Can Cowboys Really Afford to Bring Adams Back in 08

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I know this issue has been talked to depth but it might be time to take another look at it again now.

Adams is 32, in the last year of his contract & recovery from recent knee surgery. Cowboys giving him time to ensure he fully ready to go so in TC so in the meantime 06 7th rounder OT McQuistan is working at LT. Soprano is high on McQuistan as was Parcells last year. Assuming Adams starts soon & has a good season, should the Cowboys still sign Adams to a 3-5 year big salary contract? While many on this board probably think answer should be yes, many of us are justifiably concerned that signing a player of his age & sometimes inconcsistent play might not be the best decision for the Cowboys. So I'll be keeping a close eye on McQuistan's play and hope he gets a lot of reps in TC/preseason games & even in regular season games when we have a big lead. Of course keeping Adams around for one more year might also be an option if Cowboys like what they see in either McQuistan or Free so either have another year to develop.

Cowboys seem to be planning Adams' exit

By NEWY SCRUGGS
Special to the Star-Telegram


I expect Cowboys tackle Flozell Adams to have his best season ever. He's a free agent after the season.
He's a left tackle. I'd argue that is one of the three most important positions in the [COLOR=blue! important][FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][COLOR=blue! important][FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]NFL[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR].
If you want to get paid big bucks, become a [COLOR=blue! important][FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][COLOR=blue! important][FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Pro [/FONT][COLOR=blue! important][FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Bowl[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR] performer as a quarterback, speed rusher or left tackle.
The Cowboys gave free-agent Leonard Davis a $16 million signing bonus to play guard, and he's never made the Pro Bowl. What do you think Adams will demand if he makes a fourth trip to Hawaii in 2008?
The Cowboys would like to extend the contract of corner Terence Newman.
I say that makes Flozell Adams the odd man out on the money train.
This will be his 10th year in the league and he's had his fair share of injuries. In today's salary-cap world, a club sometimes has to let good players go.
Second-year backup tackle Pat McQuistan might be the next man up at left tackle.
Adams is not 100 percent recovered from an off-season surgery, so McQuistan has been running with the first team at left tackle.
"This off-season he really came on and was pleasantly surprising in the minicamps," offensive line coach Tony Sparano said of McQuistan. "So putting him in there right now is really more curiosity than anything else. I want to see if this guy is the next guy in the game. As it looks right now, I feel pretty good about him."
I caught up with McQuistan after the team's second practice and he tried to downplay his prospects of being the man who protects Tony Romo's blindside.
"I look at it rep by rep," he said. "Just taking snaps."
McQuistan was inactive for 15 games during his rookie season. The club expects the seventh-round draft pick to make a great improvement.
"Pat was a pleasant surprise last year," Sparano said. "He really came on well toward the end of the year. Every day in practice this guy has to block Demarcus Ware. Every...single... day. That was his job."
The Cowboys cannot pay every player on their roster the going rates. Not with Romo's deal expiring at the end of the season. Romo is looking for big dollars. Fellow quarterback Marc Bulger of the [COLOR=blue! important][FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][COLOR=blue! important][FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Rams[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR] agreed to a six-year $65-million deal Friday that was negotiated by Romo's agent, Tom Condon.
Adams is 32. He has some good years left. He will soon command a high price for a player on the wrong side of 30.
The Cowboys seem to be plotting his exit. They drafted two tackles in April. Armed with two selections in the next year's draft, they have options.
Right now, Pat McQuistan is looking like their first option.
Newy Scruggs is the [COLOR=blue! important][FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][COLOR=blue! important][FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]sports[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR] director at NBC 5.
 

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Flo never really lived up to what he should have been. It is time to say goodbye to Flo and let one of the kids start. That will be a lot of cap money saved that can be spent on other needs. Thanks for all you did FLo, but it is the end of the line for you in Dallas....
 

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Yes. He won't be very expensive. When is the last time a huge contract was given to a slightly above average 33 year old tackle with a history of knee problems?

The market simply will not pay much for this guy, even if he makes the Pro Bowl again.
 

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theogt;1566401 said:
Yes. He won't be very expensive. When is the last time a huge contract was given to a slightly above average 33 year old tackle with a history of knee problems?

The market simply will not pay much for this guy, even if he makes the Pro Bowl again.

I cannot believe you are speaking like this.

Do people forget that losing him was the only reason our 2005 season was ruined? :rolleyes:
 

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sago1;1566326 said:
I know this issue has been talked to depth but it might be time to take another look at it again now.

Adams is 32, in the last year of his contract & recovery from recent knee surgery. Cowboys giving him time to ensure he fully ready to go so in TC so in the meantime 06 7th rounder OT McQuistan is working at LT. Soprano is high on McQuistan as was Parcells last year. Assuming Adams starts soon & has a good season, should the Cowboys still sign Adams to a 3-5 year big salary contract? While many on this board probably think answer should be yes, many of us are justifiably concerned that signing a player of his age & sometimes inconcsistent play might not be the best decision for the Cowboys. So I'll be keeping a close eye on McQuistan's play and hope he gets a lot of reps in TC/preseason games & even in regular season games when we have a big lead. Of course keeping Adams around for one more year might also be an option if Cowboys like what they see in either McQuistan or Free so either have another year to develop.

Cowboys seem to be planning Adams' exit

By NEWY SCRUGGS
Special to the Star-Telegram


I expect Cowboys tackle Flozell Adams to have his best season ever. He's a free agent after the season.
He's a left tackle. I'd argue that is one of the three most important positions in the [COLOR=blue! important][FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][COLOR=blue! important][FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]NFL[/FONT][/FONT][/color][/color].
If you want to get paid big bucks, become a [COLOR=blue! important][FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][COLOR=blue! important][FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Pro [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][COLOR=blue! important][FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Bowl[/FONT][/color][/FONT][/color][/color] performer as a quarterback, speed rusher or left tackle.
The Cowboys gave free-agent Leonard Davis a $16 million signing bonus to play guard, and he's never made the Pro Bowl. What do you think Adams will demand if he makes a fourth trip to Hawaii in 2008?
The Cowboys would like to extend the contract of corner Terence Newman.
I say that makes Flozell Adams the odd man out on the money train.
This will be his 10th year in the league and he's had his fair share of injuries. In today's salary-cap world, a club sometimes has to let good players go.
Second-year backup tackle Pat McQuistan might be the next man up at left tackle.
Adams is not 100 percent recovered from an off-season surgery, so McQuistan has been running with the first team at left tackle.
"This off-season he really came on and was pleasantly surprising in the minicamps," offensive line coach Tony Sparano said of McQuistan. "So putting him in there right now is really more curiosity than anything else. I want to see if this guy is the next guy in the game. As it looks right now, I feel pretty good about him."
I caught up with McQuistan after the team's second practice and he tried to downplay his prospects of being the man who protects Tony Romo's blindside.
"I look at it rep by rep," he said. "Just taking snaps."
McQuistan was inactive for 15 games during his rookie season. The club expects the seventh-round draft pick to make a great improvement.
"Pat was a pleasant surprise last year," Sparano said. "He really came on well toward the end of the year. Every day in practice this guy has to block Demarcus Ware. Every...single... day. That was his job."
The Cowboys cannot pay every player on their roster the going rates. Not with Romo's deal expiring at the end of the season. Romo is looking for big dollars. Fellow quarterback Marc Bulger of the [COLOR=blue! important][FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][COLOR=blue! important][FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Rams[/FONT][/FONT][/color][/color] agreed to a six-year $65-million deal Friday that was negotiated by Romo's agent, Tom Condon.
Adams is 32. He has some good years left. He will soon command a high price for a player on the wrong side of 30.
The Cowboys seem to be plotting his exit. They drafted two tackles in April. Armed with two selections in the next year's draft, they have options.
Right now, Pat McQuistan is looking like their first option.
Newy Scruggs is the [COLOR=blue! important][FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][COLOR=blue! important][FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]sports[/FONT][/FONT][/color][/color] director at NBC 5.

A lot of things will be dependent in whether or not we re-sign Flozell. I know the team is high on McQuistan but he hasn't seen one start in the regular season. I wouldn't be surprised if McQ started a preseason game kinda like what we did with Romo last year in the preseason just to see how he does against 1st team defenses. Obviously Flozell's play will be a big factor as well. He's always been known as the above-average LT that's one step away from being dominant. With him at 32 and coming off a major knee injury, I don't see Flozell all of a sudden becoming Walter Jones material. I really think his best days are behind him and that's why we drafted Free, to compete with McQuistan next year for the starting LT spot. Maybe Flozell would take a 3-4 year deal that would be cap-friendly and still allow us to re-sign Newman to a long term contract but that's unlikely as this will be Flozell's last big payday in the NFL. Unless Flozell has a career year, I see 07' as Flo's last year in Big D IMO.
 

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Alexander;1566405 said:
I cannot believe you are speaking like this.

Do people forget that losing him was the only reason our 2005 season was ruined? :rolleyes:
I honestly can't tell which part of this is sarcasm or whether all of it is. But, I'd say that the '05 problem was with the replacements we had for him, not because of him. In other words, it wasn't about going from a great LT to an average LT, but rather going from a slightly above-average LT to one of the worst LTs to ever play the game. I don't think we have that problem. Doug Free, McQuistan, or Davis (if need be) should certainly be better than Torrin Tucker.
 

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I have no idea what our cap numbers look like for next year. Obviously a new Romo contract sometime this year and potentially an extended Newman contract next year will affect the numbers. But I think we're in decent enough shape that if we had to come up with a decent sized contract for Adams we could-- not saying we will but we could.
 

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JakeCamp12;1566363 said:
Flo never really lived up to what he should have been. ....

huh? the guy was a 2nd rd pick, he was a freaking STEAL

the guys been one of the better LT's in the league for several years, and he's been to several probowls

David
 

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I think Jerry Jones has learned his lesson about resigning veterans after they are 33, example, Jerry Jones had to pay for Charles Haley, Deion Sanders, Vanderjact kicker, Larry Allen, Troy Aikman and darren Woodson, now all these players were great players. But at some point, you just cant resign players, kind alike with the 49ers when they let Joe Montana go, at one point you cant resign that player due to age and injury prone due to health and age.

thats why in my opinion the cowboys drafted James Marten and Doug Free. if you remember Jerry Jones said that they were looking at a player that would be equal or better than a offensive tackle that they had on the roster now, which i think they were referring to Columbo. So, if they were preparing to lose Romo after his 2 years, then they are grooming Free, Marten and McQuistan to take over the offensive tackle spots.

Like Jerry Jones said, to pay high priced offensive linemen now would be too pricey and cost prohibitive, when you have to resign guys like Demarcus Ware, etc in 3-4 years.

Now, at same time, if the cowboys dont sign any top free agents next year, then they should get a 3rd round draft compensation pick for Flozell. You can get a decent offensive linemen there if the offensive tackle and guards positions are loaded that year in the draft, like we did with Free and Marten.

so, i agree with some guys, most likely Flozell is gone next year, and he knows it.
 

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cowboyjoe;1566430 said:
I think Jerry Jones has learned his lesson about resigning veterans after they are 33, example, Jerry Jones had to pay for Charles Haley, Deion Sanders, Vanderjact kicker, Larry Allen, Troy Aikman and darren Woodson, now all these players were great players. But at some point, you just cant resign players, kind alike with the 49ers when they let Joe Montana go, at one point you cant resign that player due to age and injury prone due to health and age.

thats why in my opinion the cowboys drafted James Marten and Doug Free. if you remember Jerry Jones said that they were looking at a player that would be equal or better than a offensive tackle that they had on the roster now, which i think they were referring to Columbo. So, if they were preparing to lose Romo after his 2 years, then they are grooming Free, Marten and McQuistan to take over the offensive tackle spots.

Like Jerry Jones said, to pay high priced offensive linemen now would be too pricey and cost prohibitive, when you have to resign guys like Demarcus Ware, etc in 3-4 years.

Now, at same time, if the cowboys dont sign any top free agents next year, then they should get a 3rd round draft compensation pick for Flozell. You can get a decent offensive linemen there if the offensive tackle and guards positions are loaded that year in the draft, like we did with Free and Marten.

so, i agree with some guys, most likely Flozell is gone next year, and he knows it.

You mean Columbo, right?
 

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MichaelWinicki;1566423 said:
I have no idea what our cap numbers look like for next year. Obviously a new Romo contract sometime this year and potentially an extended Newman contract next year will affect the numbers. But I think we're in decent enough shape that if we had to come up with a decent sized contract for Adams we could-- not saying we will but we could.

If we resign Romo and Newman to extensions, leave a little bit in case the injury bug bites, we could still add LTBE incentives to some contracts of some others that would push extra cap from this year to next year.

Or simply put, I agree with you. We could if we wanted to. :D
 

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yes columbo, jerry jones said, they had a young player that they were looking at in the draft, and he was just as good as a player that they had now, that his contract would be way to high after 2 years.

now if they are preparing to get a player to replace columbo, then it would make sense that they would prepare to replace flozell adams since he is older than columbo, wouldnt it?

and they did draft 2 big offensive linemen in this years draft, and they have mcquistan too for og or ot.
 

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I think that Davis will move to LT which is not a good idea. Flo will want alot of money. 4 time pro bowler. We just gave Davis a guard all that money and he never made it to Hawaii. Flo is gone. Romo and Newman get his money.
 

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theogt;1566419 said:
I honestly can't tell which part of this is sarcasm or whether all of it is. But, I'd say that the '05 problem was with the replacements we had for him, not because of him. In other words, it wasn't about going from a great LT to an average LT, but rather going from a slightly above-average LT to one of the worst LTs to ever play the game. I don't think we have that problem. Doug Free, McQuistan, or Davis (if need be) should certainly be better than Torrin Tucker.

It is all sarcasm.

Flozell is a pretty good offensive tackle, but his value was overinflated by that horrible year as well as a few gift Pro Bowls.
 

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Murph80;1566466 said:
I think that Davis will move to LT which is not a good idea.

I disagree. It is an utterly dreadful idea.:cool:

Flo will want alot of money. 4 time pro bowler. We just gave Davis a guard all that money and he never made it to Hawaii. Flo is gone. Romo and Newman get his money.

Pay the players who have a future. Romo and Newman have some very good football ahead of them.

Adams does not.
 

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sago1;1566326 said:
Can Cowboys Really Afford to Bring Adams Back in 08
Yes we can.

But a better question might be.....do we really want to regardless of the money situation? That answer will likely be NO.
 

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big dog cowboy;1566483 said:
Yes we can.

But a better question might be.....do we really want to regardless of the money situation? That answer will likely be NO.

I don't know about anyone else, I like having 10-12 million in savings. If we start rewarding aging players with nice contracts to reward them out of loyalty, we will be edging closer to breaking even.

Prioritize and address the best payoff on the dollar. That means youth.
 

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Alexander;1566508 said:
I don't know about anyone else, I like having 10-12 million in savings. If we start rewarding aging players with nice contracts to reward them out of loyalty, we will be edging closer to breaking even.

Prioritize and address the best payoff on the dollar. That means youth.
I think he'll get a 3 year extension somewhere slightly above the range that Colombo received. That's really not much, and it's actually protecting an investment in the future considering he'll play a year or two extra, giving Doug Free some time to develop.
 
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