Charles Haley tutoring Demarcus Lawrence

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I haven't even seen him blow by people with speed rush. That's why I am concerned. Usually that's the one move that doesn't need to be taught.

He blew by the OT in the Colts games and would have had a clean shot on the QB but the DT on that side got blocked by the Center and the Guard was free to fall back and cut him off before he got to the QB.

Marinelli does not allow the DEs to just run far up-field and take themselves out of the play 50 times per game in order to get 2 sacks. The DEs for Marinelli generally stop their outside rush once they get to QB depth and then they normally cut back inside. He does this because it allows the DTs to do more stunts and twists without losing contain and the DEs often get some pressure when they cut back inside, but just not sacks.

The concept is more or less would you take 0 sacks and 10 pressures or 2 sacks and 0 pressures?
 

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He blew by the OT in the Colts games and would have had a clean shot on the QB but the DT on that side got blocked by the Center and the Guard was free to fall back and cut him off before he got to the QB.

Marinelli does not allow the DEs to just run far up-field and take themselves out of the play 50 times per game in order to get 2 sacks. The DEs for Marinelli generally stop their outside rush once they get to QB depth and then they normally cut back inside. He does this because it allows the DTs to do more stunts and twists without losing contain and the DEs often get some pressure when they cut back inside, but just not sacks.

The concept is more or less would you take 0 sacks and 10 pressures or 2 sacks and 0 pressures?

It depends - did the opposing QB in the scenario with 10 pressures complete passes on all 10 occasions?

I would take the plays that are a guaranteed win for the defense over potentially empty and skewed statistics.
 

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The percentage of DEs who are able to be productive within their rookie season is extremely low. To my way of thinking, De-Law simply exemplifies that fact. Next season would seem a much more realistic time to allow our expectations to come into play. I'm hoping we draft at least a couple of DEs in 2015 and allow them to compete feverishly for the job in camp next year. Haley may or may not do Lawrence any good but it's surely worth a try.
 

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Nice. I think Lawrence is gonna be a bit like Greg Ellis. He's not the physical freak that Demarcus Ware was, but I'm hoping he'll get decent sack numbers just by having good technique. We'll see though.

I hope so because it didn't seem as if Ware learned any pass rush moves other than the speed rush.
 

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Haley played with an anger and passion that can not be taught. He was just a nasty angry player that exploded on tackles. You get one Haley in a lifetime. I was glad he was on our team for the 3 Super Bowls.
 

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So, D-Law is a bust to 90% of you already, I see?

Welp, that's that. Let's cut him in the offseason, all the experts here haven't "seen anything". Why let rookies coming off injuries develop?
 

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So, D-Law is a bust to 90% of you already, I see?

Welp, that's that. Let's cut him in the offseason, all the experts here haven't "seen anything". Why let rookies coming off injuries develop?

He had no training camp..

he missed the first half of the season recovering?

I think the fact he has gotten on the field at all is miraculous and shows his desire to contribute.

That's a problem?
 
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