Chad Greenway

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Chad seems to be dropping and might be available at #18. Does anyone know anything about Greenway and how he compares to the big 3?
 

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i've heard hes not that suitable for the 3-4, but thats just peoples speculation. haven't heard any "professional" draft guys thoughts
 

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AtlCB said:
Chad seems to be dropping and might be available at #18. Does anyone know anything about Greenway and how he compares to the big 3?

Hadn't figured him onto the equation, but he is a good choice if still available. Carpenter or Greenway would fill the need nicely. A real LB to play the strong side!
 

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He's probably the second best OLB in the draft and has the size and athleticism to play in either scheme. If he somehow falls to 18 he's a no brainer.
 

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Duane said:
He's probably the second best OLB in the draft and has the size and athleticism to play in either scheme. If he somehow falls to 18 he's a no brainer.

That's the impressoin I have from reading up on the linebackers in this draft. But if it's such a no brainer, regardless of the scheme, why is there so much skepticism about him on this board?
 

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That's the impressoin I have from reading up on the linebackers in this draft. But if it's such a no brainer, regardless of the scheme, why is there so much skepticism about him on this board?

he doesn't take on blocks, and doesn't rush the passer very well
 

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The_Jackal said:
That's the impressoin I have from reading up on the linebackers in this draft. But if it's such a no brainer, regardless of the scheme, why is there so much skepticism about him on this board?

I wish I knew because I continue to see Greenway showing up ahead of both Lawson and Carperter on many different boards. Myself based on watching Greenway I have to say I like what I saw. How he would do in the 3-4 is anyone guess but then the same could be said about the other prospect that are out there.
 

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Think Derrick Johnson from a year ago. Very similar playing style. If the Cowboys never considered taking Johnson, the wont take Greenway.
 

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Think Derrick Johnson from a year ago. Very similar playing style. If the Cowboys never considered taking Johnson, the wont take Greenway.

:hammer:
 

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MiStar said:
Think Derrick Johnson from a year ago. Very similar playing style. If the Cowboys never considered taking Johnson, the wont take Greenway.

I always appreciate the insights you bring to these questions, so let me press you a little further.

Derrick Johnson had a pretty good rookie year, right, with 90 some odd tackles, a few sacks, a couple of forced fumbles, and some passes defended? Why would we not want that?

As for Greenway's inability to shed blocks or rush the passer, Gil Brandt and the guy who does the player profiles at NFL.com (granted, there are many here who think he's a mediot) say that Greenway is an "excellent" blitzer who is effective rushing the passer and can shed blocks effectively although he is inconsistent in doing so at times. Are they wrong or missing something? And compared to the limilitations or shortcomings of the other prospects how does this player stack up given his past production and future potential?

Thanks.
 

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I always appreciate the insights you bring to these questions, so let me press you a little further.

Derrick Johnson had a pretty good rookie year, right, with 90 some odd tackles, a few sacks, a couple of forced fumbles, and some passes defended? Why would we not want that?

As for Greenway's inability to shed blocks or rush the passer, Gil Brandt and the guy who does the player profiles at NFL.com (granted, there are many here who think he's a mediot) say that Greenway is an "excellent" blitzer who is effective rushing the passer and can shed blocks effectively although he is inconsistent in doing so at times. Are they wrong or missing something? And compared to the limilitations or shortcomings of the other prospects how does this player stack up given his past production and future potential?

Thanks.

Yeah but what does Gil Brandt know. :laugh2: He was only doing this job before most around here were born.
 

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I have raised the Greenway question several times myself, not sure it matters though because he will be the second LB taken and will not be there for us.
 

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The_Jackal said:
I always appreciate the insights you bring to these questions, so let me press you a little further.

Derrick Johnson had a pretty good rookie year, right, with 90 some odd tackles, a few sacks, a couple of forced fumbles, and some passes defended? Why would we not want that?

As for Greenway's inability to shed blocks or rush the passer, Gil Brandt and the guy who does the player profiles at NFL.com (granted, there are many here who think he's a mediot) say that Greenway is an "excellent" blitzer who is effective rushing the passer and can shed blocks effectively although he is inconsistent in doing so at times. Are they wrong or missing something? And compared to the limilitations or shortcomings of the other prospects how does this player stack up given his past production and future potential?

Thanks.
He is a sideline to sideline player. Good for a 4-3, not so good for a 3-4. He also plays smaller than his size would indicate, and was outperformed by Abdul Hodge.
 

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The_Jackal said:
As for Greenway's inability to shed blocks or rush the passer, Gil Brandt and the guy who does the player profiles at NFL.com (granted, there are many here who think he's a mediot) say that Greenway is an "excellent" blitzer who is effective rushing the passer and can shed blocks effectively although he is inconsistent in doing so at times. Are they wrong or missing something? And compared to the limilitations or shortcomings of the other prospects how does this player stack up given his past production and future potential?

Thanks.

I may be wrong about his pass-rush ability, but last year he wasn't as good as his Junior year when his front 4 wasn't as good, and he struggled taking on blocks
 

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AtlCB said:
Chad seems to be dropping and might be available at #18. Does anyone know anything about Greenway and how he compares to the big 3?

If I am Dallas, or any other team for that matter I stay away from Greenway in the first round.

He is my prediction for BUST of the draft.

I have watched him play a few times, and I was so not impressed. He showed me nothing but the ability to make a couple of tackles and play decent in coverage.

Everytime I saw him rush the passer he got stonewalled. Not a ringing trait for a college player moving to the NFL. For his size I would have expected him to be pretty physical, but I constantly saw him get handled in the run game as well. Honestly I have no idea why so many people are high on him. When I watched him he just did not show up. Now his teammate Hodge showed up everywhere. He caught my eye.

I may eat my words on Greenway someday, but not from what I saw.
 

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boysfanindc said:
I have raised the Greenway question several times myself, not sure it matters though because he will be the second LB taken and will not be there for us.

I hope you are right. I want nothing to do with Greenway.
 

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I don't know guys. You have me very confused with all this LB back and forth. I'm at the point now where I think we should screw all of them and take Anderson, McClover (who USA today compares favorably to Ware and Merriman), Adeyanju, or Darry Tapp in a later round.

:)
 

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I just read this in Peter King's final mock:

12. Cleveland: OLB Chad Greenway, Iowa. This guy never should have been here at this point of the draft. Two scouts told me they liked him better than Hawk. They said he was a surer tackler. One thing in his bio caught my eye. In a Big Ten game against Illinois last fall, Greenway had 20 tackles and two sacks. Whoa. And don't discount the connection between old Bill Belichick buddies Romeo Crennel and Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz. Crennel knows Ferentz develops fundamentally sound players.
 
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