NorthTexan95
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They needed only five more sacks to tie for 5th. It's doable if we get someone to break out.
BTB: The Dallas Cowboys as a Top-5 team in sacks? Surprise, it could happen
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They needed only five more sacks to tie for 5th. It's doable if we get someone to break out.
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Ok. Your right. My calculator failed me. I'll give you that. But I've notice your a 'glass half empty guy'.. I'm more optimistic than that. As a fan, I can't see myself being negative though. I see your point and maybe your right.. BUT
-We agree on Collins, yet all outlets predict he'll have a better season than 5sacks.. I've seen where some are suggesting 8-10. I'll reserve the right to stick with 6.
-Mayowa lead the team with six largely bc of a late season surge where he was averaging almost a sack a game towards the end of the season all the while rotating in & out. I'll play it safe with 5.
-It's well documented how T.Crawford and Lawrence was playing hurt most of the season due to lack of depth at the position and Crawford still managed 4.5.. I'm not a huge Crawford fan, but I do like his grit. He gets 5 this year.
- Lawrence is healthy and in a contract year. He needs this year to get paid. And it's curious how these players seem to typically shine in these situations.. bold prediction. He gets 8-10 sacks. Bet.
- your vastly selling Irving short. Dude had 3 sacks in two games late last year and demonstrated dominance at times.. so yes, he could easily grab 5 sacks in 12 games this year. When the light comes on, he will be unstoppable.
- Taco, well he's green, but he's already shown he can get sacks this preseason in very limited play and he will only improve as the year goes on.
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The majority of those who are skeptical didn,t even know they were ranked 13th last season. You all know it's true.
But here is the lesson:
In the three out of four years the Cowboys won a Super Bowl they were ranked 13th, 19th, and 15th in sacks. In the one year they didn't, they were ranked 2nd.
Sacks are fun to see but they really aren't that relevant in the end.
Last season the top 5 teams in sacks averaged an 8-8 season. Only Seattle had double digit wins at 10-5-1.
The bottom five, which included Oakland and Kansas City, were also 8-8.
It is constant pressure that is important, making the quarterback uncomfortable, hurrying his throws, not getting time to get his reads.
Super Bowl teams typically share these traits:
They can score points.
They rank high in turnover margin.
The Cowboys were a top ten team in turnover margin in three of the four seasons 1992-1995 when they won three Super Bowls. They were ranked 11th in 1995.
The Patriots have been to seven Super Bowls in the past 16 seasons. They have been a top ten team in turnover margin 14 of them.
Almost every Super Bowl championship teams ranked very high in turnover margin there are only a couple rare exceptions.
The Cowboys have been ranked #9 in three of the four past seasons, 2015 is the only exception.
In other words, the defensive line does not need drastic improvement, they just need to get incrementally better. They are doing that.
But here is the lesson:
In the three out of four years the Cowboys won a Super Bowl they were ranked 13th, 19th, and 15th in sacks. In the one year they didn't, they were ranked 2nd.
Sacks are fun to see but they really aren't that relevant in the end.
Last season the top 5 teams in sacks averaged an 8-8 season. Only Seattle had double digit wins at 10-5-1.
The bottom five, which included Oakland and Kansas City, were also 8-8.
It is constant pressure that is important, making the quarterback uncomfortable, hurrying his throws, not getting time to get his reads.
Super Bowl teams typically share these traits:
They can score points.
They rank high in turnover margin.
The Cowboys were a top ten team in turnover margin in three of the four seasons 1992-1995 when they won three Super Bowls. They were ranked 11th in 1995.
The Patriots have been to seven Super Bowls in the past 16 seasons. They have been a top ten team in turnover margin 14 of them.
Almost every Super Bowl championship teams ranked very high in turnover margin there are only a couple rare exceptions.
The Cowboys have been ranked #9 in three of the four past seasons, 2015 is the only exception.
In other words, the defensive line does not need drastic improvement, they just need to get incrementally better. They are doing that.
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I don't know about top five in the league, but I don't think an improvement of four sacks is so far out of the question.
Incidentally, the vaunted NYFG pass rush ended last season with 35, and they lost their best interior pocket pusher.
Incidentally, the vaunted NYFG pass rush ended last season with 35, and they lost their best interior pocket pusher.
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Thank you for pointing out the Turn Over Margin. Great point.. our secondary was one of the worst in terms of turnovers.. hence the high personnel turnover via last offseason.
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Speaking of interior pocket passers.. I believe Stephen Paea is the Xfactor this season. I don't mean in terms of sacks (although he did have 6 under Marinelli's tutelage). In terms of what he'll create for others.. he should relieve some of the double teams on Collins, which will help free him up to create havoc up the middle of the pocket. Which should also domino, by pushing opposing QBs to the edges for our DEs to make plays.
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Irving is a restricted free agent next year... Not that I do not expect him to improve...
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/david-irving-17136/
stilltheguru88
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Either way, if he balls out a team will match Dallas offer. We'd have no leverage in the situation really
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Teams have four different tender options they can place on their restricted free agent that usually keeps those players from leaving.
1.First-round tender: Free agent can negotiate with other teams, but original team has option to match any deal and will receive a first-round selection if it opts not to match the deal.
2.Second-round tender: Free agent can negotiate with other teams, but original team has option to match any deal and will receive a second-round selection if it opts not to match the deal.
3.Original-round tender: Free agent can negotiate with other teams, but original team has option to match any deal and will receive a selection equal to the round the player was originally selected in if it opts not to match the deal.
4.Right of first refusal: Free agent can negotiate with other teams, but original team has option to match any deal. The team will not receive any compensation if it opts not to match another deal.
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More importantly, Lawrence is healthy.
He was "Limited" in every single practice all of last season.
stilltheguru88
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Contract year tends to heal people. Just my opinion judging certain players. Mo, DLaw, etc
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Your on.
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It's like they projected every single player who steps on the field this year to meet or exceed his career highs. That would be fantastic! But...highly unlikely.
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Cowboys defense line will be better then what people are thinking. Collin 8 sacks, Lawrence 7, mayowa 5.5, Crawford 5. Lawrence will be going after that pay day for sure
