CB is a need- not a great one, but a need

burmafrd

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Our starters are very good- BUT: Glenn is 35. Now maybe he is the second coming of Darrel Green and will play great for several more years- but reality is that we cannot count on that. Henry is 31 and should have at least 2 or so more top years; BUT he has battled injuries the last two seasons.
Reeves and Jones have not shown anything that indicates that they can be quality starters. With Hamlin and Watkins, I really do not think that THIS year we need to go high for a safety. NT is a concern, but they are available much later in the draft. We are solid along the O line, and in the backfield. WRs are a little old in the starter area, but we have some young guys with potential that need to be evaluated. So in the first we should go for a top CB IF ONE IS THERE. If not, we need to go BPA or trade down if possible. BUT we need a pretty good at least CB from this draft.
 

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CB should certainly be at or near the top of the list for our needs...I really like Revis alot, but I also think that Reggie Nelson could play CB and transition from FS permanently.
 

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i think cb is the biggest need. but i expect we go wr in the 1st. glenn is getting old, henry turns 31 this year and jones and reeves are f.a.'s. i think reeves is a decent player but i don't think he is a future starter and a rookie would be much cheaper. maybe wade or wilson in the 2nd if we go wr in the 1st
 

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Totally agree with you re need for CB and I've been posting same things for weeks. I don't understand those who state we okay at this position for 2-3 years. What world are they living in? My first choice is Revis but he'll probably be gone before we pick so Aaron Ross may be the man. If Cowboys want to trade down to add a 3rd/4th rounder, that's okay so long as we got a player who starts for us in 1-2 years. I just don't believe you gamble in the first round.
 

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Ther probably only is about 3 CBs worth a first; Hall, Revis and Houston. To me Ross is a borderline call (the way Jarret ate his lunch in the bowl game makes me wonder). McCauley would be a 2nd rd pick- he stank it up his senior year and got benched.
 

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I like Hughes alot too. He is a physical CB and was very consistent throughout his career. Eric Wright too...he is a freakish athlete that will get better with time.
 

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Doesn't wright have some charactor issues?
Hughes supposedly struggles in man to man coverage- not something we want. Also his fastest 40 time was 4.58 as his pro day- at the combine it was 4.74
 

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David Irons out of Auburn is a good prospect as well if Dallas looks at CB in the 2nd or 3rd rd.
 

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Terry Glenn 33 this year
Terrell owens 34 this year

against

Terrence Newman 29 this year
Anthony Henry 31 this year


Our DB's are a combined 7 years younger than our WR's .....

WR is a bigger need.
 

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burmafrd;1454131 said:
Our starters are very good- BUT: Glenn is 35. Now maybe he is the second coming of Darrel Green and will play great for several more years- but reality is that we cannot count on that. Henry is 31 and should have at least 2 or so more top years; BUT he has battled injuries the last two seasons.
Reeves and Jones have not shown anything that indicates that they can be quality starters. With Hamlin and Watkins, I really do not think that THIS year we need to go high for a safety. NT is a concern, but they are available much later in the draft. We are solid along the O line, and in the backfield. WRs are a little old in the starter area, but we have some young guys with potential that need to be evaluated. So in the first we should go for a top CB IF ONE IS THERE. If not, we need to go BPA or trade down if possible. BUT we need a pretty good at least CB from this draft.

You can say that for just about every position.

I would not be surprised if Jones and Reeves both developed into shutdown corners. They have the athleticism to do very well IMO.

Besides why waste a 1st round pick on a player that most likely won't start this year.
 

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I also would like a cornerback during Day One picks, and wouldn't mind a true difference maker at safety, such as Nelson or Merriweather, as they stretch the dynamics when in coverage...I also would like an offensive guard and pass rushing DE/OLB candidate in Day One also...so, maybe a trade down to a low first round and high second round positioning, could yield something during Day One, like: OLB/DE Spencer, FS Merriweather, CB Wright, and OG Ramirez.
 

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I really DOUBT that Reeves and Jones will ever be good starters.
One thing to remember as regards our CBs: Glenn for all intents and purposes should be considered a starter as well considereing how often we play nickel.
 

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burmafrd;1454193 said:
Doesn't wright have some charactor issues?
Hughes supposedly struggles in man to man coverage- not something we want. Also his fastest 40 time was 4.58 as his pro day- at the combine it was 4.74
Wright did have some discipline issues at USC, but at UNLV he was a model citizen. Hughes did time slow, but again his production was there. I think with is physicality at the LOS his speed is not as big of an issue.
 

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Wright was caught with a whole load of Ecstasy. That is a road I do not want to see the boys go down in any way.
 

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burmafrd;1454209 said:
I really DOUBT that Reeves and Jones will ever be good starters.
One thing to remember as regards our CBs: Glenn for all intents and purposes should be considered a starter as well considereing how often we play nickel.

We don't know that Reeves and Jones won't be good starters. And Glenn is a solid veteran backup.

I'm just joking around Burm.

Actually I'm just trying to make the same arguments that was used by others when I was suggesting the Cowboys take an offensive lineman. I would not be against them taking a CB at all.

But I will say that IMO it is silly for anyone to claim that Reeves and Jones can't become solid starters, but they have so much faith in McQuistan that they believe the Cowboys should pass on a good tackle if one is available.

I'm not saying that you were one of the guys making that argument in that thread, it just came to mind when I read your post.
 

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I have heard NOTHING from any coaches or anyone else that Reeves and Jones have real potential as high quality starters. Spare parts. Unlike with McQ where just about everyone is singing his praises.
 

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conner01;1454154 said:
i think cb is the biggest need. but i expect we go wr in the 1st. glenn is getting old, henry turns 31 this year and jones and reeves are f.a.'s. i think reeves is a decent player but i don't think he is a future starter and a rookie would be much cheaper. maybe wade or wilson in the 2nd if we go wr in the 1st

I agree that CB is a greater need but I think Dallas will pass up any WR not named Calvin "Hobbs" Johnson. According to the draft experts, Johnson is the only WR with 1st round talent.

There should be at least two 1st-round talent CBs available when Dallas picks at 22 and, unless one of the top 15-rated players drops, I think they will go with CB.
 

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burmafrd;1454289 said:
I have heard NOTHING from any coaches or anyone else that Reeves and Jones have real potential as high quality starters. Spare parts. Unlike with McQ where just about everyone is singing his praises.

Lots of players have been praised. That does not make them legit starters. But I'm not going to make this another McQuistan thread.

I'm just saying that any argument that could be made for a CB, or WR early day one could be made for a OL, especially OT.
 

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I still like the guy from Cal-Poly. At least, he has great numbers and good size. I'd like us to take a guy like that in the third or fourth, groom him for a year while we see how Henry performs, and then start him if we need to. If Henry does okay, he still be the nickel guy when Glenn's contract is up.

Part of the point being, even if you think Henry is borderline, it's going to be VERY tough for a rookie to step in and play better than a solid veteran from Day One. CB is tough for a rookie -- there are very few Newmans out there.
 

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This is a good draft for corners. We should be able to find one on the first day at some point that could eventually challenge for a starting position. Several are sub 4.50-forty guys that seem to do well in man coverage. A couple are undersized (at this point) or aren't aggressive in the running game but give them a year or two to learn and they could be productive players with more upside than what the Cowboys currently have behind Glenn.
 
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