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Romo vs. The Clutch

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by One.Cool.Customer on Jun 28, 2009 12:02 PM CDT
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I joined this blog about two months ago, enjoy it immensely, and have been checking in almost daily ever since. One thing that has surprised me is the amount of flack Romo is getting on this site, a Cowboys site no less. While often entertaining, and sometimes flat out ridiculous, this love/hate relationship with our Pro Bowl QB made me go back and take an in-depth look at the stats, trying to figure out in my first fanpost which side of the 'argument' has more merit.

Romo vs. the Clutch
First off, how to define Clutch? Well, I looked at four different stats that come close to describing clutch situations in a game, and together add up to a pretty good clutch performance overview. Three of the four rely QB rating, and while that stat is getting a lot of criticism, in is also widely accepted as a valid measure of QB performance
  • 4th Quarter QB Rating: How efficient is a QB late in the game?
  • 4th Quarter QB rating with the score +/- 7 points: Late game, high pressure situations. If not now, when?
  • Red Zone QB rating: How does a QB perform in the Red Zone throughout the game?
  • 3rd down conversion: How efficient is the QB at maintaining drives throughout the game?
2008 Regular Season, QBs with most starts per team

http://i356.***BLOCKED***/albums/oo4/DallasEast1701/jchocolate82chart.png

The stats show that Romo has performed exceedingly well in "clutch" situations. And 2008 is no fluke. He has similar stats for both 06 & 07. So why is he being called out by fans and media alike as a choker? Geth13 provided some insightful comments in response to a recent fanshot, showing that much of the criticism is based on 'circumstantial' evidence like a bobbled hold, a dropped pass or a stumbling tight end.

One of my favorite 'circumstantial' football stats is the so-called 'fourth-quarter comeback' which is often taken as a mark of true greatness for QBs. Puuhleease! Has anyone ever considered that in order to make a fourth-quarter comeback, you have to be behind?

Arguably, most quarterbacks are not much affected by clutch situations. Are you really surprised at the names you see in the Top 7 or the Bottom 7 on the list? Top QBs (and Brady would be right up there) play at a very high level in both normal situations and clutch situations. The same is usually found on the bottom of the list. Most mediocre quarterbacks remain that way in the clutch. They don't become good, nor do they shrink and become terrible.

So what gives with the Romo bashing?

Rightly or wrongly, the QB gets way too much credit for winning, and blame for losing, games. Credit that, either way, properly belongs to the whole team - and the impact of chance, injuries and contingency are also greatly underestimated.

Romo may not (yet) be Staubach or Aikman reincarnated, but he's a lot better than anything we've had since - or does anybody want to talk about Bledsoe, Testaverde, Carter …. He's winning games for us, and in my book that beats 3 consecutive 5-11 seasons hands down.

Romo is clearly one of the best in the league when he has protection and/or is able to move outside the pocket. The key to getting the most out of Romo this year will be improved playcalling and passblocking. The team has improved in several areas vs. who we had last year, and yes that explicitly includes our WR’s. From what I can see right now, if Romo doesn't have to force the ball to any particular receiver (*coughterrellowenscough*), Garrett finds ways to exploit the run game a bit more and Wade keeps running the D all season long to live up to the recent OTA hype, this team looks dangerously good. If we can stay moderately healthy at the key spots, especially on the OL, then I see a minimum 11-5 easily, and playoff glory beckoning.

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2009/...-vs-the-clutch
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I found this on another board and thought it would be interesting to post here. Can someone help me to format the stats better I cant figure out how
 

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jchocolate82;2829659 said:
So what gives with the Romo bashing?

Rightly or wrongly, the QB gets way too much credit for winning, and blame for losing, games. Credit that, either way, properly belongs to the whole team - and the impact of chance, injuries and contingency are also greatly underestimated.


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That's my opinion on why. Romo has been part of the problem, because we are a team--but he unfairly gets the blame as though he alone is the main reason for our failures. The truth is, the team as a whole has fallen apart in clutch situations.
 

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Tovya;2829661 said:
That's my opinion on why. Romo has been part of the problem, because we are a team--but he unfairly gets the blame as though he alone is the main reason for our failures. The truth is, the team as a whole has fallen apart in clutch situations.

I still say it has nothing to do with "Romo Bashing". Go back to when he hosted "In the Huddle" and listen to some of his answers. They were working out a deal then and I think Jerry Jones has put together a PR group to keep the Cowboys and that includes "Romo" in the headlines in order to keep the new stadium and team on the front pages twelve months out of the year.
Look at the different topics
He is fat????????
She is fat
He is a bad player for what ever reason
the team is to blame
he is a choker
she is pregenant
he should not play golf
and the train has been up and down the tracks so many times over the past two years, the stories have gotten old.
Maybe they should put his "real" girl friend on the front page, that would stir the pot.
I don't worry about him getting "the blame", he knows what is going on and even told Laufenberg back in Jan. that they laugh over how much bad press they get. Go back and refressh your memory. It is there on tape.
 

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I wonder if anyone has the stats to prove Ware as a clutch pass rusher? Im sick of this Ware bashing on this site!
 

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jchocolate82;2829659 said:
Romo vs. The Clutch

jessica_simpson_tony_romo_main_tiny.jpg
by One.Cool.Customer on Jun 28, 2009 12:02 PM CDT
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I joined this blog about two months ago, enjoy it immensely, and have been checking in almost daily ever since. One thing that has surprised me is the amount of flack Romo is getting on this site, a Cowboys site no less. While often entertaining, and sometimes flat out ridiculous, this love/hate relationship with our Pro Bowl QB made me go back and take an in-depth look at the stats, trying to figure out in my first fanpost which side of the 'argument' has more merit.

Romo vs. the Clutch
First off, how to define Clutch? Well, I looked at four different stats that come close to describing clutch situations in a game, and together add up to a pretty good clutch performance overview. Three of the four rely QB rating, and while that stat is getting a lot of criticism, in is also widely accepted as a valid measure of QB performance
  • 4th Quarter QB Rating: How efficient is a QB late in the game?
  • 4th Quarter QB rating with the score +/- 7 points: Late game, high pressure situations. If not now, when?
  • Red Zone QB rating: How does a QB perform in the Red Zone throughout the game?
  • 3rd down conversion: How efficient is the QB at maintaining drives throughout the game?
2008 Regular Season, QBs with most starts per team

http://i356.***BLOCKED***/albums/oo4/DallasEast1701/jchocolate82chart.png

The stats show that Romo has performed exceedingly well in "clutch" situations. And 2008 is no fluke. He has similar stats for both 06 & 07. So why is he being called out by fans and media alike as a choker? Geth13 provided some insightful comments in response to a recent fanshot, showing that much of the criticism is based on 'circumstantial' evidence like a bobbled hold, a dropped pass or a stumbling tight end.

One of my favorite 'circumstantial' football stats is the so-called 'fourth-quarter comeback' which is often taken as a mark of true greatness for QBs. Puuhleease! Has anyone ever considered that in order to make a fourth-quarter comeback, you have to be behind?

Arguably, most quarterbacks are not much affected by clutch situations. Are you really surprised at the names you see in the Top 7 or the Bottom 7 on the list? Top QBs (and Brady would be right up there) play at a very high level in both normal situations and clutch situations. The same is usually found on the bottom of the list. Most mediocre quarterbacks remain that way in the clutch. They don't become good, nor do they shrink and become terrible.

So what gives with the Romo bashing?

Rightly or wrongly, the QB gets way too much credit for winning, and blame for losing, games. Credit that, either way, properly belongs to the whole team - and the impact of chance, injuries and contingency are also greatly underestimated.

Romo may not (yet) be Staubach or Aikman reincarnated, but he's a lot better than anything we've had since - or does anybody want to talk about Bledsoe, Testaverde, Carter …. He's winning games for us, and in my book that beats 3 consecutive 5-11 seasons hands down.

Romo is clearly one of the best in the league when he has protection and/or is able to move outside the pocket. The key to getting the most out of Romo this year will be improved playcalling and passblocking. The team has improved in several areas vs. who we had last year, and yes that explicitly includes our WR’s. From what I can see right now, if Romo doesn't have to force the ball to any particular receiver (*coughterrellowenscough*), Garrett finds ways to exploit the run game a bit more and Wade keeps running the D all season long to live up to the recent OTA hype, this team looks dangerously good. If we can stay moderately healthy at the key spots, especially on the OL, then I see a minimum 11-5 easily, and playoff glory beckoning.

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2009/...-vs-the-clutch
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compile romo's december numbers,that will show you how he performs in the clutch..
 

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skinswin;2829772 said:
compile romo's december numbers,that will show you how he performs in the clutch..

I love redefining words.
 

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skinswin;2829772 said:
compile romo's december numbers,that will show you how he performs in the clutch..

ya know I was going to actually bring that up.

romo is not as good in december and most QBs are not.

especially not ones playing a lot of east coast football.

teams generally get beat up and the qb's play suffers.

Because Romo is right there with the top 2 or 3 QBs all year when his numbers fall to say Jason Campbell level than everyone thinks he choked or was awful.

But no QB stays amazingly hot all year.

December is a legit gripe for the Cowboys and for Tony Romo.

In case you were wondering Jason Campbell's december QB rating is in the 60s.


Romo is in the 70's in QB rating for December.
 
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