Choice getting bigger role

[Fizziksman]

Let me get this straight.

1. People love him.
2. He fumbles once
3. people hate him
4. people despise him
5. Jones and Barber suck
6. people love Choice again.

Strange place.

a lot of people defended him for that fumble claiming that it was more of the coaches fault for putting their players in that kind of position

 

[sago1]

For the #3 RB in the kid, Choice sure hasn't gotten a lot of opportunities. If he's not good enough, then get rid of him. OTOH, it's time to finally show what, if anything he can contribute. Besides most of us believe MBIII best days are behind him. If Choice can show that a combination of he and Felix (if next year Felix gets his body in the shape he was in before when he had some moves/speed) can get the job done to the extent possible with our OL, then drafting a RB in 2011 draft might not be a need.[

 

[dbair1967]

a lot of people defended him for that fumble claiming that it was more of the coaches fault for putting their players in that kind of position

And thats typical of the ignorance in CZ, blame the coaches for a players obvious mistake

Its like fans blaming the coordinator for Romo throwing a ball into triple coverage.

There are some things the coaches have done a very poor job of here. But you'd be hard pressed to find me an example of a turnover that was REALLY the fault of the coaches.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Okay, that makes sense. Would've helped if MacMahon would've mentioned that play before the quote.



"That play" wasn't ever referenced.

Remember we're only posting snippets now.

The link was the title heading...

I snipped alot. This was before the part you were confused about.

The coaches decided to go with a two-back rotation when Felix Jones became the lead back after the bye week, keeping Choice on the sideline. Choice said the only question he asked the coaches about his diminished role was whether it was due to a mistake he made. He was told that it was not, but his fumble returned for a touchdown just before halftime of the season opener sticks with him.

 

[CoCo]

a bunch of you choice haters better get ready to eat crow. when he is successful this weekend, im serving it up to all of you.

Choice haters?

I assume that refers to those who didn't proclaim him the 2nd coming of Emmitt Smith because I don't know that I've read too many folks seriously dissing the guy.

But whatever. I'll be happy to see more of what he can do because the RB spot is totally up for grabs right now.

 

[dbair1967]

I would have liked to have thought a game with more carries by Choice was because coaches and front office had finally seen the obvious (that Barber is basically done) but apparently that isnt the case:

The Cowboys are making plans in case the health of their team gets worse. Tashard Choice said he will get more carries on Sunday night and that's because of the injury to Jones.

Jones by the way went 100% for todays practice.

 

[Everlastingxxx]

And thats typical of the ignorance in CZ, blame the coaches for a players obvious mistake

Its like fans blaming the coordinator for Romo throwing a ball into triple coverage.

There are some things the coaches have done a very poor job of here. But you'd be hard pressed to find me an example of a turnover that was REALLY the fault of the coaches.

Hard pressed? More like impossible. According to you if the coach is not actually playing on the field they can not share in any of the blame. Ridiculous claim btw. Things are not black and white in the real world.

 

[5Stars]

He should be getting all of Barber's carries, but I think people who believe he is suddenly going to ignite a totally lousy run game are going to be disappointed.

Its the blocking people.

QFT.

I hope the team practiced runing, and running and running all week long to find out just who can run block.

But, as usual, they will find a package that will work. On a run play, you will see the guys that are good at it (who that is, I have no clue) come in the game and the play will be a run...a good one! The Cowboys will do it again....BINGO, 12 yard gain!

Then, because of "tendencies" that these coaches seem to show...when a pass is called, in come some other package for pass protection.

After a few series of this nonsense, the opposing team will notice this and adjust to the "tendency". The run group will come in and the runner will get stuffed because the other team saw who came in. Then the pass blockers will come in and the other team will blitz the hell out of Kitna.

After the game is over...another loss, the coach will come on and say the team got all the fundamental right, but something else went wrong and we don't know how to fix it.

I love watching a dog chase it's own tail. And this dog can't even find it's tail...!

 

[Gadfly22]

I like Choice and want to see him get more carries. But unless he can run through a keyhole, I doubt he looks any better than MBIII or Felix. The O-line is just not opening much space for the RBs.

 

[Sarge]

Whattya know - someones actually excited about playing football this week. I hope TC does well. It's refreshing.

 

[5Stars]

a lot of people defended him for that fumble claiming that it was more of the coaches fault for putting their players in that kind of position

Well, Romo needs to take a little of that blame...he saw nothing downfield, time was almost over anyway, just throw the ball away and live for another half of football.

I'm not sure where the fault lies, but I don't think Choice should get the total blame.

 

[thechosen1n2]

nope. a minority of us have been on the Choice bandwagon for 2+ years.

we know who we are. we will expose all the fakes.

I for one have always said he is the most complete back we have as far as a 20 plus back, but he is not as "dynamic" as the other two should be.

 

[dbair1967]

Hard pressed? More like impossible. According to you if the coach is not actually playing on the field they can not share in any of the blame. Ridiculous claim btw. Things are not black and white in the real world.

Again, coaches dont force Romo to throw the ball into coverage, plays have primary targets, but only really stupid QB's (ie like a Quincy Carter) are put into plays where they read only part of the field or only have one or two receivers to throw to. Bad coaching doesnt lead to fumbles in the NFL, sure you can find one example of a guy like Tiki Barber where somebody "figured something out" and helped him eliminate fumbling, but the play calls or game plans dont make a guy fumble the ball.

These are PLAYER mistakes, period.

 

[Stautner]

Well, Romo needs to take a little of that blame...he saw nothing downfield, time was almost over anyway, just throw the ball away and live for another half of football.

I'm not sure where the fault lies, but I don't think Choice should get the total blame.

There is plenty of blame to go around for that fumble. Choice certainly isn't blameless, but you are right about Romo. It was a stupid throw and he should have known better.

 

[LucaBrasi]

I'm not a big Choice fan but I love his enthusiasm and love the fact that they are getting someone fresh in there. The losers I watched the last 2 games can use some new blood and I think he can inject some life in the team.

 

[5Stars]

There is plenty of blame to go around for that fumble. Choice certainly isn't blameless, but you are right about Romo. It was a stupid throw and he should have known better.

I can't remember how much time was left...but, it does fall on the coach for not just telling Romo to take a knee. That would eliminate Romo and Choice from the mistake that was made. They might have even won the game?



So see, I can't even make up my own mind...everything about this team leaves me scratching my head!


:laugh2:

 

[CF74]

Championship!!!

 

[28 Joker]

I would have liked to have thought a game with more carries by Choice was because coaches and front office had finally seen the obvious (that Barber is basically done) but apparently that isnt the case:



Jones by the way went 100% for todays practice.

It will take getting rid of this coaching staff (Garrett, Phillips, and Peete) in order to cut Barber. The next head coach will make this move with ease, imso. It will be a layup. You simply can't construct your roster recklessly and expect it not to come back to bite you, by paying Barber and Williams a combined $ 20.7 million dollars in 2010. Those resources could have been used in other areas of the team, and the draft picks were lost.

Choice deserves Barber's carries (IMO) and giving Barber a $ 4 million dollar roster bonus after his 8 carry, 14 yard playoff performance was dubious at best. It was plain not smart, and there was plenty of film on Barber, too. The coaches/organization miscast him or over rated Barber and the organization paid him more than Frank Gore and ran him into the ground. Bill Parcells knew what Barber really was and used him accordingly. Jerry Jones had leverage on Barber when he drafted Jones and Choice, but he didn't use it. Moreover, Felix Jones rushed 79 times for 475 yards and 2 TDs during his last 6 games of 2009 and was the third leading rusher in the playoffs.

I guess the organization didn't look at the second half of the 2007 Divisional Game where Barber didn't look like the same guy in the second half. It's hard for me to believe that Jason Garrett's hands are clean in regards to Barber's ridiculous contract and the Roy Williams fiasco of a trade. Where was the voice of reason? Garrett and Peete have basically run Barber into the ground. He probably will not be around much longer in the NFL.

Cutting Barber before the 2010 season was a layup, but the organization clanked it off the rim. Then, they didn't trade him and get some type of compensation. That pick appears to be a top of the round pick, now. This team needs players....

You are right. It is the horrendous blocking. Broaddus would replace Gurode and Davis first, and you know how bad Colombo is at this point in his career. Colombo should have been replaced before the season. Kosier is set to walk and has been hurt two of the past three years. When he gets hurt, he stays hurt. Playing him at center appears to be a bad mistake. That is where he was hurt in camp.

Felix Jones' first double digit carry game this year came with Kyle Kosier in the lineup. Jones rushed for 109 yards on only 15 carries and totaled 126 total yards of offense against a good Titans rush defense. Furthermore, there wasn't much running room in that game for Jones. Jones had a 34 yard run in that game, and he had just a little crease to break free. You saw him get outside and use his great speed.

The second level blocking on this team is atrocious, and Gurode, Davis, and Colombo loose at the point of attack consistently. Therefore, the linebackers just sit in the hole and tee off. Davis is a whiff master who can't get a push in the run game. Colombo is a turn style who can't get a push in the run game or move anymore.

Kosier returns this week, so we will see if it gets better.

Choice gets a good week to play if he plays, because running left is your best chance to succeed. That is where Free and Kosier live.

 

[dbair1967]

Felix Jones' first double digit carry game this year came with Kyle Kosier in the lineup. Jones rushed for 109 yards on only 15 carries and totaled 126 total yards of offense against a good Titans rush defense. Furthermore, there wasn't much running room in that game for Jones. Jones had a 34 yard run in that game, and he had just a little crease to break free. You saw him get outside and use his great speed.

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I think all these people clamoring for Choice over Barber need to remember the above. That was an outstanding game against a solid Tennessee's D, which while poor vs the pass has been pretty stout vs the run.

Jones has the most yds rushing by any RB vs Tenn this yr (and the only 100 yd game). They've played against McFadden, Jones-Drew, Mendenhall as well.

 

[Stautner]

I think all these people clamoring for Choice over Barber need to remember the above. That was an outstanding game against a solid Tennessee's D, which while poor vs the pass has been pretty stout vs the run.

Jones has the most yds rushing by any RB vs Tenn this yr (and the only 100 yd game). They've played against McFadden, Jones-Drew, Mendenhall as well.

What does telling us about Felix's stats against the Titans have to do with people clamoring for Choice over Barber?