Can we afford to keep our talent?

[TheCount]

Yep... like the Colts and Pats... you have to decide who your CORE talent is... your NUCLEUS and keep adding good young'uns to that group

Or in the case of the Pats, adding good oldies.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

Why cut him, when he can play out his contract?

Because the scenario is the possibility that the Cowboys may be too tight against the CAP to sign Newman. The 2.6 Million in CAP savings could go a long way in getting that done.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Or in the case of the Pats, adding good oldies.

Actually.... true.

The Pats add "quality" regardless of age.

You are right!

 

[DasTex]

Yep... like the Colts and Pats... you have to decide who your CORE talent is... your NUCLEUS and keep adding good young'uns to that group

That brings up the point really that I was trying to make. Guess maybe I should have just asked it in the original post!!

Who is that NUCLEUS?

Romo
Ware
TO (maybe too old?)
Barber

Whom else?

 

[dargonking999]

Because the scenario is the possibility that the Cowboys may be too tight against the CAP to sign Newman. The 2.6 Million in CAP savings could go a long way in getting that done.

Maybe but so could re-negotiating, and/or releasing RW.

I just think you don't release a corner to re-sign a corner.

 

[dargonking999]

That brings up the point really that I was trying to make. Guess maybe I should have just asked it in the original post!!

Who is that NUCLEUS?

Romo
Ware
TO (maybe too old?)
Barber

Whom else?

you're NUCLEUS!

is your core positions

QB, RB, CB, LB/DE, FS/SS, LT, C

So our nuc would be, Romo, Barber/Draft pick, Newman, Ware, Hamlin/Roy, Flo, and Gurode.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

That brings up the point really that I was trying to make. Guess maybe I should have just asked it in the original post!!

Who is that NUCLEUS?

Romo
Ware
TO (maybe too old?)
Barber

Whom else?

Yeah I started to add the nucleus and then stopped LOL

Offense
The line is pretty much set for a while.
Colombo prob gone though

Romo, Barber, Rookie RB, FA WR, Witten

Defense

Ware, Spencer, TNew, Pacman(fingers crossed)
All safeties are gone soon

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

Maybe but so could re-negotiating, and/or releasing RW.

I just think you don't release a corner to re-sign a corner.

I would release an above average corner to resign a premier one, which is the case here. If they can sign every one with no sacrifices, then I am all for it, but Newman is top five in the league and Henry is not, so it is not a one-to-one relationship.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Looking at our roster, we have tons of talent and lots of money tied up in players. Is it possible to afford this many players being paid premium dollar at their positions? Saying if we extend Ware, Newman, Hamlin, and Barber

Offense

Romo - top 10 money
Barber- top 10 money
TO - top 5 money
Flo - top 10 money
BIG - top 10 money
Witten - top 10 money

Defense

Ware - top 5 money
Newman - top 5 money
Roy - top 10 money
Hamlin - top 5 money

Thats alot of money tied up into 10 players. That also doesn't include a possible new contracts for possible additions like Roy Williams or a trade for McFadden (highly unlikely).

Uncapped years are almost here. All Jerry needs to do is dig deeper.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Then who off that list, beside everyone's favorite whooping dog (#31/38) is someone that is expendable? I'd say in two years Flo might be gone, but not sure of whom else.

I'd go with Barber and Hamlin. We can draft their replacements this year -- maybe Stewart and Tyrell Johnson.

If we got Roy Williams, I'd let T.O. go, too. That's assuming he wants huge money, which is a safe assumption.

BTW, I probably wouldn't have re-signed Flo this year. IMO that was the plan in drafting the tackles last year, but Jerry blinked at the last minure when he saw how good Romo was and worried about a young guy protecting him.

 

[Eskimo]

Looking at our roster, we have tons of talent and lots of money tied up in players. Is it possible to afford this many players being paid premium dollar at their positions? Saying if we extend Ware, Newman, Hamlin, and Barber

Offense

Romo - top 10 money
Barber- top 10 money
TO - top 5 money
Flo - top 10 money
BIG - top 10 money
Witten - top 10 money

Defense

Ware - top 5 money
Newman - top 5 money
Roy - top 10 money
Hamlin - top 5 money

Thats alot of money tied up into 10 players. That also doesn't include a possible new contracts for possible additions like Roy Williams or a trade for McFadden (highly unlikely).

You have teams like Detroit and Arizona saying they can't afford to keep two high priced WR's, yet we'll find a way to?

Unless we move to a no cap situation, we can't afford to keep all of these guys. Ware is the top priority for an extension. After that, we can afford to lose any of the others but if we lose TO we will have to steal someone else's #1 WR which will cost money.

Possible areas to save on would be in order of preference:

1. Hamlin: Safeties aren't worth $6-7M/yr
2. Roy W: big sunk costs here, maybe released next year if does not turn around
2. Barber: If we get a good RB in the draft, Barber could leave
3. T-New: Will probably only sign him for hometeam discount. Would not want to go more than 4 years given his age and coming off a year in which he was injured quite a bit.

 

[Eskimo]

Why cut him, when he can play out his contract?

It depends on his salary as he has only one last year of pro-rated bonus to go through next year. Given his tendency to be injured for significant parts of the second half of the season, I wouldn't mind cutting ties with him next year if his salary is over $3 million.

 

[mullet]

Unless we move to a no cap situation, we can't afford to keep all of these guys. Ware is the top priority for an extension. After that, we can afford to lose any of the others but if we lose TO we will have to steal someone else's #1 WR which will cost money.

Possible areas to save on would be in order of preference:

1. Hamlin: Safeties aren't worth $6-7M/yr
2. Roy W: big sunk costs here, maybe released next year if does not turn around
2. Barber: If we get a good RB in the draft, Barber could leave
3. T-New: Will probably only sign him for hometeam discount. Would not want to go more than 4 years given his age and coming off a year in which he was injured quite a bit.

I agree with the outline above.
None of these fellows are 100% secure.

 

[jjktkk]

This is why its imperative to draft well year in and year out. You can't keep all of your good players, but if you draft well, it will offset your star players defecting. IMO the the one guy you postively have to resign in the next couple of years is Ware.

 

[Primetime0201]

Roy needs to go and there is no way in hell Jerry is dumb enough to give a 3rd down back top ten money.

 

[Verdict]

I agree that it will be impossible for us to keep our current roster intact next year without crippling our cap for years to come. I have been beating this drum for a while now.

The big names that will require a huge salary cap hit are Newman and Ware. Ware will be the sacred cow of the two. They will find a way to keep Ware regardless of what it costs to resign him, but the cost will probably be exhorbitant.

Newman "needs" to be resigned, but he is going to cost an exhorbitant sum as well. I am not sure we can keep both. That is why the Pac Man signing, while risky, makes some sense.

The players that I can see us losing this year or next year could be as follows:

1. Roy Williams (safety) unless he plays well (to his old form) and extends his contract in a cap friendly manner.

2. Ken Hamlin. He is basically rented for one year.

3. Henry. He is getting long in the tooth and he is good, but not great. He can be replaced in the draft in the draft.

4. Spears. Solid, but unspectacular.

5. Marion Barber. He is a fan favorite. He might even be a top 10 back. I doubt that he will be worth what his cap hit is to resign him. Let's get this straight. He is WORTH the money, but NOT WORTH the salary cap hit.

6. Columbo. He will be worth more than we will be willing to pay.

Keep in mind that when you lose a free agent (Like Barber) there will probably be a compensatory pick given to partially compensate the team for his loss. A player like Barber would probably net a 3rd rounder as compensation, at least. Loss of compensatory picks for letting a free agent go is just one of the opportunity costs for resigning Barber.

 

[slick325]

Looking at our roster, we have tons of talent and lots of money tied up in players. Is it possible to afford this many players being paid premium dollar at their positions? Saying if we extend Ware, Newman, Hamlin, and Barber

Offense

Romo - top 10 money
Barber- top 10 money
TO - top 5 money
Flo - top 10 money
BIG - top 10 money
Witten - top 10 money

Defense
Ware - top 5 money
Newman - top 5 money
Roy - top 10 money
Hamlin - top 5 money

Thats alot of money tied up into 10 players. That also doesn't include a possible new contracts for possible additions like Roy Williams or a trade for McFadden (highly unlikely).

You have teams like Detroit and Arizona saying they can't afford to keep two high priced WR's, yet we'll find a way to?

That's the price you pay when you have a very good squad. I would be willing to pay it (either paying most of the talent for them to stay OR watching some walk to keep the cap under control) as long as Super Bowl titles are coming with the territory. Dallas needs to win a Super Bowl within the next two years for Jerry to reap the rewards of stockpling talent and paying them well.

 

[DallasFanSince86]

Uncapped years are almost here. All Jerry needs to do is dig deeper.

That is what I was thinking, as long as enough owners vote to opt out of the CBA in November, of course.

 

[Aven8]

I think RW sucks as much as the next guy....but how long have we been looking for safeties since Woody?? If we get rid of anyone it's got to be RW. Hamlin played great last year and is still young. I still find it curious how everybody thinks that safeties, to steal a line from BP, grow on tress!

I think Hamlin is our guy....move him to strong and trade Roy. Then you can put Watkins at FS (I think he's ready).

 

[Eskimo]

I think RW sucks as much as the next guy....but how long have we been looking for safeties since Woody?? If we get rid of anyone it's got to be RW. Hamlin played great last year and is still young. I still find it curious how everybody thinks that safeties, to still a line from BP, grow on tress!

I think Hamlin is our guy....move him to strong and trade Roy. Then you can put Watkins at FS (I think he's ready).

$7M/year is too expensive for a safety given the other salaries on this team. We will have to develop our safeties or draft them. It is not a premium position on the football field.