CB Damontae Kazee - SDSU

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This is game film, but it also doubles as a highlight vid.

You won't find a better CB in run support. And dude's a ballhawk with 15 INT's in the last two seasons.

Stephen Jones hinted at the fact that they need players in the secondary with ball skills when he said, "How do you get better if you keep paying the guys you got who aren’t making plays on the ball a lot of money?"

I just don't see how he's not a Cowboy if he's there in Round 5. He's a good scheme fit. I would love him for CB depth as the CB4.

Not highly touted because of his size (5'10") and 40 time (4.54), but I can see him being Scandrick's eventual replacement.
 

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Honestly some of the toughest choices will be in the fourth rd, backup QB, CB, swing tackle. Choices will be made. Putting in my two cents for Brad Kaaya for backup QB in the 4th, hoping we have some talent fall into our laps with the first tier of QB's moving up into the early 1st rd.
 

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Honestly some of the toughest choices will be in the fourth rd, backup QB, CB, swing tackle. Choices will be made. Putting in my two cents for Brad Kaaya for backup QB in the 4th, hoping we have some talent fall into our laps with the first tier of QB's moving up into the early 1st rd.

I am so far against drafting a QB at all, never mind in the 4th. This team is built to win now and needs players who can come in and compete immediately. If Dak regresses or gets hurt, our season is in the toilet anyway; what's a rookie QB going to help?

I know that might seem short-sighted but if Dak is what we think he is, then a replacement long-term solution shouldn't be a concern. If he does turn out to be a fluke and badly regresses next year, then we'll be set in a good spot to take advantage of next year's loaded QB class if need be.
 

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I am so far against drafting a QB at all, never mind in the 4th. This team is built to win now and needs players who can come in and compete immediately. If Dak regresses or gets hurt, our season is in the toilet anyway; what's a rookie QB going to help?

I know that might seem short-sighted but if Dak is what we think he is, then a replacement long-term solution shouldn't be a concern. If he does turn out to be a fluke and badly regresses next year, then we'll be set in a good spot to take advantage of next year's loaded QB class if need be.

We cannot be an ostrich and stick our head in the sand, Kellen Moore is less than average for a team that should be in the thick of the playoffs. I agree we need to win now but history shows you have to develop this kind of talent, unless you win the lottery like we did last year(that was a draft you talk about for ages). This is how teams that make the playoffs work by paying attention to the details and building a strong framework. The front office has avoided these kind of picks in the past in favor of the "win now" attitude, well they have lost one whole season with that thinking as recently as two years ago. Parts of this front office getting better is making these unglamorous choices. Next we just need to wean them off of drafting hobbled players in the second rd hoping for a home-run. A well run front office is a difficult job if done correctly and not full of rainbows and unicorns.
 

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Honestly some of the toughest choices will be in the fourth rd, backup QB, CB, swing tackle. Choices will be made. Putting in my two cents for Brad Kaaya for backup QB in the 4th, hoping we have some talent fall into our laps with the first tier of QB's moving up into the early 1st rd.
Put me down for Greg Ward Jr in the 4th
 

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We cannot be an ostrich and stick our head in the sand, Kellen Moore is less than average for a team that should be in the thick of the playoffs. I agree we need to win now but history shows you have to develop this kind of talent, unless you win the lottery like we did last year(that was a draft you talk about for ages). This is how teams that make the playoffs work by paying attention to the details and building a strong framework. The front office has avoided these kind of picks in the past in favor of the "win now" attitude, well they have lost one whole season with that thinking as recently as two years ago. Parts of this front office getting better is making these unglamorous choices. Next we just need to wean them off of drafting hobbled players in the second rd hoping for a home-run. A well run front office is a difficult job if done correctly and not full of rainbows and unicorns.

I wholeheartedly agree that an upgrade at the backup QB spot is an urgent need, but I think it's better left to a veteran who has at least proven something in the league, not a mid round pick when the defense is in such a need of players. If we had a more proven defense, I'd probably have a different viewpoint on it, but the way the team is currently constructed, the need is for defense.

We don't need to hit he lottery with our backup, the offensive line and run in game allows for having a game manager. My first choice would be Ryan Fitzpatrick. He's only a year removed from a very productive season with the Jets. He struggles when under pressure trying to improvise. Quick read WCO with a great line and running game would play To his strengths.
 

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I am so far against drafting a QB at all, never mind in the 4th. This team is built to win now and needs players who can come in and compete immediately. If Dak regresses or gets hurt, our season is in the toilet anyway; what's a rookie QB going to help?

I know that might seem short-sighted but if Dak is what we think he is, then a replacement long-term solution shouldn't be a concern. If he does turn out to be a fluke and badly regresses next year, then we'll be set in a good spot to take advantage of next year's loaded QB class if need be.
Yep, what could a rookie 4th round QB possibly accomplish?
 

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Yep, what could a rookie 4th round QB possibly accomplish?

We already got lucky hitting on Dak in the 4th, but that's not the point. We got what looks like a franchise QB in the 4th already, why try to double dip? Maybe we hit again at a different position?

The point isn't that 4th round QBs are worthless, Dak is proof that's false, it's that a 4th round pick is still a very good player, so why spend on a position we already have solidified and not a position on need?
 

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Been saying since the combine that we should draft this kid late and turn him into a ball hawking FS. Unfortunately, his stock seems to be on the rise and if we want him, it'll probably cost us a 4th.
 

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Been saying since the combine that we should draft this kid late and turn him into a ball hawking FS. Unfortunately, his stock seems to be on the rise and if we want him, it'll probably cost us a 4th.
I think he'll go in the 3rd.
 

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I know you guys worship Mel Kiper so I'll let you know Melly Mel says Kazee is probably going to go in the 4th round but out play some corners taken in the 2nd.

Considering he's never wrong about anything I'd file that away.
 

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Been saying since the combine that we should draft this kid late and turn him into a ball hawking FS. Unfortunately, his stock seems to be on the rise and if we want him, it'll probably cost us a 4th.

So in this case, what would then do with Byron Jones, move him back to corner? He's certainly not physical or strong enough in the run game to play SS.
 

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So in this case, what would then do with Byron Jones, move him back to corner? He's certainly not physical or strong enough in the run game to play SS.
My idea was to groom him and add depth to the position and to allow us to have some flexibility if we choose not to pick up the 5th year option for Jones and have a smooth transition once he hits free agency. That was when I thought we could get him late day three. It would have been a luxury pick.
 

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New Hampshire's Casey DeAndrade reminds me a little of Kazee, both under 6'0 (DeAndrade is 5'11) and corners who are probably better suited to play safety at pro level due to their hitting ability and ball hawk skills. DeAndrade is a UDFA however. And not only taller but bigger (205 plus).
 

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So in this case, what would then do with Byron Jones, move him back to corner? He's certainly not physical or strong enough in the run game to play SS.
You have to put on your big boy pants FO and decide what you have in Byron Jones, he has had enough time to showcase his talents. He may just be a nice player but nothing special. Makes picking in the draft much easier.
 

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You have to put on your big boy pants FO and decide what you have in Byron Jones, he has had enough time to showcase his talents. He may just be a nice player but nothing special. Makes picking in the draft much easier.

And I think this draft will be telling as to what the FO thinks. If they throw us a curveball and don't go corner heavy and grab a FS, it may be indicative of moving him back to corner. I always thought him a better fit at corner anyway. BJ is still kind if an unknown on defense.
 

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And I think this draft will be telling as to what the FO thinks. If they throw us a curveball and don't go corner heavy and grab a FS, it may be indicative of moving him back to corner. I always thought him a better fit at corner anyway. BJ is still kind if an unknown on defense.
You are being kind to BJ calling him an unknown. I think most know what we have in him, a good player who is versatile but more a jack of all trades than master of one. Which FS is on your radar with a premium pick? I have several SS's early on like Josh Jones from NC.
 
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