Chris Burke: Big Board 3.0: Quarterbacks trending down as 2017 NFL draft approaches

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  MYLES GARRETT, EDGE
  JUNIOR, TEXAS A&M
  In what looks to be a wide-open draft, Garrett getting grabbed by pick three (at the absolute latest) is almost gospel. He’s not a carbon-copy player, but Garrett could impact a defense next season the way that Joey Bosa did once he got on the field for the Chargers.
  
  
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  JONATHAN ALLEN, DT
  SENIOR, ALABAMA
  This is a good spot to note that us listing a prospect as a "DT" is merely a positional designation, not at attempt to pigeonhole that player’s skill set. In Allen’s case, he may make the most sense as a penetrating 4–3 DT, but he also has the power to play 3–4 DE and the quickness to step out as a 4–3 edge at times.
  
  
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  REUBEN FOSTER, LB
  SENIOR, ALABAMA
  There was a drive early in the national championship in which Foster was caught out of position multiple times. He shook it off and made play after play against Clemson. Obviously, Alabama came up short, but the title game should ensure there’s no one left on the fence about Foster. He’s an NFL-ready star.
  
  
  
  
  COLLEGE FOOTBALL
  Roundup: List of underclassmen who have declared for NFL draft
  
  
  
  
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  DALVIN COOK, RB
  JUNIOR, FLORIDA STATE
  Cook accounted for 5,399 yards from scrimmage in his Florida State career—he obviously can make defenders miss in the open field. What he doesn’t get enough credit for, though, is his ability to absorb contact and keep moving.
  
  
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  JAMAL ADAMS, S
  JUNIOR, LSU
  Bleacher Report draft guru Matt Miller recently mentioned Sean Taylor and Eric Berry as possible comps for Adams, so...we’re potentially in rarefied air here. Adams’s versatility is a clear plus, but what helps set him apart is how quickly he reads and reacts to plays. It’s not an accident that he is constantly near the football.
  
  
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  DEREK BARNETT, DE
  JUNIOR, TENNESSEE
  No matter the edge prospect, the same questions always arise: Can he drop in coverage? Can he be a stand-up rusher? Forget about it with Barnett. There’s no need to complicate what he is, which is a dominant, hand-in-dirt presence. The career sack total (32.0 in three years) is impressive, but he uses his hands and positioning to stay active vs. the run, too.
  
  
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  QUINCY WILSON, CB
  JUNIOR, FLORIDA
  There will be a lot of discussion on the differing opinions of this class’s quarterbacks. Just looking around the draft-analysis landscape, a similar variance appears to be emerging at CB. It’s shaping up as a great cornerback class, with upwards of 10 guys with Round 1 talent. Give me Wilson up top. He has the size and technique to be a lock-down NFL defender.

http://www.si.com/nfl/2017/01/18/nf...-prospects-rankings-myles-garrett-dalvin-cook

 

[Hailmary]

TACO CHARLTON, DE
SENIOR, MICHIGAN
An effective three-down defender for Michigan, it’s the pass rush that has Charlton rising. He sets up OTs with speed, then can dip and bend around them.

The more I read and hear about him, the more I hear about what great bend he has for a big guy. I thought for a while that he was strictly a LDE, but now think he can easily play the right side.

 

[theogt]

DEREK BARNETT, DE
JUNIOR, TENNESSEE
No matter the edge prospect, the same questions always arise: Can he drop in coverage? Can he be a stand-up rusher? Forget about it with Barnett. There’s no need to complicate what he is, which is a dominant, hand-in-dirt presence. The career sack total (32.0 in three years) is impressive, but he uses his hands and positioning to stay active vs. the run, too

What a weird thing for the to say about Barnett considering he spent a ton of time as a stand-up rusher AND dropping into coverage.

 

[theogt]

The more I read and hear about him, the more I hear about what great bend he has for a big guy. I thought for a while that he was strictly a LDE, but now think he can easily play the right side.

He's extremely fast and looks somewhat lean for someone that is listed at 270+. He may come in more like 260-265 at the Combine. If he's available at our pick, it's a no brainer. He played both LDE and RDE in college. I'm not sure he'll be available at our pick though -- he'll likely put up big numbers at the Combine and skyrocket up to a top 15-20 pick.

 

[Hailmary]

He's extremely fast and looks somewhat lean for someone that is listed at 270+. He may come in more like 260-265 at the Combine. If he's available at our pick, it's a no brainer. He played both LDE and RDE in college. I'm not sure he'll be available at our pick though -- he'll likely put up big numbers at the Combine and skyrocket up to a top 15-20 pick.

Yea, I'm kinda hoping that he under performs a bit at the combine and a couple of workout warriors shoot up the draft board.

 

[RamziD]

I'd take any of #28-31

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I'm sticking with my comp; Taco Charlton ~ a fully fingered JPP.

 

[Sydla]

Charlton would be a solid pick at 28 although I am hoping for a surprise slide...... Maybe a guy like the CB from UW or Peppers or Hooker or Barnett.

 

[manster4ever]

He's extremely fast and looks somewhat lean for someone that is listed at 270+. He may come in more like 260-265 at the Combine. If he's available at our pick, it's a no brainer. He played both LDE and RDE in college. I'm not sure he'll be available at our pick though -- he'll likely put up big numbers at the Combine and skyrocket up to a top 15-20 pick.

Yep...he's already being project in the 12-15 range and that's before the draft. TC won't be there for us.

 

[manster4ever]

Charlton would be a solid pick at 28 although I am hoping for a surprise slide...... Maybe a guy like the CB from UW or Peppers or Hooker or Barnett.

HELL no on Peppers. Most overrated prospect in at least a decade. Guy had ONE INT in 3 years of CFB. He is a great ST's guy: instant upgrade as a kick and punt returner but at 28 with our defensive needs? No way.

http://draftwire.usatoday.com/2016/11/23/is-michigans-jabrill-peppers-overrated/

 

[manster4ever]

I'm sticking with my comp; Taco Charlton ~ a fully fingered JPP.

I see a lot of you guys are starting to come around on this guy. ( I mentioned him about 5 days ago in the thread I started on DE's in the draft) Jeremiah has been big on him all season. We'd have to be prepared to move up about 15 spots to get him. I'm quite sure that would be too rich for the front office's blood, but we'll see.

 

[theogt]

Yea, I'm kinda hoping that he under performs a bit at the combine and a couple of workout warriors shoot up the draft board.

Could be. I also like Ryan Anderson. Extremely fast, decent size and plays extremely smart. Looks very polished. He's projected as a middle 2nd rounder, I think, but I'd bet he tears it up at the combine and jumps to the late first round.

 

[gmoney112]

The more I read and hear about him, the more I hear about what great bend he has for a big guy. I thought for a while that he was strictly a LDE, but now think he can easily play the right side.

I mentioned this before, but Greg Jackson, our safety coach, coached the DB's at Michigan in 2015. We'll get some info on him, and may get some more insight than other clubs will be able from his connects at UM.

Combine will be important, and haven't watched him too much, but given what I've read and coming out of a Harbaugh program, I'm guessing the guy is probably about as NFL ready as you'll get for a DL in the late first.

 

[Avery]

Great secondary draft this year. Not so much OT.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I see a lot of you guys are starting to come around on this guy. ( I mentioned him about 5 days ago in the thread I started on DE's in the draft) Jeremiah has been big on him all season. We'd have to be prepared to move up about 15 spots to get him. I'm quite sure that would be too rich for the front office's blood, but we'll see.

Some folks have been up on Charlton. I had a post advocating for him about a 5-6 weeks ago.

 

[Sydla]

HELL no on Peppers. Most overrated prospect in at least a decade. Guy had ONE INT in 3 years of CFB. He is a great ST's guy: instant upgrade as a kick and punt returner but at 28 with our defensive needs? No way.

http://draftwire.usatoday.com/2016/11/23/is-michigans-jabrill-peppers-overrated/

LOL. Well people said the exact same thing about Ramsey and he just got named a first team all rookie and played well for Jacksonville.

Also note that Michigan used Peppers in a lot of ways including playing LB, etc. So the fact he has one interception in 3 years is largely meaningless to me.

I think he'd be a stud SS for us alongside Jones.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

LOL. Well people said the exact same thing about Ramsey and he just got named a first team all rookie and played well for Jacksonville.

Also note that Michigan used Peppers in a lot of ways including playing LB, etc. So the fact he has one interception in 3 years is largely meaningless to me.

I think he'd be a stud SS for us alongside Jones.

He was used almost primarily at LB, but folks still expect him to rack up 5 interceptions and 15 PBUs a season apparently.

 

[Sydla]

He was used almost primarily at LB, but folks still expect him to rack up 5 interceptions and 15 PBUs a season apparently.

I was thinking 5 interceptions, 15 PBUs a game.