CBS11 Blog: Steve Dennis on Aikman's Comments

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Some hyperbole on Aikman but if RW fails on his own then it will be a huge bust. Don't see it. The team may fail for many reasons and RW may not set the NFL on fire but he'll be at least decent.
 

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I did not see Aikman's comments as him saying that it was a bad trade . I interpreted it as saying if Roy Williams and the Cowboys have another year like last that it could be considered one of the worst trades and I see his point.

they brought him in last year to help the Cowboys get over the hump and instead the Cowboys went in a direction of disappointment .

Cowboys gave up a number one draft pick and a 3rd rounder.
that is substantial if the player you get in return can not help you...

I for one think Roy Williams is a very good player and I think he should help, still young player , Dallas does not have to pray a WR falls to them in the draft. there is no WR of his caliber in free agency ( I understand there is Holt and Plexy glass ,but age and off field issues in my mind put Roy Williams way ahead)
I also feel it helped clear out the locker room. I enjoyed watching T.O . on the field but got tiresome of whenever you heard anything about the Cowboys it was T.O. .. Heck if the guy took too long in the bath room it was news....

also there were deff clicks in the locker room for what ever reason, myself I think the coaches should take some responsibility for letting this happen but what was done was done and it needed clearing up...
 

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stasheroo;2727504 said:
Yeah.

Question the receiver who went to a Pro Bowl in freakin' Detroit.

But never question the coordinator who's never done squat on his own, despite having the best talent in the league at his disposal.

Real rational there...

Hey, I'm just going off the actual quote. Only on this site would Aikman's comments about RW be twisted as a bizarre defense of Jason Garrett.
 

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Idgit;2727845 said:
Hey, I'm just going off the actual quote. Only on this site would Aikman's comments about RW be twisted as a bizarre defense of Jason Garrett.

I don't find it bizarre at all myself.

It seems a bit hypocritical of ol' Troy to put such huge expectations on Roy Williams - who he doesn't have a history with, and never once talk about his buddy Garrett needing to rebound.

Despite what some of the friends of the Redheaded Genius might think, Roy Williams has accomplished some things in this league already - on his own. To date, their good buddy hasn't.

If anyone has more to prove, it's Garrett.
 

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Dennis was talking about this last week on GAC. He said he thought the Roy Williams criticism was strangely personal, and out of character for Troy, so he thought it was to cover for Garrett. Like he said then, Garrett has a lot of defenders in the media in this market, including Dennis' boss Babe. And he's definitely right about that.
 

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It wasn't just this year, but last year as well. When the criticism started to come for Garrett by the end of the year, Troy actually went about calling out Roy Williams 'poor route running' directly in the games. It seemed rather personal. Some of it went to just pathetic extremes, such as the toss-up by Romo, forcing Roy to actually come back for the ball. Troy failed to mention that Romo got no protection and Roy's route had nothing to do with the INT. Not a single game went of Troy consistently failing to mention the pathetic play-calling by Garrett.
 

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The thing is that they all, in their own ways (Romo, Garrett, Williams, Owens, etc.) are to blame for the poor offensive production.

The offense will not thrive until all 11 guys are doing their jobs and doing them consistently and it won't matter who is calling the plays or what not.

And the play calling does have to be much better, for certain, so Garrett has plenty of clean up to do himself. They're all at fault for the offense sputtering during stretches last year.
 

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Apollo Creed;2727036 said:
Shanahanahanahan would've been my ideal candidate, had we not had two 'HCs' in house. He just needs a change of scenery, and some solid pieces in place. I'd rather go with whoever was making all the moves last year on draft day, even if it was mostly Jerruh - lets keep rolling with the hot hand. One more draft like last year and we're gonna be setttt.

I'd take Shanahan over Wade, but it's almost a crap shoot. Shanny's defenses haven't been that good lately but I have complete faith that the offense would take a step or two forward under him. But I think the defense would regress to the level of play we saw under Brian Stewart.

But the cowboys have better personnel on defense than Denver has so I don't think we'd get gashed as badly as Denver did, but I still think they'd take a step or two backwards.
 

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BraveHeartFan;2728139 said:
The thing is that they all, in their own ways (Romo, Garrett, Williams, Owens, etc.) are to blame for the poor offensive production.

The offense will not thrive until all 11 guys are doing their jobs and doing them consistently and it won't matter who is calling the plays or what not.

And the play calling does have to be much better, for certain, so Garrett has plenty of clean up to do himself. They're all at fault for the offense sputtering during stretches last year.

I'm sure plenty have mentioned the same thing in the past but I'll mention it again....I think that we'll see better chemistry between Romo and Williams this year since they'll have a complete offseason to work together. And Williams was also battling a foot problem.

When they made that trade it was for 2009 and beyond. Williams came from a completely different system with completely different terminology. QBs and WRs work on routes and their timing for several months during the offseason. You're asking a bit much if you think a guy can just switch teams during the regular season and pick up the system on the fly.
 

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The guys who continue to get "off the hook" are Jerry Jones and Wade Phillips.

Those are the bottom line guys in every organization. The GM and the head coach.

The GM is a joke and has been for a long time, but he isn't going to be fired.
The head coach is a joke (in my opinion) but he won't get fired because he is the owner/gm's buddy.

That leaves a lot of talk about T.O., coordinators, Roy Williams and a whole host of others.

To me it is a LOT OF WASTED ENERGY. Until there is accountability at the top in this organization (owner/gm), then the rest is window dressing, and just gives fodder for something to type about on a message board.
 

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khiladi;2728126 said:
It wasn't just this year, but last year as well. When the criticism started to come for Garrett by the end of the year, Troy actually went about calling out Roy Williams 'poor route running' directly in the games. It seemed rather personal. Some of it went to just pathetic extremes, such as the toss-up by Romo, forcing Roy to actually come back for the ball. Troy failed to mention that Romo got no protection and Roy's route had nothing to do with the INT. Not a single game went of Troy consistently failing to mention the pathetic play-calling by Garrett.

Michael Irvin also called out RW11's poor route running on his radio show during the past season. Was he also defending Garrett?
 

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Rampage;2726862 said:
ain't that the truth. If Garrett can't do his job again this year he should be fired.
Although it's a year too late, we actually agree for once.
 

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Arch Stanton;2728301 said:
Michael Irvin also called out RW11's poor route running on his radio show during the past season. Was he also defending Garrett?

Did you pay attention to what I wrote:

It wasn't just this year, but last year as well. When the criticism started to come for Garrett by the end of the year, Troy actually went about calling out Roy Williams 'poor route running' directly in the games. It seemed rather personal. Some of it went to just pathetic extremes, such as the toss-up by Romo, forcing Roy to actually come back for the ball. Troy failed to mention that Romo got no protection and Roy's route had nothing to do with the INT. Not a single game went of Troy consistently failing to mention the pathetic play-calling by Garrett
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Further, the fact that Troy didn't mention what everybody else was saying regarding the alleged injury of Roy shows he is justifying Garrett. He never called Garrett out once, especially during the time players like Ray Lewis and Ed Reed were calling him out.

Further, You forget that Garrett is also Irvin's boy. It was precisely in the context of defending Garrett that Irvin called out the 'sloppy' route running of Roy Williams. Michael Irvin's comments are taken with a grain of salt, especially considering he made them accompanied by such statements that it just comes down to execution and that the play-calling had nothing to do with the team suffering. He then went to invoke the great 90s teams, but he conveninetly forgot the years when the offense was called by Dave Schula.

The fact is, the focus being placed on Roy Williams is a smoke-screen for the ineptitude of Garrett and even Deion is stupid, because defending his boy would be better served by putting the focus on Garrett. If Garrett couldn't get the job done with a WR taking away doubele-teams, then what to say of Roy Williams.

Remember, Crayton wasn't known for running slopp-routes and he was the number 2 receiver, plenty of games before Roy even came. So what was the excuse for Garrett, when Crayton was starting?
 

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big dog cowboy;2727048 said:
You are making way to much of that 0-6 stat. It's possible he told teams his first intention was to stay in Dallas.

Just landing 6 interviews tells me his stock is just as high as it was last year. A year really didn't make that much difference.

A rebound this year (as most expect) and he will be land more interviews next off season.

While he may be some what on the hot seat now, he is still sought after and will eventually get a HC job in this league.

Stating up front your intention is to stay in Dallas yet go out doing multiple interviews does not make any logical sense. If his intention was to stay put then he wouldn't do any interviews.

Its not a lie to say that nobody wants Garrett because he squandered so much talent last year, and failed to adjust all season long.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2727886 said:
Dennis was talking about this last week on GAC. He said he thought the Roy Williams criticism was strangely personal, and out of character for Troy, so he thought it was to cover for Garrett. Like he said then, Garrett has a lot of defenders in the media in this market, including Dennis' boss Babe. And he's definitely right about that.

I don't see what Troy had to say as particularly personal. It was a hypothetical as to what would happen if Roy were not successfully integrated into the offense this season. Troy's been critical of RW in the past b/c he thinks he runs sloppy routes, but he's hugely supportive of Romo, Witten, and the running backs. He's complimentary at least of the other WRs, and he's a big fan of Garrett's. I don't see how him being critical of RW issues Garrett a pass in any way, shape, or form.

This is just the GAC team feeding grist into the rumor mill.
 

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Idgit;2728806 said:
I don't see what Troy had to say as particularly personal. It was a hypothetical as to what would happen if Roy were not successfully integrated into the offense this season. Troy's been critical of RW in the past b/c he thinks he runs sloppy routes, but he's hugely supportive of Romo, Witten, and the running backs. He's complimentary at least of the other WRs, and he's a big fan of Garrett's. I don't see how him being critical of RW issues Garrett a pass in any way, shape, or form.

This is just the GAC team feeding grist into the rumor mill.




Troy Aikman said the Williams-to-Dallas trade could be one of the worst ever if the Cowboys' new No. 1 receiver doesn't produce this fall.



"If Roy Williams doesn't turn out to be the player they thought he would be when they made the trade," Aikman said, "I think this would be one of the biggest busts in the history of the league."

When asked to clarify his thoughts, the former Cowboys quarterback didn't hold anything back.

"I just think that when you have the chance to evaluate a player to the degree the Cowboys were able to and then to give up what you gave up, if he's not a No. 1 receiver and not a highly productive player for this team, that's a huge flaw within their scouting department," Aikman said.

I see nothing about Roy being "intergrated into the offense". In fact, there's no criticism of the offense nor its' coordinator at all. No mention of Garrett failing to integrate Williams into the offense, despite that absolutely being the case.

All of Aikman's questioning and comments are directed squarely at Roy Williams.

So Garrett apparently gets a pass. If Roy struggles, it's all on him.

I hope it goes the same way if he succeeds.

But somehow I doubt it.
 

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Aikman clearly doesn't think much of Roy Williams. Hello, Troy. We get it already. Aikman isn't a Dallas scout. If he didn't spend hours upon hours watching Roy Williams' Detroit tapes, then, he needs to shut up.

He's putting the Cowboys' scouting department on notice and seems to be pointing the finger at them. How about giving the guy a chance before you start aiming at the scouting department and the GM.

The way Aikman talks, you would think the Cowboys traded for the great Billy Davis.
 

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khiladi;2728581 said:
Did you pay attention to what I wrote:

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Further, the fact that Troy didn't mention what everybody else was saying regarding the alleged injury of Roy shows he is justifying Garrett. He never called Garrett out once, especially during the time players like Ray Lewis and Ed Reed were calling him out.

Further, You forget that Garrett is also Irvin's boy. It was precisely in the context of defending Garrett that Irvin called out the 'sloppy' route running of Roy Williams. Michael Irvin's comments are taken with a grain of salt, especially considering he made them accompanied by such statements that it just comes down to execution and that the play-calling had nothing to do with the team suffering. He then went to invoke the great 90s teams, but he conveninetly forgot the years when the offense was called by Dave Schula.

The fact is, the focus being placed on Roy Williams is a smoke-screen for the ineptitude of Garrett and even Deion is stupid, because defending his boy would be better served by putting the focus on Garrett. If Garrett couldn't get the job done with a WR taking away doubele-teams, then what to say of Roy Williams.

Remember, Crayton wasn't known for running slopp-routes and he was the number 2 receiver, plenty of games before Roy even came. So what was the excuse for Garrett, when Crayton was starting?

Now I get it. Troy and Irvin are plotting to save Garrett by calling out RW11. I know Troy likes wings, perhaps they sat in the corner at Hooters? Ya think? Hell, I'd reckon Romo and Witten were also there making up secret plays.

It's a conspiracy!

Oh and Crayton. Please! Bill said many times he had to be on his *** all the times.
 

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Arch Stanton;2728978 said:
Now I get it. Troy and Irvin are plotting to save Garrett by calling out RW11. I know Troy likes wings, perhaps they sat in the corner at Hooters? Ya think? Hell, I'd reckon Romo and Witten were also there making up secret plays.

It's a conspiracy!

Oh and Crayton. Please! Bill said many times he had to be on his *** all the times.

I know it isn't what you wanted to here, but that is just the reality of it. The fact is the comments of Michael Irvin were directly in the context of Garrett. Trying to save yourself from embarassment with such stupid hyperbole and exxageration doesn't make this reality disappear.

The ironic thing is you probably also thought the addition of Roy Williams last year was going to make this offense dominant as well, because with so many weapons the Dallas offense would be unstoppable. I guess it's Roy's fault along with TOs, and it just can't be the Red-Headed savior, Garrett. BTW, I'd liek to hear your opinions on how Michael Irvin thinks TO is still a beast and should never have been released.
 

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khiladi;2728985 said:
I know it isn't what you wanted to here, but that is just the reality of it. The fact is the comments of Michael Irvin were directly in the context of Garrett. Trying to save yourself from embarassment with such stupid hyperbole and exxageration doesn't make this reality disappear.

The ironic thing is you probably also thought the addition of Roy Williams last year was going to make this offense dominant as well, because with so many weapons the Dallas offense would be unstoppable. I guess it's Roy's fault along with TOs, and it just can't be the Red-Headed savior, Garrett. BTW, I'd liek to hear your opinions on how Michael Irvin thinks TO is still a beast and should never have been released.

Your bleating about MeO continues. You couldn't resist could you? Your like a stuck record. Your continued bashing of Garrett is you trying to deflect any blame away from MeO.

MeO = RW11
Troy = Khiladi

It's a conspiracy I tell ya!

Go cry somewhere else. LOL
 
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