Can the Cowboys afford any 40M QB?

Diehardblues

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If the had a rookie QB, what would they do with the extra money? Spend it like they did on Crawford and Smith? They'd probably re-sign Awuzie, Lewis and Woods.
We have the money to pay Dak. They’re just pandering to public perception.

I’d wager anyone 30 days on this forum we will sign Dak and pay him close to 40 million.
 

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im not interested in down grading the most important position on the team so we have more money to spend at the dollar store.
if its Dak or trading for Russell Wilson...good QBs are expensive.
pay'm.
 

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This isn't about Prescott, it is about the team. It's not about establishing his worth. Or any QB's worth.

Do you think the Cowboys would be a championship caliber team with Mahomes or Watson? The two 40M QB's. Think Rodgers or Wilson at 35m and 33M would do it?

TB did what they did with a 25M QB considered the GOAT. KC got there with their QB still on his rookie deal. BAL and BUF got their with QB's on their rookie deals.

When NE was winning all those trophies, what were they paying their QB and why was that? Kraft even said Brady really has no choice meaning if he wanted to stay in NE and keep gathering jewelry, he had to be cooperative on the salary. Because Kraft as the owner understood Belichick the HC was all about the team.

The most successful HC in NFL history would not pay any QB 40M. He had the best and was willing to trade him if he didn't fit in the cap formula. He actually planned on doing that. There's a lesson to be learned there.

It doesn't matter what QB the Cowboys have, they cannot pay him that much of the cap because they are challenged in deciding what to pay other players. They are average team builders at best.

Because of how they distribute the cap, they have to be dead on in the draft, particularly on the D side. Are they? Are they even good in FA with the D? Paying any QB 40M only exacerbates what is already the problem along with being challenged with player evaluations.

The Dallas Cowboys are the prime example of what happens with a team paying too much to too many, it is feast and famine on the same team. And they will all stay hungry.

In the short run, the best thing they can do is get a rookie QB, keep Dalton and focus on the rest of the team. If they don't, the long run doesn't matter.
I would not pay any QB circa $40 million next season and the equivalent in future seasons. The high chances are there will always be a team with a good rookie QB with a quality supporting cast that will just have too much for a team with a QB being paid the aforementioned annual salary.

Some people on here do not seem to comprehend the concept of a salary cap.
 

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We have the money to pay Dak. They’re just pandering to public perception.

I’d wager anyone 30 days on this forum we will sign Dak and pay him close to 40 million.

What is close? If they pay him 35 you can't come here spouting off that you won the bet. Make it 40 or don't set up a paper tiger.
 

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That's the excuse Brady gave but Kraft nailed it when he said "Tom really had no choice is he wanted to remain a Patriot". Belichick had already set it up to trade Brady if he didn't play ball and had Garoppolo in the wings for that specific purpose. Every player is replaceable in Belichick's mind.

There is no way he's paying top dollar for any QB.





The last TWO team friendly contracts Brady signed, because his wife makes more, Garoppolo wasn't even still with the patriots. He was already with the 49ers. Garoppolo went to the 49ers in 2017 Brady signed a deal after the 2017 season and then another one after the 2018 season both for much less than the market value again because his wife makes so much money. It's funny that if Kraft says something you think it's gospel but if Jones says something you think it's BS. Kraft is the same guy that when the patriots got caught filming a jets practice Kraft said that's a mistake until goodel said he had the actual film, but Kraft always tells the truth though at least you think so.
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It's not a Prescott thread, it's a 40M QB thread about a team challenged with building a team. This is not about him, be the same if it were Mahomes, Watson or Rodgers. It's about the team.




You may kid yourself, but when you're talking about not paying 40 mil the ONLY player that refers to is Prescott. So yes you started another Prescott thread.
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You may kid yourself, but when you're talking about not paying 40 mil the ONLY player that refers to is Prescott. So yes you started another Prescott thread.
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I have to agree. But Coach did broad scope this beyond that as he has references other teams as well.
 

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And again, you had to come chime in and put your 2 cents in, why? A normal person that does not like something moves on down the road, so what does that say about you?





So according to you no other user EVER makes any comments about a how oir why a thread was started. You need to wake up, it's done a lot. Maybe it's just that you want to pick arguments with me after all you didn't start this thread so why should it bother you if I poke fun at it? Just worry about yourself because you have enough there to worry about.
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The last TWO team friendly contracts Brady signed, because his wife makes more, Garoppolo wasn't even still with the patriots. He was already with the 49ers. Garoppolo went to the 49ers in 2017 Brady signed a deal after the 2017 season and then another one after the 2018 season both for much less than the market value again because his wife makes so much money. It's funny that if Kraft says something you think it's gospel but if Jones says something you think it's BS. Kraft is the same guy that when the patriots got caught filming a jets practice Kraft said that's a mistake until goodel said he had the actual film, but Kraft always tells the truth though at least you think so.
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Why would Kraft lie? He wasn't putting Brady down, he was giving him an excuse. The first contract he had to take a hit on, Garoppolo was with the team and Belichick trading him was part of his deal with Brady for taking the deal. The subsequent contracts were kept down because of the ever present threat for Belichick to deal him.

I don't think what Brady's wife made even entered into it. Brady was all about his legacy and he knew he stood a much better chance with Belichick than without him.
 

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The last TWO team friendly contracts Brady signed, because his wife makes more, Garoppolo wasn't even still with the patriots. He was already with the 49ers. Garoppolo went to the 49ers in 2017 Brady signed a deal after the 2017 season and then another one after the 2018 season both for much less than the market value again because his wife makes so much money. It's funny that if Kraft says something you think it's gospel but if Jones says something you think it's BS. Kraft is the same guy that when the patriots got caught filming a jets practice Kraft said that's a mistake until goodel said he had the actual film, but Kraft always tells the truth though at least you think so.
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So, since Dak does not have a rich wife, he should get paid big time? That is your logic? Wow...
 

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This isn't about Prescott, it is about the team. It's not about establishing his worth. Or any QB's worth.

Do you think the Cowboys would be a championship caliber team with Mahomes or Watson? The two 40M QB's. Think Rodgers or Wilson at 35m and 33M would do it?

TB did what they did with a 25M QB considered the GOAT. KC got there with their QB still on his rookie deal. BAL and BUF got their with QB's on their rookie deals.

When NE was winning all those trophies, what were they paying their QB and why was that? Kraft even said Brady really has no choice meaning if he wanted to stay in NE and keep gathering jewelry, he had to be cooperative on the salary. Because Kraft as the owner understood Belichick the HC was all about the team.

The most successful HC in NFL history would not pay any QB 40M. He had the best and was willing to trade him if he didn't fit in the cap formula. He actually planned on doing that. There's a lesson to be learned there.

It doesn't matter what QB the Cowboys have, they cannot pay him that much of the cap because they are challenged in deciding what to pay other players. They are average team builders at best.

Because of how they distribute the cap, they have to be dead on in the draft, particularly on the D side. Are they? Are they even good in FA with the D? Paying any QB 40M only exacerbates what is already the problem along with being challenged with player evaluations.

The Dallas Cowboys are the prime example of what happens with a team paying too much to too many, it is feast and famine on the same team. And they will all stay hungry.

In the short run, the best thing they can do is get a rookie QB, keep Dalton and focus on the rest of the team. If they don't, the long run doesn't matter.

This thread could have been written at any point during the last couple of years while the contract mistake of Smith, Elliott, DLaw and Cooper were being given. Once the ink dried on the last one signed, Cooper, I believe, all that is posted here became reality, if not before Cooper.

The underperformance by the 2019 team was noteworthy because I thought the FAs of that year were particularly productive for the reasonable contracts they were given.

In fact, Quinn, Bennett and Cobb are just another example of this team's inability to seize the moment while still on Dak's rookie contract.

Last year's FA class was putrid. Now that the cap has reduced and contracts been given and still awaiting the Dak contract it will be next to impossible to sign any kind of defensive free agent difference maker based on the leftover cap money available.

Nice post Coach.
 

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He just used those references as reason to not sign Prescott. It's still a Prescott thread.
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Then get the hell out of it if you don't want to hang out in Prescott threads. Is your purpose to point out how many threads there are about a football team's QB not under contract?

It is only concerning him because he is the QB wanting 40M. If this was another QB, the thread would be the same, about this team making a mistake, again, with allocating too much money to the O side of the ball with the worst D in the league.
 

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Why would Kraft lie? He wasn't putting Brady down, he was giving him an excuse. The first contract he had to take a hit on, Garoppolo was with the team and Belichick trading him was part of his deal with Brady for taking the deal. The subsequent contracts were kept down because of the ever present threat for Belichick to deal him.

I don't think what Brady's wife made even entered into it. Brady was all about his legacy and he knew he stood a much better chance with Belichick than without him.



You're dreaming if you think at any time Brady thought that he would get replaced by Garoppolo or any other QB. Brady was already called the GOAT and Kraft would look EXTREMELY silly if he moved on from the goat. Kraft is known for letting a player go a year early rather than a year late but none of those players were considered the goat at their position either. I'm not going to keep going around and around with you on this. You believe what you want and I'll do the same. Don't bother to reply I'll just ignore it.
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