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BTB: Gil Brandt ranked his top five Dallas Cowboys quarterbacks, Prescott was three and Romo 5

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by America's Cowboy, May 28, 2020.

  1. Jake

    Jake Curmudgeon

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    What the heck does Gil Brandt know about NFL talent evaluation? :muttley:
     
  2. America's Cowboy

    America's Cowboy Well-Known Member

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    Why should the thread be closed?

    :popcorn:
     
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  3. MyFairLady

    MyFairLady Well-Known Member

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    I will start by saying I like Dak as a QB and feel that a team can be successful with him. Having said that it is insane to put him ahead of Romo at this point. Romo spent almost 10 years well inside the top 10 in passer rating. Dak was inside the top 10 his first year when he was not being asked to do a lot and was a serious running threat. Since then he has been 18th, 14th and 10th. He has been quite simply average in his passing effectiveness.
     
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  4. Pantone282C

    Pantone282C Zone Supporter

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    That's some lofty comparisons. He's gotta get some pelts on the wall before going further up the list. At least NFCCGs and or SBs.
    That's some lofty comparisons. He's gotta get some pelts on the wall before getting that high up the list. At least some NFCCGs and SBs.
     
  5. America's Cowboy

    America's Cowboy Well-Known Member

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    You call a 99.7 passer rating for Dak as "average"? And that's because his receivers led the league in drops (51)! Imagine if they had caught half of them (26)? Dak's passer rating would have been well above 110. But you're calling a 99.7 passer rating ... "average"?

    :facepalm:
     
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  6. LandryFan

    LandryFan Proud Native Texan, USMC-1972-79, USN-1983-2000 Zone Supporter

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    Go look at the stats of some of the HOF QB's from back then. Many of them were INT machines relative to today's QB's. These are lietime stats from just a few notable/familiar QB's:

    Staubach: 153 TD - 109 INT
    Aikman: 165 TD - 141 INT
    Danny White: 155 TD - 132 INT
    Dandy Don: 135 TD - 111 INT
    Tarkenton: 342 TD - 266 INT
    Bradshaw: 212 TD - 210 INT
    Baugh: 187 TD - 203 INT

    When your receivers can be mugged all the way down the field, and there's practically no such thing as roughing the QB, you're going to throw a lot more dangerous passes than has to be thrown in today's pansy (relatively speaking) league. When the league changed the rules to prevent DB's from breathing on a receiver or DLinemen from touching a QB, the stats changed along with the rules. You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but for the era Danny White played in, he was certainly not an INT machine (and he was a pretty darned good punter, to boot).
     
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  7. dogberry

    dogberry Well-Known Member

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    Craig Morton deserves mention.

    Took two teams to Super Bowls.
     
  8. Pantone282C

    Pantone282C Zone Supporter

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    I've seen him mentioned in the top ten list of Cowboy QBs on web sites over the years.
     
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  9. Darkhound

    Darkhound Well-Known Member

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    Thank you sir.
     
  10. PA Cowboy Fan

    PA Cowboy Fan Well-Known Member

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    :hammer:
     
  11. Polkton31

    Polkton31 Well-Known Member

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    The comments about Gil Brandt are just nonsense. If the guy had said, "Dak doesn't even make the top twenty" the anti-Dak crowd would be singing his praises and saying how intelligent the guy is. But... Since he says, "Dak is number 3" well... the guy is old, senile, and in Stage 5 Dementia. Whether or not you agree with the list... doesn't mean you have to attack a legend like Brandt. So... His opinion is different than yours... So what. I will say this though. Gil has been around football longer than most of the posters on this forum have been alive.
     
  12. Rockport

    Rockport AmberBeer Zone Supporter

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    Another Hall of Famer and legend solidly in favor of Dak. This will be great reading what the haters say about this. Give em a little rope......
     
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  13. Rockport

    Rockport AmberBeer Zone Supporter

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    I watched all of these guys play and couldn't agree more. And Dak has a chance to move up before his career is over.
     
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  14. Rockport

    Rockport AmberBeer Zone Supporter

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    :lmao::lmao:
     
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  15. Rockport

    Rockport AmberBeer Zone Supporter

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    Bless your heart for being so ignorant.
     
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  16. dfense

    dfense Well-Known Member

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    Here's my question.

    What is the criteria you are judging? Wins? playoff wins? clutch situations? stats? length of career?

    Meredith had a 50% career comp % He couldn't even be a starter on a team today. Aikman career average per game was 199 yards. White, Staubach and Meredith all played in an era that wasn't as wide open and less games a season.

    Here would be my list.

    Staubach - 85-29 as a starter. 11-6 playoff record 2 SB wins, SB MVP, 6 Pro Bowls, 3rd in 4th quarter comebacks, 2nd in game winning drives.
    Aikman - 94-71 as a starter. 11-4 playoff record 3 SB wins, SB MVP, 6 Pro Bowls, most attempts and completions, but also most picks.
    Romo - 78-49 as a starter. 2-3 playoff record holds club records for TD's, yards, completion%, YPA, QBR, 1st in 4th quarter comebacks, 1st in game winning drives.

    Seventy-five of Romo's 248 career touchdown passes came in the fourth quarter. That's three more fourth-quarter touchdown passes than Staubach and Aikman had combined.

    These three stand apart from the rest of the field, at least for now.

    Much harder to list the next two. I'd have to leave Meredith off the list. How Brandt has him over Romo is beyond me. Romo has TWICE as many yards passing, TWICE as many TD's as Meredith. Maybe Gil was a fan of North Dallas Forty or Willy Nelson's "turn out the lights the party's over." He did get to the championship game twice, but lost both, one by a bad pick at the end.

    I'd have White and Dak a really close 4 and 5. I imagine Dak is going to pass him stat wise in the next year or so, White has the 5-5 playoff record, but Dak will overtake him in a several categories in the next couple years. Ironically, Dak is in the same boat Romo was in at this point in their careers. Pretty good, but still waiting for them to take the next step.
     
  17. rocyaice

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    I mean it would feel weird putting him ahead Aikman and Roger. Romo doesn’t hold the same weight as those two.
     
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  18. dfense

    dfense Well-Known Member

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    You keep cheering for your boy there boss. I'll root to.
     
  19. Super_Kazuya

    Super_Kazuya Well-Known Member

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    Because it’s already been posted not long ago and you’re clearly trolling? Are you going senile? It wasn’t even that long ago and you posted in the thread. You really can’t find something else for your daily Dak spam?
     
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  20. landroverking

    landroverking Well-Known Member

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    I would not have Dak in the top five.
     

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