Can you guess the player from the scouting report?

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AFC scout: "I think he has some upside although there are some things that are just ordinary about him."

NFC scout: "The guys that Tedford has had, what have they developed into? They're too well-schooled. So mechanical. So robotic. I don't know if they become good pro players. I think is in that ---------same mold."

AFC scout: "I don't like him. He's a clone of Harrington and Boller. They all throw the same way. What have those guys done? Nothing. If you take him in the second round, fine. Heady guy. They do a marvelous job of coaching quarterbacks there. I don't think he's as good as the top quarterbacks coming out last year."

AFC scout: "I don't think he's in the class of the quarterbacks that came out last year. Strong arm. Pretty good athlete. Still has some holes in his game."

AFC scout: "He's a system quarterback. 3-, 5-, 7-step guy. Can't create on his own. Panics under pressure. Gets flustered easy. I don't think there's a quarterback in the draft worthy of a first-round pick. I'm dead serious. None of them are worth it.(this guy should be fired on wrong he was)
 
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I think this review shows 2 things:

1. How tough it is to evaluate QB's in general.

2. How much Rodgers grew and became a better QB just through mental reps sitting behind Brett Favre.

That's why we need to draft a guy at #4, assuming the scouts give the thumbs up. That will give him the time and mental reps he will need when he finally gets behind center after Romo is gone.
 

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I think this review shows 2 things:

1. How tough it is to evaluate QB's in general.

2. How much Rodgers grew and became a better QB just through mental reps sitting behind Brett Favre.

That's why we need to draft a guy at #4, assuming the scouts give the thumbs up. That will give him the time and mental reps he will need when he finally gets behind center after Romo is gone.

Rodgers wasn't a top 10 pick. He was drafted in back half of first round
 

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Rodgers wasn't a top 10 pick. He was drafted in back half of first round

The fact that such awesome all-timers like Cedric Benson, Troy Williamson, Mike Williams, Travis Johnson, Erasmus James, Matt Jones, Alex Barron and Fabian Washington all went ahead of him really goes to show you a lot about how the draft functions and especially how QBs are misevaluated and undervalued. It was not like the 23 teams picking ahead of GB all had their starter and also a QB of the future. They went for "immediate impact starters".
 

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Rodgers wasn't a top 10 pick. He was drafted in back half of first round

I know what you're saying, but the League has become more QB-centric, and I think if your guy is a year or maybe two away from retirement, you grab his replacement when you get the chance. If Aaron Rodgers were coming out of college this year, I doubt he'd slide into the 20's.
 

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Was this whole post created just to show how wrong scouts can be? Did anyone really need an entire new thread for that? I don't get it...
 

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The fact that such awesome all-timers like Cedric Benson, Troy Williamson, Mike Williams, Travis Johnson, Erasmus James, Matt Jones, Alex Barron and Fabian Washington all went ahead of him really goes to show you a lot about how the draft functions and especially how QBs are misevaluated and undervalued. It was not like the 23 teams picking ahead of GB all had their starter and also a QB of the future. They went for "immediate impact starters".

Excellent post and shows why going for that "immediate impact" player isn't always the safest or best choice, even for a potential Superbowl contender.
 

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After the combine we'll get a better idea for all these qbs. Paxton lynch is dropping and wentz is rising up charts on mocks already. It's all a moot point right now
 

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Excellent post and shows why going for that "immediate impact" player isn't always the safest or best choice, even for a potential Superbowl contender.

You do also realize how many arguments could be made to the contrary of that as well, right?

We all know how often players flop, whether they're drafted for immediate impact or for tutoring and impact down the road. Using a Hall-of-Fame QB who had a historic plunge as an example isn't a compelling argument against trying to find an immediate impact starter. Furthermore, just as strong an argument, if not stronger, could be made for teams who reached for QB's because that particular draft was otherwise QB deficient.
 

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The fact that such awesome all-timers like Cedric Benson, Troy Williamson, Mike Williams, Travis Johnson, Erasmus James, Matt Jones, Alex Barron and Fabian Washington all went ahead of him really goes to show you a lot about how the draft functions and especially how QBs are misevaluated and undervalued. It was not like the 23 teams picking ahead of GB all had their starter and also a QB of the future. They went for "immediate impact starters".

Didn't Alex Smith go number 1 that draft
 

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I know what you're saying, but the League has become more QB-centric, and I think if your guy is a year or maybe two away from retirement, you grab his replacement when you get the chance. If Aaron Rodgers were coming out of college this year, I doubt he'd slide into the 20's.

Maybe that's Wentz. My point is the draft isn't a sure fire thing. Players excel and bust at all rounds. If QB is best player rated on the board at 4 ten take him but don't reach for a QB just to reach for him. Take best player available, if it's not a QB then don't draft a QB
 

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Maybe that's Wentz. My point is the draft isn't a sure fire thing. Players excel and bust at all rounds. If QB is best player rated on the board at 4 ten take him but don't reach for a QB just to reach for him. Take best player available, if it's not a QB then don't draft a QB

I'm normally a BPA guy, but QB's are different. Everybody overdrafts them, so you're never going to pick one where his rating says he should go. If you wait, you're just overdrafting a less talented player.

It all comes down to your assessment of talent. Some guys are talented but go later because they went to smaller schools, had injuries or bad seasons. A lot of people think Wentz is as good as Goff and Lynch. If that's the Cowboys, I'm all for trading down however far they think is safe and getting a QB as well as another day two pick, or so. I'd just hate to get cute and lose our next franchise passer.
 
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