Bunkley a Potential Hold Out

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Posted on Wed, Jul. 26, 2006

Bunkley, Birds getting entrenched in contract dispute

By LES BOWEN

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BETHLEHEM - Suddenly, both sides in the Brodrick Bunkley signing drama seem to be settling in for a long, cold war.

Officially, there was little comment on the talks from either side yesterday, as the Eagles' first-round draft choice missed the first day of live, two-a-day full-squad workouts. Unofficially, sources close to each party say they're getting extremely exasperated with each another. They also say that what has been reported recently is true - the holdup is not money, but the term of the deal.

Under the new collective bargaining agreement, draftees No. 1 through 16 in the first round can be signed to 6-year contracts. Draftees 17 through 32 can't be signed for longer than 5 years. The Eagles, who drafted Bunkley at No. 14, seem dug in on the idea of getting 6 years before the defensive tackle from Florida State can become a free agent. Gary Wich-ard, who represents Bunkley, seems adamant about taking nothing longer than 5 years, except perhaps a 6-year deal that voids to 5 if Bunkley becomes a starter.

The sides seem to be trying hard not to say anything inflammatory, though that could change, as the impasse deepens. Through a spokesman, Eagles coach Andy Reid conveyed yesterday that he is officially disappointed in Wichard for not getting Bunkley to camp by now. The coach's position is that Bunkley, penciled in as part of a four-man d-tackle rotation, is falling behind and imperiling his rookie year.

Wichard refused to comment yesterday when told of Reid's statement. A players association source sympathetic to Wichard's position said Wichard has represented quite a few players around the middle of the first round in recent years, and has never taken a 6-year deal. Before this year and the new CBA, there was no limit on the length of first-round deals.

Team president Joe Banner declined to specify why the Eagles think a 6-year deal is important. Obviously, the longer the deal, the longer the player waits to become a free agent, and the longer the term over which the team can amortize a signing bonus. Last year, the Birds' first-round pick was defensive tackle Mike Patterson, taken 31st overall. He signed a 5-year deal. Guard Shawn Andrews, taken 16th in 2004, and defensive end Jerome McDougle, taken 15th in 2003, signed 6-year deals that both sides agreed were easily voidable to 5, the kind of deal Wichard apparently wants for Bunkley. Andrews has since signed through 2015.

That, too, is said to frustrate the Bunkley camp - the Eagles have a history of approaching good, young players for extensions long before their rookie deals expire. If they ultimately do the same with Bunkley, the difference between 5 and 6 years will be only a bit of leverage in extension talks.

In McDougle's case, the term was a big enough issue that 6 days elapsed between the time rookies were supposed to report and the eventual agreement between the Birds and agent Drew Rosenhaus. That was the Eagles' longest rookie impasse since defensive tackle Corey Simon, taken sixth overall in 2000, missed the first 2 weeks of camp.

This year's Eagles rookies reported 6 days ago. They have been on the field 5 days now. Initially, team sources downplayed Bunkley's absence; the feeling seemed to be that he would sign within a few days. That feeling clearly has changed.

Eagles management hoped that when Cleveland signed defensive end Kamerion Wimbley over the weekend, the Bunkley deal would fall into place, since Wimbley was drafted 13th. Sources on both sides of the matter say Wichard does not like the Wimbley deal, which was only the second contract signed in the first round, with most teams not reporting until late this week. The Eagles went to Lehigh a week early because they have an extra preseason game, the Hall of Fame Game on Aug. 6 in Canton, Ohio.

Wimbley and agent Joe Linta took a 6-year deal. Other agents raised their eyebrows at that, since Linta also represents Browns coach Romeo Crennel. A source close to the Bunkley situation said yesterday that the catalyst probably will be more deals getting done in the middle of the first round. If other players among the top 16 take 6-year deals, Wichard and Bunkley presumably will have to concede. But every time a pick eligible to be signed for 6 years signs for 5 - as seventh overall pick Michael Huff did this week, with the Raiders - it's more reinforcement for Bunkley and Wichard.
 

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Woods said:
Hold your ground, Bunkley! :)

Yeah, stick it to the man. Who said life w/o TO would get easier.:p:
 

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Pinkston's other Achilles' acts up, so he sits outBy LES BOWEN
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BETHLEHEM - William Thomas, formerly Tra, provided no opportunity for a new round of hand-wringing yesterday. After sitting out Monday's training camp practice for what Eagles coach Andy Reid said were precautionary reasons, Thomas took every rep in both sessions yesterday at left tackle and looked just fine.

So it was left for wideout Todd Pinkston to produce the daily round of angst, the familiar "this might be nothing, but then again... " situation.

Pinkston, recovering from right Achilles' tendon surgery, experienced swelling in his other Achilles' after Monday's first full-squad workout and did not practice yesterday.

"We'll work to get that out, and see how he does here in the next couple of days," Reid said.

Asked about other situations where one Achilles' problem might have led to another, Reid was hardly comforting. Reid said Raiders receiver Ronald Curry "went through a situation where he had a couple of Achilles' tendons and actually ruptured one of them twice and ruptured the other one."

Reid probably was looking for a player at Pinkston's position. Otherwise, he could have cited former Eagles defensive tackle Paul Grasmanis, whose career declined through three Achilles' injuries, two to his right foot and one to his left. It doesn't seem to be the sort of thing you just rehab and forget about.

"So, we saw a little bit of inflammation in there," Reid said, moving back to Pinkston. "He said his feet have been bothering him, so we just backed off a little bit and made sure we're smart with it."

Later in his news conference, Reid identified Pinkston and fullback Thomas Tapeh (hamstring) as the sidelined Eagles who seem closest to returning to action. As he limped off to lunch, Pinkston smiled and told reporters he felt "fine."

But Eagles fans, hardly thrilled to begin with over management's notion that Pinkston's return significantly improves a nondes-cript-looking receiving corps, now are officially free to wonder what the pass-catching corps will look like if Pinkston doesn't get back to his preinjury level.

Yesterday, rookie Hank Baskett got a lot of reps with the first- and second-teamers. Baskett is the big (6-4, 220) high-leaping wideout from New Mexico the Eagles weren't able to sign as a rookie free agent, then traded Billy McMullen to Minnesota to acquire. He won't make up for Pinkston's speed, but he's an interesting player who seems to have some upside.

"I definitely got quite a bit of reps; I'm excited with that," Baskett said yesterday. "That's showing that the hard work is paying off."

But the biggest, flashiest weapon in Donovan McNabb's arsenal yesterday was tight end L.J. Smith. Smith said he wants everybody to know that the Eagles' receivers are better than their reputation.

"We're not chumps out here," Smith said. "We're not cupcakes. We're NFL players... every team doesn't have a big-time receiver; who can name a receiver for the Patriots?"

Smith went from 34 catches in 2004 to 61 last season, as he started every game for the first time in his 3-year career. Now he feels like he must take another step.

"I read magazines; the biggest thing is, can he take that step into the elite group?" Smith said. "OK, I'm getting people's attention, but now they want to see what's next, as a second-year starter... I'm excited."

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Running back Correll Buckhalter did not participate in live hitting drills, as he attempts to recover from three major knee surgeries in 4 years... Jamaal Jackson took the first-team reps at center... New starting defensive end Darren Howard had a strong first day, using his hands effectively...

Safety and kick returner J.R. Reed, still using a brace to help lift his left foot because of peroneal nerve damage, said he felt fine after his first day of contact since Super Bowl XXXIX. "I'm back," Reed said. "I hit somebody, they hit me, it held up great"... Possibly just to confuse reporters and fans, Jabar Gaffney is now No. 80 and Hank Baskett is No. 84, the opposite of how they appear on the Eagles' roster and in the media guide. Baskett said he had no input into the switch, but he joked that it might come in handy sometimes. "I slipped and [a fan] yelled, 'Hey, Jabar, don't slip!' I said, 'OK,' " Baskett said.
 

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Woods said:
Hold your ground, Bunkley! :)


:lmao:



as a player, i would hate to be a philadelphia eagle. i mean seriously, they reward few, and stick it to many.

i'd love to see this guy hold out. word is he's gonna be pretty good, so anything that slows that development is fine with me.
 

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Just so everyone understands, the deal for Bunkley has implications for our very own Mr. Carpenter. Stay tuned to this because these problems may make our guy late to camp as well.
 

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They should send Hugh Douglas in to rough Bunkley up.

But then again, Douglass would probably just get his hairyass handed to him again.
 

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Technically, holdout is not the correct term.

A holdout has a contract but refuses to show. Bunkley has no contract. He is simply unsigned. Guys can be fined for holding out but not for refusing to sign a contract.
 

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Contract talks between the Eagles and No. 14 pick Brodrick Bunkley are reportedly headed for "a long, cold war."

It's not money; the length of the deal is the problem. Per the new CBA, picks 1-16 can be signed to six-year contracts. The Eagles are pursuing the max length while Bunkley's agent is reportedly dead-set on a five-year pact. Bunkley has missed seven practices thus far.

Jul. 26 - 9:48 am et
Source: Philadelphia Inquirer & Daily News
 

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Eagles head coach Andy Reid is upset with Brodrick Bunkley's agent.
"I want to really express my disappointment in (agent) Gary Wichard," Ried said Tuesday. "That's especially true because the pick right above him in the draft is in camp." He's got a point. Jul. 26 - 9:37 am et
Source: Philadelphia Inquirer & Daily News
 

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I hope they never sign that beast.

Bunkley in green is gonna look like the Incredible Hulk on Sundays and is gonna give offenses fits for years to come, IMO.

The new Glover.
 

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Gryphon said:
Eagles head coach Andy Reid is upset with Brodrick Bunkley's agent.
"I want to really express my disappointment in (agent) Gary Wichard," Ried said Tuesday.
That doesn't seem like a smart thing to say... No need to drag personalities into it at this point.

Unless things really are getting that ugly already. :D
 

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the Iggs crack me up... every young guy that shows promise the Iggs fall all over themselves to give them 7 yr deals... now they are worried about a 6 year deal on their #1 pick who wants 5, who they will probally give a 7 year extention to after year 2 anyway!


this organization is a joke! I would hold out too... Just like everyone else Bunk has caught up to the Iggs games.
 

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Stick it to the Eagles, Bunkley :laugh1: . Like someone mentioned earlier, just dont sign and re-enter the 07 Draft. We'll draft you :cool: :p:
 

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lspain1 said:
Just so everyone understands, the deal for Bunkley has implications for our very own Mr. Carpenter. Stay tuned to this because these problems may make our guy late to camp as well.

I don't see how it could, when the issue between Bunkley and the Iggles is that he wants a 5 year deal, the Iggles want to give him a six year deal... as the 18th pick in the draft, Bobby Carpenter is not eligible for a six year deal...
 

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silverbear said:
I don't see how it could, when the issue between Bunkley and the Iggles is that he wants a 5 year deal, the Iggles want to give him a six year deal... as the 18th pick in the draft, Bobby Carpenter is not eligible for a six year deal...

My point here, incompletely stated, was that the contract negotiations for draft picks in the 1st round resembles a line of dominoes. A few brave souls will sign and the rest follow suit. In this year's case, the dominoes are not falling quickly and a number of negotiations (including ours) seem to be stalled. I want Carpenter in camp and every stalled negotiation ahead of him in the draft order impacts the contract 'pecking order' that emerges. It will all sort out eventually but with our brutal early schedule, Carpenter is a key addition and he needs to be ready on opening day.
 

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Carpenter is not the type to rant and rave over something relatively minor. Bunkley is being stupid and the Iggs are as well.
 
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