Can We Count on Julius?

[dargonking999]

Emmitt was out for the rest of the season when he broke his.

i could have sworn that happened the last game of the regualr season, in 1993

 

[burmafrd]

JJ would not have gotten this injury if not from being rolled from behind- that happens to a lot of players. Maybe he has bad luck- that hit that broke his shoulder blade was a freak one. Bad luck is something that CAN change; hopefully it does.

 

[Nors]

http://www.profootball-reference.com/players/SmitEm00.htm


THOSE THAT ARE TRYING TO SAY EMMITT WAS NOT DURABLE ARE MAD......

 

[burmafrd]

Emmitt broke his shoulder blade the first season with the Cards. I think it was the second or third game. Then he came back the next year and almost put 1000 on the board- which considering we are talking the cards was quite an accomplishment.

 

[burmafrd]

Of course Emmitt was durable- many SMALL backs are.

 

[EveryoneElse]

Getting rolled from behind- BLAME HIM FOR THAT TOO?

So as long as JJ keeps getting injured freakishly, he's not injury prone? Ok. An injury is an injury is an injury. You want to pretend theres no concern....fine.

This thread is dumb....so dumb you felt the need to open it up twice and post twice.

 

[EveryoneElse]

Of course Emmitt was durable- many SMALL backs are.

Thats why there are never doubts about small backs carrying the ball 25 times a game. Yeah, small backs never have have durability questions.......

 

[Rack]

Emmitt was out for the rest of the season when he broke his.

No, he wasn't.


And, Burm, you need to settle down. It's a perfectly legitimate topic. He HAS had problems staying on the field in his short career. That's a fact, no matter how you slice it. There will ALWAYS be a reason why someone misses a game, so pointing out WHY he's missed games is irrelevant.


If this topic bothers you so much I'd advise you not to read it (or any others that are similiar) anymore.

 

[burmafrd]

Take a look at the top backs of all time- HOW MANY of them were over 6ft?
In carries, yds, years- there are more small backs there then big ones.

 

[Rack]

What does a RBs height have to do with whether he's injury prone or not?


Seriously, where the F are you taking this thread?

Just cuz he's "Small" doesn't mean he can't be injury prone.


Here's the top 10 leading rushers of all time:

1. Emmitt Smith - 17,403
2. Walter Payton - 16,726
3. Barry Sanders - 15,269
4. Eric Dickerson - 13,259
5. Tony Dorsett - 12,739
6. Jerome Bettis - 12,353
7. Jim Brown - 12,312
8. Marcus Allen - 12,243
9. Franco Harris - 12,120
10. Thurman Thomas - 12,074



4 of them are over six feet tall, and another one is Jerome Bettis (at 5'11") and we all know Bettis isn't a "Small" RB.


Being a "Short" RB doesn't mean they aren't prone to injury.

 

[EveryoneElse]

Take a look at the top backs of all time- HOW MANY of them were over 6ft?
In carries, yds, years- there are more small backs there then big ones.

depends on what you consider small. If you consider Barry, Emmitt, and baks their size...I'd say that their builds were average...not small, or smaller, or even smallish.

 

[EveryoneElse]

What does a RBs height have to do with whether he's injury prone or not?


Seriously, where the F are you taking this thread?

Just cuz he's "Small" doesn't mean he can't be injury prone.


Here's the top 10 leading rushers of all time:

1. Emmitt Smith - 17,403
2. Walter Payton - 16,726
3. Barry Sanders - 15,269
4. Eric Dickerson - 13,259
5. Tony Dorsett - 12,739
6. Jerome Bettis - 12,353
7. Jim Brown - 12,312
8. Marcus Allen - 12,243
9. Franco Harris - 12,120
10. Thurman Thomas - 12,074



4 of them are over six feet tall, and another one is Jerome Bettis (at 5'11") and we all know Bettis isn't a "Small" RB.


Being a "Short" RB doesn't mean they aren't prone to injury.

small to me is something like avieon cason. When he was here, he was too small to carry a load. Thats what a small back is, imo. Has nothing to do with an inch here or there, it's the build.

 

[BadKarma]

Let's see, he was out 8 of 16 games last year and already missed almost 2 games this year. So he's been able to play, what - 12 of 22 games so far. Uh, yeah, I'd say there's some durability issues regardless of how the injuries occured.

But to be fair, there's a lot of good backs who are having injuries as well. Hopefully he can recover and stay healthy and be fresh to make a run in the second half of the season.

 

[Rack]

small to me is something like avieon cason. When he was here, he was too small to carry a load. Thats what a small back is, imo. Has nothing to do with an inch here or there, it's the build.

Exactly. Which is why Burm's "opinion" on "Small" rbs is completely irrelevant.

 

[burmafrd]

JJ is bigger (heavier) then Emmitt. At 212 he is heavier then a lot of those backs on that list. Look at the starting RB's in the NFL this year- how many are much heavier then JJ? Small backs give the D less area to hit- and being quicker then large backs are usually able to avoid some of those hits. With the size and strength of the D players of today- being a big back is no real advantage.

 

[burmafrd]

Didn't someone point out at the time that Dave Meggett was smaller then Cason?
He did pretty well for quite a while.

 

[burmafrd]

If you have a strong body, you can last. Simple as that- small does not matter- as long as you are strong.

 

[EveryoneElse]

JJ is bigger (heavier) then Emmitt. At 212 he is heavier then a lot of those backs on that list. Look at the starting RB's in the NFL this year- how many are much heavier then JJ? Small backs give the D less area to hit- and being quicker then large backs are usually able to avoid some of those hits. With the size and strength of the D players of today- being a big back is no real advantage.

You have to be able to take a beating 25 times a game. Backs that are considered small don't withstand the beatings.

 

[Nors]

The great backs are durable

The injury proned ones right wrong or indifferant fade away.

JJ is at that crossroads.

 

[Rack]

A strong body doesn't matter either. The WAY a RB runs has more to do with their durability then their height or strength.

And by "Way" I mean style, for lack of a better word. JuJo was elusive last year, but he hasn't ran real elusive this year. He's been plowing his head into the line more often then he's tried to make people miss.

A perfect example is the Raiders game. JuJo gets the ball on a Draw and gets tackled one on one by Warren Sapp. If he wanted to he could of either EASILY made Sapp miss or he could of just bursted past him. But he didn't try to juke and he didn't try to run by him. He stayed at the same speed and got tackled for a loss. Last year he would of blown by Sapp.