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dbair1967;1999628 said:
not sure I agree with all that...I do agree on WR, in that I am not sure any of them are really worth 1st rd picks...I am pretty sure that only 1 or 2 have a chance to make any real impact here immediately, and maybe not even that

at CB, I think there are 2 or 3 pretty talented guys, but none of them are Terence Newman or Champ Bailey type CB's...after the top 2-3, there a dropoff and the next 6 or 8 are all about the same IMO...I doubt any of the top 2-3 CB's makes it to our spot at 22, and I doubt Kelly is available either

thats why I've been a proponent of moving up...go get a real impact player in McFadden, and draft a good CB prospect who can play in the nickel in round 2

David

There isn't 1 guy that is in the Newman or Bailey mold but there are at least 8 guys that I can see contributing to NFL rosters for many years.

BTW I have no problem with us moving up for McFadden either.

We have 2 1st round picks and have earned the right to do that if we so well please.

If we stay put though I believe we will get a good quality corner that will most likely not be a bust.

The most safe bet at corner in this draft IMO is Mike Jenkins.
 

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dbair1967;1999666 said:
He had a couple bad plays by WR's in the Giants game that hurt us, but he made alot of bad throws...he missed some easy ones and threw a terrible pass that got picked at the end of the game, when it appeared had he thrown to TO on the outside he was open (instead he threw basically into triple coverage at a gimpy Terry Glenn)...I'm not blaming him solely for the loss, but he did play poorly as has been the case both years once the calendar hit December. And I'm sure some ofthe bad late season play this yr could be due to the injury, but in either case it supports my cause for continued upgrading of the run game, which too often the past few seasons has disappeared.

David

Well I still disagree with you regarding Romo's poor badly but I'm with you about our running game, it needs to get better and it will with HH coaching the oline...
 

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Vintage;1999649 said:
Part of the reason we didn't throw much against Seattle's depleted secondary was because Romo wasn't really accurate that playoff game. He was missing the WRs, hence, we dialed it back - a lot - in that game.

Yeah, his final numbers look good enough that game. But his play was the reason we weren't more aggressive the Seattle game.

Naw, I don't think so, BP conservative BS game plan is why we didn't throw it more. And again, he was throwing against a secondary that was fresh off the street. We never attacked them thru the air like we should have...
 

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considering our top WRs were drafted in 1996 when Barry Switzer was our head coach and Michael Irving was celebrating his 30th birthday with Alfredo Roberts a couple of strippers and other stuff, we need to address this position now.
 

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Totally agree with you. I was hoping someone agreed that Malcolm Kelly, if available, should be our pick at number 22. Or if we could swing a trade for our #22 for, say Roy Williams, we should.



CATCH17;1999579 said:
Unless we are getting Malcom Kelly I think the first 5 or 6 corners are better than the 2 - 6 receivers

The Cornerback position is as loaded as I have ever seen it and I think we need to take the best one available @ 22 if Malcom Kelly isn't available.
 

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jamesdojr;1999545 said:
Again with our current roster, T.O. staying healthy is critical.

and Newman staying on the field isn't?

You'd take Anthony Henry and oh let's say Evan Oglesby over Witten and Crayton?
 

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I agree with those who say we need to upgrade WR first, not that we don't need to add to the secondary. But here's another question. Would you expect a 1st round pick to come in and start ahead of Henry. Don't forget that Henry was injured some of last year, too. We need a No. 2 receiver. Glenn is going to be gone before TC starts. Crayton is a great No. 3, but didn't step it up like a No. 2 does.

Now don't yell at me because I said Crayton didn't step it up as a No. 2. Compare him to other playoff No. 2s. Toomer. Welker (probably not technically a No. 2, but looked at quite often). Wayne. Jennings (although probably became Favre's favorite receiver). Fitzgerald. Houshmanzadeh. I can keep going, but I think you see the point.

For this offense to work, you have to have a receiver who can get it done. I love Witten, but he can't fill the void if TO is out. We need another big time receiver. He's not on this current roster.
 

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the DoNkEy PuNcH;2000045 said:
We need another big time receiver. He's not on this current roster.
and he's not a FA. So unless we trade for an established guy, the draft is our only option.
 

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baj1dallas;2000034 said:
and Newman staying on the field isn't?

You'd take Anthony Henry and oh let's say Evan Oglesby over Witten and Crayton?

we need corners also. IMO we can live with MBIII and a rookie back up. No need to draft a RB in the first 2 rounds
 
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There was nothing wrong with the wide receivers last year however the secondary continues to have major problems...
 

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Mansta54;1999686 said:
Naw, I don't think so, BP conservative BS game plan is why we didn't throw it more. And again, he was throwing against a secondary that was fresh off the street. We never attacked them thru the air like we should have...


:confused: Romo threw 29 passes that game. it wasn't parcells fault. and to the 1st few posters who said "as long as we got Romo" to the if owens got hurt question, hey how did Romo do in the 2nd half of the panther game and the Commander game when owens wasn't there? exactly just another reason to get a homerun hitter in the running game(see sig) because if owens goes down we have a bunch of snails at our "skill" positions on offense. Romo needs a star wr he's not brady people. get a cb in the 2nd round and sign roy williams after next season.
 

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CATCH17;1999540 said:
I completely disagree.

As long as we have Romo there is hope.

You dont have 13 Pro Bowlers on 1 team and everything ride on 1 person other than a Quarterback.

Disagree!! If T.O goes down who do we relay on Just Witten?? I love Romo but the guy needs more playmakers out there sorry.
 

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the DoNkEy PuNcH;2000045 said:
I agree with those who say we need to upgrade WR first, not that we don't need to add to the secondary. But here's another question. Would you expect a 1st round pick to come in and start ahead of Henry. Don't forget that Henry was injured some of last year, too. We need a No. 2 receiver. Glenn is going to be gone before TC starts. Crayton is a great No. 3, but didn't step it up like a No. 2 does.

Now don't yell at me because I said Crayton didn't step it up as a No. 2. Compare him to other playoff No. 2s. Toomer. Welker (probably not technically a No. 2, but looked at quite often). Wayne. Jennings (although probably became Favre's favorite receiver). Fitzgerald. Houshmanzadeh. I can keep going, but I think you see the point.

For this offense to work, you have to have a receiver who can get it done. I love Witten, but he can't fill the void if TO is out. We need another big time receiver. He's not on this current roster.

I disagree Crayton did one heck of a job as a # 2 and without even looking I bet his numbers were top 10 out of all the #2 receivers in the NFL.
 

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The reason we need a CB more is because we only have 2!! We need one more good CB and then we at least need another one that can be serviceable and play special teams effectively. Assuming we stay healthy which I know you can't assume we had enough offense to win a Super Bowl last year even if Glenn wasn't healthy. CB is a MUST MUST get right now. Newman and Henry are fine but after that we literally don't have anything hence making CB a much bigger need right now.
 

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last year when henry got hurt our back up cbs sucked so I think we should draft a Cb in the first becuase I don't want that to happen again when we get have a 1st round back-up instead of a 3rd
 

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dalboy;2000367 said:
last year when henry got hurt our back up cbs sucked so I think we should draft a Cb in the first becuase I don't want that to happen again when we get have a 1st round back-up instead of a 3rd


i wonder how lance frazier is doing...we should give him a buzz
 

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theogt;1999535 said:
The question is, do we need to improve our pass offense or our pass defense? While Newman/Henry seem comparable to TO/Crayton, our pass offense also includes Romo, which tips the comparison strongly infavor of upgrading our pass defense. I think if you look at the statistical performance of both groups, that should bear that out.

Bottom line is we can spend a 1st rounder on both.
Yeah but if your are going to include romo then you must include ellis and ware.
 

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I think both are needed and I think Dallas will be able to address both areas in day 1 of the draft.
 
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