapons......

Just a lazy thing to use in a argument.

If you want to say he's a rookie and only has one year under his belt? I could understand that argument. But don't use his weapons around him as a reason to knock him. Jay Cutler as a VETERAN had Matt Forte, Brandon Marshall, Martellus Bennett and Alshon Jeffrey's in their prime and could do NOTHING with them. Carson Palmer had Rudi Johnson, Chad Johnson, TJ and Chris Henry and could do NOTHING. You still have to go out there and play.
 
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