Chris Johnson = Marion Barber w/ more home-run speed

[DaBoys4Life]

What about Johnson's blocking and blitz pick up, Fuzzy?

If your going to knock the kid because of his blocking and blitz pick something that can be taught thats a shame. He isn't a weak kid like Felix Jones......

IDK bout this thread tittle seems as if the MB3 fan boys will cause an uprising

 

[Sarge]

He isn't a weak kid unlike Felix Jones...

Actually Felix Jones IS weak.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Actually Felix Jones IS weak.

ah thanks for the fix i messed up

 

[Biggems]

If your going to knock the kid because of his blocking and blitz pick something that can be taught thats a shame. He isn't a weak kid like Felix Jones......

IDK bout this thread tittle seems as if the MB3 fan boys will cause an uprising

i dont see him knocking CJ........i see him asking a legit question. Romo is our #1 asset on offense. We need a RB that can produce with the ball....but also keep defenders off Romo when not having the ball. I also asked the question about CJ and his blocking.

Charles is an adequate blocker. I have seen him make some nice blocks and I have also seen him whiff on some blocks. But the fact that he has done a solid job at times leaves me hopeful that with some refining of technique he can keep Romo from getting killed.

It is rare to have a RB be as good a pass blocker as Emmitt.....but I want to get someone who can keep Romo looking like a pretty boy for the next 10 years, whenever that blitzer breaks through the line.

 

[Chuck 54]

Chris Johnson is much more physical than people give him credit for. He runs tough between the tackles, has the vision and cutting ability to find holes, has the strength and balance to break tackles and has more than enough burst to break through the line. Heck his stiff arm is pretty good from what I have seen as well.

Add to that his soft hands and route running ability and the guy is a phenomenal back.

If all you think he has is 4.24 speed then you don't know what youre talking about.

I like Ray Rice too and i would be happy as a clam to see either one wear the star this year.

Wow, Fuzzy...you need to talk to the draft publishers and set them straight, because I haven't found a publication or writeup on him yet that even hints that he's a tough runner...they say he runs upright and never moves the pile...most I've read say he will probably be a better receiver than runner.

 

[This is Our Year]

I'm a huge Ray Rice fan best vision of any RB in this class.

 

[dbair1967]

Actually Felix Jones IS weak.

I think the 8 rep on the bench press thing was proven as untrue, it was another player.

Again, I dont care much about what a RB can bench, it has nothing to to with running ability, pure speed,quick feet, vision or ability to catch the football

Last time I checked thats what you want RB's to do first...

unless of course you are a memeber of the Chan Gailey dunce club of talent judging "we want WR's that can run block first"

David

 

[This is Our Year]

I think the 8 rep on the bench press thing was proven as untrue, it was another player.

Again, I dont care much about what a RB can bench, it has nothing to to with running ability, pure speed,quick feet, vision or ability to catch the football

Last time I checked thats what you want RB's to do first...

unless of course you are a memeber of the Chan Gailey dunce club of talent judging "we want WR's that can run block first"

David

Yes that's correct, Felix Jones didn't do the bench press at the combine.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Wow, Fuzzy...you need to talk to the draft publishers and set them straight, because I haven't found a publication or writeup on him yet that even hints that he's a tough runner...they say he runs upright and never moves the pile...most I've read say he will probably be a better receiver than runner.

Read the thread. I said that he isn't afraid to run between the tackles and if there is a crease he can break arm tackles and burst through the line. I also said he did not like to put his helmet down and try to plow through a defender.

Like I said, hes a lot tougher than he is given credit for but its not like I am saying hes AP or MB3 either.

I am sorry I like the guy and I would love to see him or Rice or Smith or Stewart or Mendenhall or a litany of others as Cowboys.

I refuse to have a pet cat and I refuse to try and bash other good players cause I have a pet cat.

 

[5mics]

In all reality, I could live with Johnson at #28. I think he'd be a good receiver out of the backfield and could be utilized like Reggie Bush. To compare him to a Pro Bowler like MB3 without playing a single game is a bit rushed, however.

I'll take Dmac, Mendenhall and Stewart over him though.

I'd also take Jamaal Charles over CJ.....

 

[StarHead69]

The closer we get to draft day, the more I am getting convinced that neither CJ, F. Jones ,or J. Charles will last until our 2nd round pick. All three have return skills that can immediately pay dividends, but none are deemed capable of being a full-time starter. I think all three go very early in the 2nd. As much as we could use one of these guys, I wouldn't use a first on them.
First round picks are for eventual "Full-Time" STARTERS. The backs that are "worth" a #22 or #28 are Mendenhall and Stewart respectively.

 

[Sarge]

ah thanks for the fix i messed up

Just messin'.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Wow, Fuzzy...you need to talk to the draft publishers and set them straight, because I haven't found a publication or writeup on him yet that even hints that he's a tough runner...they say he runs upright and never moves the pile...most I've read say he will probably be a better receiver than runner.

from the guys Fuzzy loves to hate NFLDraftScout

Inside: Durability might be a concern for Johnson, who lacks ideal size but shows the power, leg drive and desire to run between the tackles. Needs to add some bulk

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Read the thread. I said that he isn't afraid to run between the tackles and if there is a crease he can break arm tackles and burst through the line. I also said he did not like to put his helmet down and try to plow through a defender.

Like I said, hes a lot tougher than he is given credit for but its not like I am saying hes AP or MB3 either.

I am sorry I like the guy and I would love to see him or Rice or Smith or Stewart or Mendenhall or a litany of others as Cowboys.

I refuse to have a pet cat and I refuse to try and bash other good players cause I have a pet cat.

that's what this basically boils down to, ignorance and playing favorites

 

[theogt]

that's what this basically boils down to, ignorance and playing favorites

I don't think you have to like every back in this draft in order to not be 'ignorant' or 'playing favorites.' Chances are, some of these backs won't succeed in the NFL. Hell, chances are most of these backs won't succeed. If you can't make a reasonable estimation as to which ones you think will and won't succeed, then what's the point of discussing it?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

from the guys Fuzzy loves to hate NFLDraftScout

Inside: Durability might be a concern for Johnson, who lacks ideal size but shows the power, leg drive and desire to run between the tackles. Needs to add some bulk

I do not hate them but there is no question that they cherry pick statistics. The webmaster told me that they intentionally left out a 4.90 40 time of Owen Schmitt because 'many scouts do this.'

When i asked him whether or not a scout reported the 4.90 40 he said yes. It was such an obvious hack job and between that and what we saw with their hack job on Stanback i think its safe to say that you need to take any of their 'stats' with a grain of salt.

Funny thing is they reported to NFL.com that Schmitt runs a 4.57 which was obviously garbage. he ran a 4.75 at the combine which is right where I had him pegged. Just a .2 whoopsie because of there misrepresentations.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I don't think you have to like every back in this draft in order to not be 'ignorant' or 'playing favorites.' Chances are, some of these backs won't succeed in the NFL. Hell, chances are most of these backs won't succeed. If you can't make a reasonable estimation as to which ones you think will and won't succeed, then what's the point of discussing it?

the ignorant part is people claiming that CJ is a weak runner, because he's fast and likes to bounce runs outside...like most backs tend to do

the playing favorites part is how people are turned off by well-liked prospects that are not their own

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The closer we get to draft day, the more I am getting convinced that neither CJ, F. Jones ,or J. Charles will last until our 2nd round pick. All three have return skills that can immediately pay dividends, but none are deemed capable of being a full-time starter. I think all three go very early in the 2nd. As much as we could use one of these guys, I wouldn't use a first on them.
First round picks are for eventual "Full-Time" STARTERS. The backs that are "worth" a #22 or #28 are Mendenhall and Stewart respectively.

Charles and CJ averaged right around 20 carries a game last season. That is carrying the load. The only one who has not done it is Felix and that is because he was behind the best back in the country.

Mendenhall is not going to drop past 15 and we do have a shot at Stewart. I would love to see Jon in a Cowboys uniform.

 

[theogt]

I do not hate them but there is no question that they cherry pick statistics. The webmaster told me that they intentionally left out a 4.90 40 time of Owen Schmitt because 'many scouts do this.'

When i asked him whether or not a scout reported the 4.90 40 he said yes. It was such an obvious hack job and between that and what we saw with their hack job on Stanback i think its safe to say that you need to take any of their 'stats' with a grain of salt.

Funny thing is they reported to NFL.com that Schmitt runs a 4.57 which was obviously garbage. he ran a 4.75 at the combine which is right where I had him pegged. Just a .2 whoopsie because of there misrepresentations.

Actually, they don't report him as a 4.57, they report him as a 4.73, and no you had him pegged in the 4.8s.

 

[theogt]

the ignorant part is people claiming that CJ is a weak runner, because he's fast and likes to bounce runs outside...like most backs tend to do

the playing favorites part is how people are turned off by well-liked prospects that are not their own

He's obviously not a "weak runner" and I haven't seen anyone claim that. But you don't really see him run up the middle much at all, which really should give you hesitation as to whether he as the ability to do it in the NFL. It doesn't mean he can't, but it certainly ups the risk level a bit, which drops his value. His balance and cutting ability does seem pretty poor, though. That's not really up for debate. The question is, can his speed and "power" make up for that.