Can Anyone Name Another Team Which Had An "Apprentice" In Training For HC?...

[CaptainAmerica]

...I'm trying to recall if I have ever heard or seen a situation like Jerry may be about to create in Dallas with Jason Garrett starring in "The Apprentice-Dallas Cowboys 2007".

I realize teams promote assistants all the time to be their HC, but I'm talking about the situation Jerry may create with Jason Garrett playing the role of "The Apprentice".

Besides Dick Vermeil and Mike Martz in St. Louis, (which really wasn't known until after the Rams won the Super Bowl), I can't think of anything similar to this situation.

If he does this, I believe it will be one of the strangest things Jerry has done in the 18 years he's owned the team.

 

[Hostile]

...I'm trying to recall if I have ever heard or seen a situation like Jerry may be about to create in Dallas with Jason Garrett starring in "The Apprentice-Dallas Cowboys 2007".

I realize teams promote assistants all the time to be their HC, but I'm talking about the situation Jerry may create with Jason Garrett playing the role of "The Apprentice".

Besides Dick Vermeil and Mike Martz in St. Louis, (which really wasn't known until after the Rams won the Super Bowl), I can't think of anything similar to this situation.

If he does this, I believe it will be one of the strangest things Jerry has done in the 18 years he's owned the team.

You answered your own question.

 

[superpunk]

Expect classical music in the locker room.

Also, Norv will do us all a favor and grow a beard.

 

[Cbz40]

There may have been or there is a few out there......we simply don't know it because it wasn't or isn't being publicized.

There have been COs promoted to the HC position.

 

[cobra]

The Dallas Mavericks did it. And that worked fine.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

You answered your own question.

No I didn't because the situations are different. I mentioned it only because it happened to be the only thing remotely similar that I can recall.

Vermeil was a proven HC who had built that Rams team from the ground up and transformed it from a loser to a winner and he was retiring. That's very different than Jerry hiring Norv to tutor Garrett.

 

[MONT17]

Siefort... Tom Flores... Bart Starr... Not sure I was very young!!!

 

[BigDFan5]

I find it amusing that for the last couple years I have heard alot of people say Parcells should be training someone to be our future headcoach that was the way to go, Now that the media has put out the theory that Garrett is HC in training some of these people are freaking out saying its bad

 

[CaptainAmerica]

The Dallas Mavericks did it. And that worked fine.

I don't follow B-ball. I have heard about Avery's development but don't really know the story. Was it known he would be the future HC and did he spend a season or two learning from Del Harris?

 

[Hostile]

I find it amusing that for the last couple years I have heard alot of people say Parcells should be training someone to be our future headcoach that was the way to go, Now that the media has put out the theory that Garrett is HC in training some of these people are freaking out saying its bad

Thank you!

 

[superpunk]

I find it amusing that for the last couple years I have heard alot of people say Parcells should be training someone to be our future headcoach that was the way to go, Now that the media has put out the theory that Garrett is HC in training some of these people are freaking out saying its bad

I don't think it's bad - I just don't like the candidates he's going to be "training" under.

Also, with his new moniker of "in training", if you were Ron Rivera, would you even consider Dallas?

Just make Jason the HC and be done with it.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I find it amusing that for the last couple years I have heard alot of people say Parcells should be training someone to be our future headcoach that was the way to go, Now that the media has put out the theory that Garrett is HC in training some of these people are freaking out saying its bad

Umm, I'm not "freaking out".

I just find it an unusual situation and I simply asked a question for discussion on a "discussion" forum.

Obviously from reading your response you don't have any input on the question.

 

[blindzebra]

Walsh to Seifert.

Happens all the time in college basketball, the Suttons, Bobby Knight is gearing up to pass the torch to his son.

 

[BigDFan5]

Umm, I'm not "freaking out".

I just find it an unusual situation and I simply asked a question for discussion on a "discussion" forum.

Obviously from reading your response you don't have any input on the question.

Luckily for you I didn't single you out then.

I placed my responce in this thread without quoting anyone

It was placed here because it doesnt deserve its own thread and this one was about the same subject

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Thank you!

When did anyone complain that Parcells wasn't "training" a HC for the future?

Sorry, but I missed those discussions.

IMO, Parcells tenure in Dallas has absolutely nothing to do with Jerry's hire and future plans for Jason Garrett.

I'm not trying to be argumentative, I simply don't understand the connection or the point of the reply.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Walsh to Seifert.

Happens all the time in college basketball, the Suttons, Bobby Knight is gearing up to pass the torch to his son.

Those situations aren't remotely similar. Those coaches were proven guys who had been there and were nearing retirement. That isn't anything like a young coach being hired with the idea he will be the HC in a couple years and bringing in another coach from outside the organization to train the young coach. (If that's what Jerry ends up doing with Norv.)


I'm not trying to start an argument, I really want to know if it's ever been done before in the NFL. I just find it odd and can't think of anything similar.

 

[Danny White]

Here in Washington DC, they've been talking about Gregg Williams as being a "head-coach-in-waiting" when Gibbs finally hangs it up for two or three years now.

Funny things can happen in even a year's time, though. Suddenly Williams' Defense has a down year, and people want to run him out of town.

That's why I wouldn't hand the 2008 or 2009 HC job to Garrett just yet. We have no idea how he'll pan out as a coach.

That's why I think we should still consider some younger guys like Rivera and Ryan. Nothing wrong with having two up-and-comers on one staff. Doubles your chances of having one of them work out.

 

[superpunk]

Start a thread, ask for input, and then tell everyone how wrong and off-base they are because their examples don't fit your mold EXACTLY. Great plan.

Similar situations have existed before. You're probably not going to find an exact replica of the current Cowboys situation.

 

[VA Cowboy]

Start a thread, ask for input, and then tell everyone how wrong and off-base they are because their examples don't fit your mold EXACTLY. Great plan.

Similar situations have existed before. You're probably not going to find an exact replica of the current Cowboys situation.

Yeah, I doubt anyone will find an example of an NFL team hiring a "HC in training" before they have a HC in place. That's because it doesn't happen like that.

I'm sure teams have younger assistants on staff that they would like to one day become a HC, but I don't think any have a plan to hire a trainee and then hire someone for 2-3 years to keep the seat warm for him. That's ludicrous.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Those situations aren't remotely similar. Those coaches were proven guys who had been there and were nearing retirement. That isn't anything like a young coach being hired with the idea he will be the HC in a couple years and bringing in another coach from outside the organization to train the young coach. (If that's what Jerry ends up doing with Norv.)


I'm not trying to start an argument, I really want to know if it's ever been done before in the NFL. I just find it odd and can't think of anything similar.

I don't think it's been done before. However, I read all about the time about hot young coaching prospects. Mangini was a coaching prospect that Belichek tried to keep on staff because he thought he wasn't ready. I don't know how meaningful that is, but there's always somebody's name popping up as a name to be on the lookout. Years ago, the Ryan boys were on the coaching radar. Now they're legit candidates who just haven't gotten their shot.

Most of the other prospects are getting their experience under the radar and by the time most fans hear about him, he's being named a HC. The difference is that while everyone seems to agree that Garrett's not ready to be a HC, he's someone who would be a great candidate in the future.

And if it weren't for the 'boys signing him up now, he would still be under the fan radar.